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Tell me if I am unreasonable or if the Coach was out of line

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Namechangedforasec · 27/03/2023 17:30

I am completely prepared to be told I'm overreacting and that I am the problem but I need to ask for some unbiased perspective.
My son has played on the same team for a few years now and the head coach is amazing - fantastic, cannot say enough good things about him. My problem is with the new assistant coache.
Every year the head coach hosts a spring and summer training exercise to help condition the team, and so my son goes to as many of the practices as he can, though none are compulsory. It's a very easy-going atmosphere and siblings and parents are welcome to join in.
This past weekend we attended the first spring session and it was pretty standard, the same as the other ones. We got to meet some new players and their families. We also got to meet a new assistant coach.
I've never seen this coach before and this was my first time having any contact with him, which isn't too uncommon, however, I do coach spring soccer and cheer through the county and so know most of the repeat coaches.
Anyway, during the training session the assistant coach spent a great deal of his time on the sideline talking to parents and entertaining them with anecdotes of how he was attacked by a shark (showed us the scars - completely unsolicited). I didn't think too much of it, I kinda thought that if I'd survived a shark attack I'd probably tell people about it too... I digress.

So, the assistant coach was having a good time, overall, and seemed likeable, however, the only time he DID leave the sideline was to approach my son and pull him to the side and have private chats with him. I didn't say anything because I have been known to be THAT parent who hovers, and I thought it was maybe just some chitchat about performance and technique, Initially.

This happened at LEAST 6 times over the two hour period. The coach didn't speak to any other player the entire time and never once touched base with the head coach.
Weird, thinking back on it now, considering he spent little time actually watching defense, and had delegated his task management to one of the older players on the team. The only time he had his back turned to the parents was when my son was up for a maneuver, he watched then.

I will add that the head coach has two other assistants who were actively engaging with the coach and players/families. This particular coach just seemed to he hanging around and having a good time. I know he is allowed to coach through the parks and rec division because the head coach told us all at the beginning of practice that he'd managed to acquire a third assistant coach, which was sorely needed this year because most years at least one coach drops out midway though the season.

Anyway, after every session, the team (and anyone else who wants to volunteer) helps pack up all of the exercise and training equipment the head coach brings for the team to use. On this particular afternoon my son ran up to me after practice and was smiling ear to ear saying he was gona go with the new assistant coach to get some frozen yogurt...
I was sitting with my husband and my best friend (her son is also on the team) and I was kind of shocked for a second. I asked if he meant head coach, because that would have been fine, our families know each other well and we socialize and our kids have sleep overs. I initially thought coach had told my son to run and ask me if he could go with them.
He said no, the new coach...
I asked when this all was decided and he said that the assistant coach told him a few times when he had talked to him during practice that if he did really well at practice he'd take him for frozen yogurt after practice. Told him it'd be a lot of fun and that they could get some pizza too, because the pizza place is next door to the yogurt place.
I was fucking speechless. So were my husband and my best friend.
A few minutes after I told my son no, he could not go, the assistant coach made his way over and asked my son if he'd let me know, and my son told him 'they said I can't go', and he stalked off to help load up the head coach's truck.
The assistant coach asked me if it was okay if my son went, they wouldn't be gone long. And he would even bring him back home. Please keep in mind these practices are at public places, the coach could only get my address by asking me or my son, or looking through my file in the parks and rec office...
I told him no, my son would not be going and he would do better in the future to not approach children with whom he has absolutely no rapport, and privately invite them for yogurt and pizza.
Who does that?
He got defensive and said it was a nice gesture is all, that he appreciated my son's hard work.
I was shocked he was defending himself, to be honest.
I want to add a few things.
My son is not a stellar athlete. Not on this planet or any other. He always gives it his best and we always support him because he wants to do well, but it isn't like he's the teams star linebacker. Not saying that the idea that he should be given special incentive is far fetched, but there are just as many other players deserving of special treats on the team, besides my son.
The assistant coach didn't even know my name or my husband's, he never bothered to ask... He spent the time joking and laughing but didn't make any effort to make introductions with the parents...
Another thing, the overwhelming majority of volunteer coaches have children on the team or in the league, that's why they do it. Or they are still coaching after their children have aged out of the league.
This coach, according to himself, doesn't have children. It isn't like he was gona take my son and his OWN child for yogurt and pizza, even that would have made me less wary, to be honest. but no, he was solo. And told my son he would take him to have pizza and yogurt without ever having introduced himself to me or my husband, we don't even know this man... I got the impression he told my son BEFORE asking my permission, or my husband's, hoping that we would feel compelled to let our son go... Does that make sense?
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse. I've given as much pertinent info as i can...
So you tell me, am I unreasonable for feeling like something was off?
I am thinking I'll give the head coach a call this afternoon but I'm not sure. I do not want to start an issue where there is not one, and to even be accused of something inappropriate, for an innocent person, must be devastating, but I can't shake the feeling something was off about the situation.
Is it me? Am I the problem? Am I unreasonable?

