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Year 6 children weigh in and measurements

198 replies

Yoyo2021 · 24/03/2023 18:47

Hi all,

Just received a email about the nhs coming in to weigh my child’s year group and measure height etc.

It said this will be done in a private room.

I’ve opted out following the link.

I just think what’s the point my child isn’t under weight or over weight!

If I had cause for concern I would go to the doctors!

AIBU

Year 6 children weigh in and measurements
OP posts:
NerrSnerr · 24/03/2023 20:44

Dodgeitornot · 24/03/2023 20:41

This caused my DD so much stress. I wish we had had the option to opt out. For many girls this weigh in is at a time when they're storing a little more fat to prepare for periods starting etc. My DD got a letter saying she was obese. She's now a slim teen.

The letters are to the parents. Your daughter would have only known about this because you chose to share it with her.

EnchentButteler · 24/03/2023 20:44

Morecrimblecrumble · 24/03/2023 20:35

I don’t doubt there are more kids at a perceived unhealthy weight than there should be. However this strikes me as a very questionable method of collecting data from a vulnerable population, unable to consent on their own behalf. I note on the NHS page on this topic it states:

if local authorities are routinely feeding back results to parents, they aim to do this within 6 weeks of measurement

So I assume in some LA parents do not even get individual feedback, so there is no vehicle for offering help or guidance to children's and parents where an issue may have been identified, they are literally just part of a mass data set? That seems off doesn’t it?

I’ll be opting out when the time comes for my kids as even more at nearly 40 I clearly remember how I felt lining up to be weighed. I was probably a bit chubby at the time, as a girl just on the cusp of puberty, but that didn’t transpire into a lifetime of obesity.

Our local authority sends letters to any parent of a child measured as overweight with offers of how they can be supported to be a healthy weight.

Mavis93 · 24/03/2023 20:45

Many parents think there child’s weight is ‘normal’ when in actual fact many are over weight and pretending they are not doesn’t help them long term- no idea why you would be happy for this unless you know there is a an issue and don’t want to address it

Dodgeitornot · 24/03/2023 20:45

NerrSnerr · 24/03/2023 20:44

The letters are to the parents. Your daughter would have only known about this because you chose to share it with her.

No, we didn't share it with her. Everyone in her class was talking about it and she asked what she got. She found the letter ripped up in the bin.

Burntpepper · 24/03/2023 20:46

HostessTrolley · 24/03/2023 19:28

My d was a gymnast, training several
times a week by year 6, and rather muscular. We got a letter saying she was obese.

She brought it up for discussion with her therapist when she was an inpatient in an eating disorder unit at the other side of the country, with a BMI of about 13, as a 17 year old.

At the time of the letter we didn't make a big deal about it at home. She was aware of it, and we talked about how flawed BMI is as a measure. But it clearly got inside her head to a degree. It didnt 'cause' her ED but it certainly didn't help.

How was she made aware of the letter though? Yes they know they get weighed, but their BMI and where this falls isn't shared with them in school, its only stated on the letter sent to parents- why did you tell her?

The majority of parents who decline do so let's be honest as their child is knowingly underweight or are overweight. Denial doesn't help a child though, nor does this scheme cause or even contribute to EDs to the extent people on here claim they do. Obesity is a big issue and a lot of parents have lost sight of what a healthy weight is and dont want to see the truth in black and white.

AnnesBrokenSlate · 24/03/2023 20:46

We opted out. Our family tend to be small and slight, but healthy weights. However, from the wider family experience, it was clear that quite often school nurses are detached from what a healthy weight looks like. They'd make negative comments before recording the weights and it created a lot of unnecessary stress for the parents and the DCs.

Morecrimblecrumble · 24/03/2023 20:47

NerrSnerr · 24/03/2023 20:44

The letters are to the parents. Your daughter would have only known about this because you chose to share it with her.

Might wash to not share it at 4.. but at 11?

MissMooley · 24/03/2023 20:48

I hate these weigh ins, and bmi in general. I always get told one of mine is overweight, he's built like a rhino and always has been.
I have another who always comes up at perfect weight, but was under pead at the time for being underweight?!?

Mavis93 · 24/03/2023 20:51

My son was below the 0.1% centile so very under weight- I had him referred to consultant 3 years prior and they did every test known and concluded he was healthy just small for his age. However this may not be the case for every child and could access support for children who may not be getting adequate nutrition or suffering neglect along side the growing number of obese children.
so this can be a really good tool to support/ help children

EnchentButteler · 24/03/2023 20:51

notafruit · 24/03/2023 20:05

Only age and weight is used when they asses the children. Any child who is tall for their age will be classed as overweight/obese. I have a couple of friends are very tall, and have very tall children, and they've all been classed as overweight/obese, when in reality they have a perfectly healthy weight/height ratio.

Unfortunately it's misinformation like this which causes distrust in a public health service.

From the National Child Measurement Programme website:

The National Child Measurement Programme (NCMP) measures the height and weight of children in Reception class (aged 4 to 5) and year 6 (aged 10 to 11), to assess overweight and obesity levels in children within primary schools.

Uurrjb · 24/03/2023 20:54

It’s a way to track healths population I guess and how funding for nhs/schools/community is divided up…more funding for recreational space if there is an overweight community? Two out of my three were in overweight category in yr 6 and one still is what do you think is going to happen with information?

