To think that a three year jail sentence is unreasonable for the disabled pedestrian who was found guilty of causing the death of a cyclist

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The Sunday Times and The Guardian carried this story earlier this month and again today, as did GB News. Link is below. I just find it unbelievable that so much relevant information about this lady’s disability was either ignored or dismissed by the judge, and that she didn’t have adequate representation at sentencing.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjj6omaqvr9AhWJbcAKHVv9DMkQFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk%2Fhome-news%2Fcyclist-manslaughter-auriol-grey-cambridgeshire-b2294507.html&usg=AOvVaw1yOHhh6F4zfEel6m4EMYpL

Wether she expressed/understood remorse (I very much believe she does because she happily begged remorse for the first time at her trial) is neither here nor there. She wasn’t jailed for being unremorseful. She was jailed for causing someone’s death.

i read the entire times article thinking she was the cyclist 🤨

She didn’t deserve to die for riding in the psvement

have some compassion for the lady who lost her life!!!! Her entire life and the impact on her family

I'm getting the gist that you have some skin in the game OP. Are you a relative of this nasty, bad tempered woman who caused the death of the cyclist? I think it's unreasonable that she only got 3 years, I was hoping it would be longer.

I've very mixed feelings on this case and I doubt that I or anyone else pontificating about it has sufficient knowledge to make a judgement.

A woman died tragically and unnecessarily. She did not cause her own death, nor did the unfortunate woman who hit her. I don't think disability should be a (literal) 'get out of jail free card'. The sentence per se doesn't seem unduly harsh either. Maybe the issue is where Ms Grey serves it, and what provision there will be for her housing when her sentences concludes?

Read about another case today - name escapes me, but a 22 year old man was killed and left dead in a ditch by another 22 year old driving a BMW without insurance. He had also been banned from driving. He left the scene, and the young man's mother was left to find her horrifically injured dead son via tracking on his iPhone. Sentence - 7 years!!! Such a travesty.

She swore at the cyclist, pushed her into the road in front of oncoming traffic and fucked off shopping whilst the cyclist lay dying and gave zero shits about it.
She deserves longer than 3 years IMO.

She deserves longer than 3 years and I hope she will if it goes to trial.

But if she’s genuinely not capable of remorse because of a brain injury no amount of punishment is going to do that is it ?

Re-trial that is

Quite.
It's disgraceful behaviour.
3 years is light.

It's nice when prison makes someone remorseful but it's not a condition of incarceration. Lots of prisoners are never remorseful. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be there.

That’s not the point of prison, FFS

Im another one who thinks you must have skin in the game OP.

She did stay at the scene - even the police acknowledge this.

Where does it say this? In this mysterious article that you can't share? I thought she left.

Yep this. YABU OP.

I don't think she should be in prison at all. Why was the cyclist even on the pavement.

Can we also have a mention of how horrific it is for the woman driving the vehicle that killed Celia. Her life has been turned upside down because of the actions of Grey and she has to live with what happened too.

Utterly shocking that people think ‘we’ll she’s disabled so meh’.

Do people on bikes on pavements deserve to die?

So if your child had been biking on the road and the same thing happened you’d feel the same!

I know! I've killed five people just today who were doing annoying stuff.

I always reverse out my drive without looking too as I live next to a school and I have the right of way.

But there are plenty of people in prison, with brain injuries and incapable of remorse.

What do you suggest we do with them?

It is incredibly unreasonable that she only got 3 years, having seen the footage this woman has got off lightly for what she did, her deliberate actions caused the other woman's death. Being disabled does not mean you aren't accountable for your actions.

It’s a shared path. And has now been better signed to show this.

Another goady thread!! When the op can’t look at all viewpoints and is clearly set on her way of thinking and all other views that disagree with hers are wrong!! Ridiculous now

Judge Sean Enright, sentencing Grey to three years in prison, said Grey has no mental disorder or learning difficulties and claimed the pavement was 2.4 metres wide at the relevant point, describing it as a “shared path on the ring road”. He added “these actions are not explained by disability

For those claiming it wasn’t a shared path.

He also is an experienced judge who is privy to far more information about Grey than we do.

Nope. Not a relative, no connection whatsoever. And as I’ve said previously, my problem is not with the sentence, it’s the perception that due process hasn’t been properly served, and if this lady really does have the level of mental impairment claimed by her family - and there is evidence to support that she does by the very fact that she was living in a supervised disabled facility run by a disability charity - then it becomes a safeguarding issue to ensure that people with disabilities are afforded the same legal considerations as everyone else. One of the issues in the appeal is that she was initially interviewed by police with no responsible adult present and the same thing happened at the sentencing - absolutely no support. Like it or not, it’s been acknowledged that she has the intellect of a child and as such she is a vulnerable adult, so this should have been a matter of course. Her family weren’t even aware she was in police custody until a reporter knocked on their door for comment.