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PlateBilledDuckyPerson · 27/03/2023 17:33

The coach sounds odd, full stop.

noeyedeer · 27/03/2023 17:35

YANBU. So many red flags that it's practically a parade.

pncr · 27/03/2023 17:35

The coach has no idea about safeguarding. I would raise this with the head coach.

Are you in the uk?

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 27/03/2023 17:36

Yeah...that sounds like a man to keep your kids well away from

viques · 27/03/2023 17:39

Tell the head coach. It is safeguarding, it is hard to believe that anyone has been accepted as an assistant coach without having several hours of safeguarding training.

Namechangedforasec · 27/03/2023 17:39

Hi, thanks all. No, were in the US. The head coach is a good friend so I think I will talk with him privately. I don't want to raise and alarm but I'm so uncomfortable with this situation.

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Namechangedforasec · 27/03/2023 17:41

We have to get training certifications and he was on the field with the standard issued parks and rec coach's polo we are required to wear to games.

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GaspingGekko · 27/03/2023 17:42

If this is innocent you should raise this with the HC so that he can speak to the AC about safeguarding and appropriate boundaries.

If this is not innocent then you should raise this with the HC so he can keep an eye on him.

As the HC is a good friend I would absolutely have a quiet word.

Hellocatshome · 27/03/2023 17:43

Tell the head coach and reinforce with your son he cant go anywhere with any adult without asking you first and no trusted adult would expect him to.

DDivaStar · 27/03/2023 17:44

Thats just odd. Regardless of his intentions inviting a child to go with him solo on their first meeting is inappropriate. Definitely tell the head coach.

Namechangedforasec · 27/03/2023 17:46

This has been eating at me the entire weekend and I honestly thought I was the one with the issue. Thank you all so much. Am going to call the head coach and talk with him. He is very approachable and understanding.

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CindersAgain · 27/03/2023 17:47

In the U.K. in scouts etc there are rules about not being alone with a child - partly to protect the child, of course but partly to protect the adult, so that no allegations are possible.
Is there not a thing like that in the US?

GoodChat · 27/03/2023 17:47

I think the head coach will take this really seriously. You're doing the right thing.

Crumpetdisappointment · 27/03/2023 17:48

totally right to be uncomfortable.
US must have the same safeguarding
to protect adults as well as children.
he cannot be alone with your child

Whoiscomingtosaveyou · 27/03/2023 17:48

Trust your gut OP. This is not ok.

Namechangedforasec · 27/03/2023 17:49

@CindersAgain the training we receive as volunteer coaches covers appropriate action as far as individual attention to players and impresses upon transparency, which is why I was so shocked he'd disregard protocol and ask my son for yogurt... I was actually pretty stunned.

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Pallisers · 27/03/2023 17:53

I'm in the US and this would set off all sorts of red flags where I am. I'd raise it with the head coach. He would have had to have a background check to take the position but that only reveals if he has been convicted of a crime.

Namechangedforasec · 27/03/2023 17:56

@Pallisers I'm gona talk to the head coach and, not so much ask permission, but let him know I'm going to touch base with the parks and rec director. I've coached for him for several years and with all the training we have and with how structured the protocol for coaches and athletes is, I just can't see how this man got any qualifications at all.

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Namechangedforasec · 27/03/2023 17:58

Ill update after I have some resolution ladies. Thanks so much

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IamnotSethRogan · 27/03/2023 17:59

I mean I don't know if it's different or whatever in the US, like if it's paid position fair enough but whose coaches kids sport unless their kid is on the team?

Nimbostratus100 · 27/03/2023 18:02

yanbu

VickyEadieofThigh · 27/03/2023 18:03

Have read the full thread and note you are going to take action on it.

Just to add: that coach's behaviour is NOT acceptable and he needs some serious safeguarding training. I'm tempted tobsay he needs his hard drive examining, too!

LakeTiticaca · 27/03/2023 18:03

You are definitel NBU. Was he inviting a group of kids or just your son?
In your position I would absolutely not let my child go, and yes definitely talk to the head coach

coconutpie · 27/03/2023 18:08

You are doing the right thing to raise it with the head coach, all sorts of red flags are waving about after reading that.

kimchifix · 27/03/2023 18:09

I don't know what the rules are in your country but I'm in the UK and have done safeguarding training myself, as has my husband who coaches kids in a sport outside of school. This is just a flat No. You cannot do this type of thing for a good reason. As a coach it's as much to protect yourself as the kids but he should definitely know better even if his intentions were truly innocent.

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