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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Remove someone from hospital?

69 replies

hospitalPR · 29/03/2023 16:23

AIBU to ask police to remove someone who doesn't have PR (of admitted and critically ill DC) from hospital situation?

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hospitalPR · 29/03/2023 16:46

amylou8 · 29/03/2023 16:40

I would imagine that if one of the parents wants her to be present, then unless she's actually causing a disturbance, you'll have a job getting rid of her.

Thank you this is helpful but also a massive shame.

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MayThe4th · 29/03/2023 16:50

I have no idea why people insist on writing such cryptic posts. However:

It’s unreasonable to expect the police to get involved when there are presumably adults present who are the offspring of this woman who have the ability to tell her to leave.

If they’re not doing so then I’d hazard a guess that one of the parents actually wants them there for support and that it’s the other parent who is objecting.

Bunnyhascovidnoteggs · 29/03/2023 16:50

Maybe speak to the police non emergency number.. That poor dc needs less stressed dps right now.

Namora · 29/03/2023 16:51

If the GM is interfering with the patient's care they can be required to leave and ejected by police for causing a nuisance to NHS staff, under sections 119 and 120 of the criminal justice act 2008. There is also the possibility of harassment/alarm/distress being committed, contrary to the public order act.

Bunnyhascovidnoteggs · 29/03/2023 16:51

Nobody with a sick dc should be pacifying a twatty adult.

TomatoSandwiches · 29/03/2023 16:53

I would recommend the child's DP to contact the police and a solicitor, threatening a Non usually means they probably have the ball rolling already.

x2boys · 29/03/2023 16:54

If the child is critically ill,don't the staff monitor who visit,s them?
only speaking from experience,my son recently spent three weeks on the critical care unit, the staff had to let visitors ,people couldn't just come in the ward as they p!eased .

LonginesPrime · 29/03/2023 16:58

This is the situation - however I am neither of the parties you mention.

So you're not one of the child's parents and presumably you're not staff - I'm not sure how you're actually related to this situation but if the staff and parents are fine with this person being there and it's not affecting you directly, it sounds like it's none of your business.

Obviously, if you're another patient (or a relative of one) and they're upsetting you, then speak to staff and explain that. But the focus on PR seems a bit odd if you're not actually involved.

CrotchetyQuaver · 29/03/2023 17:00

Assuming you are one of the parents, why are you not telling the grandmother to butt out of your conversations with the staff regarding your child and making it expressly clear that they are not t

CrotchetyQuaver · 29/03/2023 17:02

Gah
Not to discuss details of the case/accept any decisions from her, it's both parents only to make those decisions?

Avarua2 · 29/03/2023 17:06

" Sheila, butt out! This is for me and David to decide. In fact, can you step out for twenty minutes while we discuss this." In a firm voice, standing up, front of the staff.

TheShellBeach · 29/03/2023 17:07

I'm assuming you're the second wife or husband of one of the sick child's parents.

ImSweetEnoughDarlin · 29/03/2023 17:10

hospitalPR · 29/03/2023 16:26

Hospital staff won't get involved. It's grandmother. Both (separated) parents are available but MGM is causing absolute mayhem between the parents, and refusing to leave.

So your MIL then?

hospitalPR · 29/03/2023 17:11

Honestly appreciate all the help and comments. If there's no actual grounds for the removal, until a scene is caused, we shall simply have to wait.

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HairyKitty · 29/03/2023 17:14

Surely she has no more right to be present and listening to your child’s medical information than a stranger from on the street?
I would play it that way with the hospital and make it clear that from now on there are no exceptions and that you will report the staff personally and the ward the first time it happens again, and make sure you actually do.

TomatoSandwiches · 29/03/2023 17:14

If the child of DGM is truly incompetent you could ask Social services to perform an MCA, if deemed not fit then they would not be able to make decisions or certain ones for the ill child.
Or you could go via DGMs suggestion and apply for your own NMO.

Ionlydrinkondaysendinginy · 29/03/2023 17:23

Your posts make no sense, your not saying who you are. I'm also struggling how an unwanted person got onto the children's ward. If your not the child's parent it's up to them to tell her If they want her to leave. If she kicks off the staff will call security and if she doesn't leave with security then the security will call the police and she will be arrested.

NoProbLlamaa · 29/03/2023 17:28

I disagree with many comments - if there was no grounds for removal then any old person could waltz around the hospital, getting involved in anything!

She needs to be clearly asked to leave, and if she refuses the parents need to speak to the Ward Manager and request security remove her.

nomoremerlot · 29/03/2023 17:28

Ionlydrinkondaysendinginy · 29/03/2023 17:23

Your posts make no sense, your not saying who you are. I'm also struggling how an unwanted person got onto the children's ward. If your not the child's parent it's up to them to tell her If they want her to leave. If she kicks off the staff will call security and if she doesn't leave with security then the security will call the police and she will be arrested.

I'm struggling to understand the post and the fact that more than two people are allowed to visit.

Ionlydrinkondaysendinginy · 29/03/2023 17:32

nomoremerlot · 29/03/2023 17:28

I'm struggling to understand the post and the fact that more than two people are allowed to visit.

Exactly hospitals very rarely allow more then 2 visitors, especially since covid. Ours certainly doesn't. Also if their is someone specific you don't want coming you tell the staff and they don't let them past the door.

TomatoSandwiches · 29/03/2023 17:34

Ionlydrinkondaysendinginy · 29/03/2023 17:32

Exactly hospitals very rarely allow more then 2 visitors, especially since covid. Ours certainly doesn't. Also if their is someone specific you don't want coming you tell the staff and they don't let them past the door.

It will most likely be that one parent has requested their mother to support them in the hospital dealings and the other parent not wanting the ex GMIL involved.

Soontobe60 · 29/03/2023 17:35

FFS stop being so cryptic and tell us who’s who!

titchy · 29/03/2023 17:37

I'm guessing OP is second wife and her dh and his ex have the child in hospital, with his ex-MIL butting in, but ex-wife too worried about their dc to tell her mother to bog off.

Does the ex-wife really not want her mum there though, or is it your dh that doesn't want his ex-MIL?

ImSweetEnoughDarlin · 29/03/2023 17:47

What is the point in being so secret squirrel? It's just stupid.

kittensinthekitchen · 29/03/2023 17:48

I assume one person with parental responsibility has permitted their mother to be present, and the other parent wants to override that?

Why not just bloody say?

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