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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Remove someone from hospital?

69 replies

hospitalPR · 29/03/2023 16:23

AIBU to ask police to remove someone who doesn't have PR (of admitted and critically ill DC) from hospital situation?

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kittensinthekitchen · 29/03/2023 17:50

BTW am sorry about your child/grandchild/sibling/neighbour/friend.

I hope they make a full, fast recovery

lunar1 · 29/03/2023 17:57

I've had people removed from my ward many time, sometimes just by asking, sometimes security or police, once a couple of riot vans.

Your post is too cryptic to be able to offer advice though. I hope your DC is doing ok.

RafaistheKingofClay · 29/03/2023 17:58

HairyKitty · 29/03/2023 17:14

Surely she has no more right to be present and listening to your child’s medical information than a stranger from on the street?
I would play it that way with the hospital and make it clear that from now on there are no exceptions and that you will report the staff personally and the ward the first time it happens again, and make sure you actually do.

This is where it will become difficult if one parent gives permission. The issue here is for the parents to sort out. The staff aren’t really in a position to pick one side or another.

If the parents can’t agree it may need a court order.

GoodChat · 29/03/2023 18:01

Are you the child's mother? As you said you're not the father? So your mom won't leave?

I'd tell her if she doesn't go she'll never see the child again.

Mumof1andacat · 29/03/2023 18:04

Ward staff can even ask a person with parental responsibility to leave the ward should there be aggression (physical or verbal) towards staff patients and other visitors/relatives. If the parents don't want her there, ward staff if asked can ask her to leave. Hospital security can also be called.

Foreversearch · 29/03/2023 18:14

@hospitalPR whilst not a total solution, you maybe able to invoke patient confidentiality under GDPR. In simple terms GDPR is about processing data i.e. updating you and ExH on your DCs condition. DGM does not have PR so unless you or ExH give parental consent the hospital staff are unlawfully processing data when she muscles into conversations.

This approach is likely to bring things to a head. So you and ExH need to be United, remain calm and insist she is excluded from conversations.

The only other option is to ask PALS if they can intervene and help you by barring her from the ward.

Foreversearch · 29/03/2023 18:15

@hospitalPR meant to say, sorry you are having to deal with DGMs unreasonable behaviour whilst your child is so poorly.

JenniferAllisonPhillipaSue · 29/03/2023 18:32

The sick child could have four, maybe even more, grandmothers. I'm suspecting this is one grandmother objecting to another grandmother's involvement.

nomoremerlot · 29/03/2023 18:33

@TomatoSandwiches I see, sorry missed that with the cryptic posts.

You could well be right!

leaderofthelittles · 29/03/2023 18:52

Are you with the Dad and the mum wants the DGM there?

pncr · 29/03/2023 19:04

If you're the second wife or partner if the dad, and the grandmother is the maternal grandmother - she has as much right to be there as you do.

Any GDPR action will fail as the parent who is related to her presumably wants her there?

Unfortunately unless she causes a scene and in a circumstance where one parent has authorised her to be there, it will be very difficult to remove her.

Bunnyhascovidnoteggs · 29/03/2023 19:08

Has anyone asked the dc if they want dgm there?

GoodChat · 29/03/2023 19:10

Ask her to go to the canteen and get you a coffee then when she's gone ask for no visitors to be allowed on the ward, only the parents.

Sashimiandhisthunderpaws · 29/03/2023 19:16

I'm assuming the ex-wife and her mother, husband and new wife/partner (OP). Does the ex-MIL have grounds for a ex-parte non-molestation order? I assume that's what you're referring to?

elliejjtiny · 29/03/2023 19:29

I am surprised she is allowed in. At my local hospital it is just one parent/carer per child unless exceptional circumstances

RafaistheKingofClay · 30/03/2023 10:56

Given the only thing we know from the cryptic messages is the child is critically I’ll, this may well be an exceptional circumstance.

Redebs · 30/03/2023 11:01

Has the grandmother been providing a lot of the care for the child?
If so, regardless of legal PR, it would be reasonable for her to be there.

WandaWonder · 30/03/2023 11:11

Why are you talking in code?

And who are you in all this?

Odd user name is this is genuine

hospitalPR · 30/03/2023 13:32

Namora · 29/03/2023 16:51

If the GM is interfering with the patient's care they can be required to leave and ejected by police for causing a nuisance to NHS staff, under sections 119 and 120 of the criminal justice act 2008. There is also the possibility of harassment/alarm/distress being committed, contrary to the public order act.

I missed this yesterday. Thank you.

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