Morecrimblecrumble · 24/03/2023 20:55

All the posters saying ‘how were the kids aware of the letter’ are really surprising me- I assume child will be aware, because they were the one stood there being weighed and measured and X weeks later ‘the letter’ was the topic of chatter among the kids? Surely that’s how it goes?

Not every parent is going to be planning on keeping it from their child, of course they will know there was a letter - would you lie to your child once asked if you didn’t want them to know?

BHRK · 24/03/2023 20:58

It’s to gather national data for goodness sake, so we can work out if the nation is getting fatter, what our health services will need to look like in the future.
So many parents are in denial about the weight of their child

RedRobyn2021 · 24/03/2023 20:59

It's apparently data collection and they're told strictly not to discuss the results with the students.

Personally I think it is damaging and obscene, if it were my child they wouldn't even be going to school that day.

However a lot of people say the kids don't even notice/care and it's to keep track of the rising obesity of children.

IMO you aren't being unreasonable.

LittleBearPad · 24/03/2023 21:02

RedRobyn2021 · 24/03/2023 20:59

It's apparently data collection and they're told strictly not to discuss the results with the students.

Personally I think it is damaging and obscene, if it were my child they wouldn't even be going to school that day.

However a lot of people say the kids don't even notice/care and it's to keep track of the rising obesity of children.

IMO you aren't being unreasonable.

If you think it’s obscene you need to get a dictionary.

SomePosters · 24/03/2023 21:02

Threads like this remind me why u shouldn’t get into public health.

This is to try and combat increasing obesity rates so your kids don’t suffer horrendous ill health as they age but as always people feel the need to kick of and deny a need for it despite overwhelming evidence there is a need for it!

Oblomov23 · 24/03/2023 21:11

I think it's wrong to opt out. It's a good data capture. If your child is overweight you would know this already.

Morecrimblecrumble · 24/03/2023 21:15

If you hear from your letter that your child is obese (and say for arguments sake you had not already been aware of this as their parent) what help is offered, does anyone know? Was it useful? Was there continued support?
I just wonder, is it a data collection exercise, or is it an exercise to look for those that need help at the individual level?

With children's centres and sure starts etc having gone by the wayside, it seems that the intention to really support health in the early years isn’t actually there.. so this is more likely just mass data not individual focussed. Happy to be educated otherwise by any families who have received robust effective support based on the NCMP

MissMooley · 24/03/2023 21:19

@Morecrimblecrumble a leaflet with some info on food and some links.

CatOnTheChair · 24/03/2023 21:22

Oblomov23 · 24/03/2023 21:11

I think it's wrong to opt out. It's a good data capture. If your child is overweight you would know this already.

If only!
A couple of DS2's friends got an invite to a set of healthy eating sessions following the Y6 BMI assessments. All the mothers were adamant their child was fine. Personally, I'd say the ones who got the letter would all of benefited from slimming down a bit. Its really easy to be in denial says the obese mother scoffing chocolate right now

eatdrinkandbemerry · 24/03/2023 21:23

My daughter will be flagged up as underweight (she has asd and struggles with food) .
I will then receive a letter stating she's underweight and I will file it in the recycling bin 👍🏻because I already know and she's already under a dietitian.
She won't want to opt out because she will want to be the same as her peers and that's fine too 👍🏻 it's no big deal.
Ps in my eyes she's perfect and the chunky kid's parents will be disgusted that they get a letter saying their child is overweight because they are just solid,puppy fat or muscular 🤷‍♀️.
We are conditioned to see are children as perfect and the truth sometimes needs to come from someone impartial!

LuciferRising · 24/03/2023 21:24

SomePosters · 24/03/2023 21:02

Threads like this remind me why u shouldn’t get into public health.

This is to try and combat increasing obesity rates so your kids don’t suffer horrendous ill health as they age but as always people feel the need to kick of and deny a need for it despite overwhelming evidence there is a need for it!

60% of the population are overweight. That's a lot of people who potentially may not want to face facts, especially when it applies to their children. What better way than to vilify the methods used to collect the data.

tillyoumakeit · 24/03/2023 21:27

I voted yabu and my child is obese. I still agreed for him to be included it's important to measure the population. Plus it means if we wanted we would have access to support. Where I live you can be offered exercise and food education classes etc.

roseberrycherry · 24/03/2023 21:31

cadburyegg · 24/03/2023 20:12

As someone who has 2 underweight children I would welcome a HCP weighing them and giving me ideas on how to bring their weight to a healthy level!!

I don't understand the posts on these threads that say things like, oh my child was so stressed out as a result. The measurements are sent home, it's up to the parent what they do with the information. Personally if I was told my child was overweight I'd hide the letter away and try to make subtle dietary changes.

This! My DD's results came back very underweight! She was on the 1st centile. She is tall for her age and very slim. I didn't tell her, just got some advice.

Chocolate23 · 24/03/2023 21:39

notafruit · 24/03/2023 20:05

Only age and weight is used when they asses the children. Any child who is tall for their age will be classed as overweight/obese. I have a couple of friends are very tall, and have very tall children, and they've all been classed as overweight/obese, when in reality they have a perfectly healthy weight/height ratio.

That's not the case. My daughter was measured last year when she was in year 6 and she was significantly heavier than most of her peers at 8 stone 10 however, she was also 5ft6. Her BMI came out as normal.