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To wonder about the government warning to our phones.

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TarasHarp55 · 21/03/2023 17:29

Does anyone know much about this emergency warning thing on our phones. Can't remember the exact day but in April they're going to test it out. Is it fear mongering again. I'm going to switch it off, anyone else.

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704703hey · 22/03/2023 15:03

Conkersinautumn · 22/03/2023 14:42

Just think of all those thoughtless cheats with those second phones that will go off.

You just made me giggle! Thoughtless cheats would probably disable them though.

As far as I'm aware it comes up as a broadcast and you have to click on it. If your phone is locked it still shows up and once you've clicked it you can unlock your phone.

SixPenny · 22/03/2023 15:16

I've disabled it.
It's rare we get extreme weather in the UK, so rare that it literally doesn't happen.
Earthquakes, tsunamis and tornadoes...nope, and if we do, they're so mild that they practically pass unnoticed.
We can tell if it's snowing or raining just by looking out of the window.
Failing that, we have things called weather forecasts.
Terrorists attacks? Rubbish. Do you really think that terrorists inform the authorities of when they're going to attack so we can be forewarned?
Nuclear attack? That will be the four minutes warning then, which will serve no purpose whatsoever. Mainly because no one will be anywhere near a bunker that they haven't made yet.
Understandable that some countries who do suffer extreme weather events have it, but there's no reason for it in the UK.
More big brother crap.

704703hey · 22/03/2023 15:21

I'll keep it on for a bit. If it starts to get irritating with things like 'heavy wind' I'll disable it.

toomuchlaundry · 22/03/2023 15:22

@SixPenny the IRA used to give warnings, not always, but they did sometimes.

DogInATent · 22/03/2023 15:28

Tryingtokeepgoing · 22/03/2023 10:44

It’s not fear of receiving warnings, rather mild bemusement at the point of them in the UK isn’t it? A slight overreaction to assume that any questioning of the purpose is a result of fear or anxiety. I quite like living in a country where we are free to question and challenge…

There are several responses specifically saying that they don't want to receive warnings due to anxiety and related MH issues.

I've had three flood warning texts already this year. So the argument that there's no need for a warning system seems a little odd/out of touch. You could say, "But you're getting the warning texts so why do we need an alert system?" - but I only get them for the areas I've subscribed to not the area I am in. A geographic-based warning system (rather than a personal subscription system) reduces the amount of information you need to give to authorities to get warning of urgent and developing situations.

SixPenny · 22/03/2023 15:29

toomuchlaundry · 22/03/2023 15:22

@SixPenny the IRA used to give warnings, not always, but they did sometimes.

I know. Usually telling us that the bomb was at one end to get everyone to run to the other end, where it actually was.
That....was the purpose of the warning.!
I say this from bitter experience.

DogInATent · 22/03/2023 15:32

SixPenny · 22/03/2023 15:16

I've disabled it.
It's rare we get extreme weather in the UK, so rare that it literally doesn't happen.
Earthquakes, tsunamis and tornadoes...nope, and if we do, they're so mild that they practically pass unnoticed.
We can tell if it's snowing or raining just by looking out of the window.
Failing that, we have things called weather forecasts.
Terrorists attacks? Rubbish. Do you really think that terrorists inform the authorities of when they're going to attack so we can be forewarned?
Nuclear attack? That will be the four minutes warning then, which will serve no purpose whatsoever. Mainly because no one will be anywhere near a bunker that they haven't made yet.
Understandable that some countries who do suffer extreme weather events have it, but there's no reason for it in the UK.
More big brother crap.

So the wildfires last year were just a dream?
Boscastle has never flooded?
etc. etc.

pigsDOfly · 22/03/2023 15:41

Do we really have that many 'disasters' in this country to warrant it; natural or otherwise?

Given that most people that have phones seem to be permanently attached to them wont they know about anything that's occurring as it happens.

If it were a case of nuclear war it would all be over in minutes, no one would survive and it would just cause unnecessary distress and panic in the populations last moments, better we don't know really.

Given that not everyone has a smart phone, what happens to those people if it were something that required everyone to congregate in a certain place, for instance?

Would it just be a case of well you're too old, or too poor, or whatever, to have a smart phone so you can just be crushed or poisoned or whatever; seems a bit harsh.

SixPenny · 22/03/2023 15:47

@DogInATent As I say, a rarity.
The wildfires are hardly on par with those in other countries, nor is flooding.

toomuchlaundry · 22/03/2023 16:01

I was in Exeter on the day there was a nail bomber. All office buildings, shops etc were evacuated in quite a wide area. The police were running in and out of buildings telling people to evacuate. A warning on phones would have been easier, and those who didn’t have phones would have heard the warnings on other people’s phones.

Assume if there was a large gas leak or similar event requiring a large evacuation a mass message would also be useful

User6495321 · 22/03/2023 16:04

When there is 'extreme' weather here the news and papers are full of it for several days, I don't need a wailing phone to tell me this as well. Anyone worried about floods can sign up to flood alerts.

User6495321 · 22/03/2023 16:06

You can guarantee it will be used for the weather as it is so OTT here when it diverts slightly from the norm.

feellikeanalien · 22/03/2023 17:35

I think a lot of people just think that this government are so inept that they will end up making a cock-up of it in one way or another.

Look at the Test and Trace app. I know it's not exactly the same thing but that's about the level of competence they have.

In any event we are already one of the nations with the highest level of CCTV surveillance in the world and people are eagerly using Alexa, Ring doorbells and other smart technology without even thinking about it.

allibaby · 22/03/2023 18:12

toomuchlaundry · 22/03/2023 10:52

What about flood warnings? What about the town where the dam nearly burst.

Better to have something for a just in case moment.

Spent many years in education/work did various fire drills but never had an actual fire

A friend of mine lives in an area that always floods and unfortunately so does her house.
Over the years she's had many warnings of floods and has taken the necessary steps to o protect her home which unfortunately don't really work.
She's never needed the government to send an alert to her phone to warn of the floods.

toomuchlaundry · 22/03/2023 18:56

France has a similar alert system, and I assume from types of emergencies they are a similar country to us

FatGirlSwim · 22/03/2023 19:02

How do you disable it? My autistic dd is going to be petrified if her phone starts warning her about some kind of national emergency.

KateAusten · 22/03/2023 19:05

It sounds very controlling

I don't want an unwanted text or alert

I also don't appreciate being told what to do

I'll block the number

toomuchlaundry · 22/03/2023 19:07

@KateAusten so if you were told to evacuate an area because of a gas leak would you ignore it. Or a forest fire was going to destroy your home you would sit tight because you don’t like being told what to do. Are you a toddler?

Crispsdippedinmilk · 22/03/2023 19:10

KateAusten · 22/03/2023 19:05

It sounds very controlling

I don't want an unwanted text or alert

I also don't appreciate being told what to do

I'll block the number

Obviously don't want to tell you what to do Winkbut that's not how you disable it from your phone. You need to turn it off in your settings.

premicrois · 22/03/2023 19:15

FatGirlSwim · 22/03/2023 19:02

How do you disable it? My autistic dd is going to be petrified if her phone starts warning her about some kind of national emergency.

iPhone its settings > notifications then scroll to the bottom

Jonei · 22/03/2023 19:24

I can't see the point of it. It will just set off mass panic and if it's bad, like a nuclear fallout, then if I'm close I'd rather just be in it and die immediately. It's not going to be possible to get away far enough in that time frame to make a difference anyway.

Jonei · 22/03/2023 19:26

toomuchlaundry · 22/03/2023 19:07

@KateAusten so if you were told to evacuate an area because of a gas leak would you ignore it. Or a forest fire was going to destroy your home you would sit tight because you don’t like being told what to do. Are you a toddler?

Not all of us live near forests. And imagine living for so many years with out this technology, to suddenly need this warning system now. 🙄

toomuchlaundry · 22/03/2023 19:29

@Jonei jut think how many other countries have similar systems and their population cope with having it without getting all het up about it. A number of posters have said how it works in their country and have no problems with it. We are quite an embarrassing nation sometimes.

Crispsdippedinmilk · 22/03/2023 19:32

Jonei · 22/03/2023 19:26

Not all of us live near forests. And imagine living for so many years with out this technology, to suddenly need this warning system now. 🙄

That's why it's going to be location targetted, so if you don't live near a forest your not going to get an alert about a fire.
The UK hase had a warning system in place for years and years that can role out alerts in the case of threat to life or similar on the bbc, this is just essentially an adapted version as people move away from live TV and radio.

User6495321 · 22/03/2023 19:32

It will just make some people even more attached to their phone than they already are, already people can't seem to go to bed without it by their side. It's like an extension of ones being

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