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To ask if you know any "Secret option 3" secrets? how many "rules" in life are you only finding out too late?

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coffeeginandkindness · 18/03/2023 20:11

Inspired by this scene in friends where Ross and Rachel are talking about the unwritten rules of life I was thinking what other examples there are

Some of mine are money based but i was also thinking about the thread a few weeks ago where the OP felt like she was being left behind her peers in many other ways. Even though they had all been on a level playing field at uni,

People who manage to buy two properties and let one out instead of buying a bigger house to provide passive income.

People who have limited companies as well as their paid jobs and run expenses through this to reduce their outgoings?

Are there other secrets?
Aibu to ask you share yours?

OP posts:
LoekMa · 20/03/2023 07:53

Very weird, disordered post.

OP..are you OK?

soffa · 20/03/2023 07:55

I'm
pretty sure most billionaires are Libra & Pisces & most Olympians are Capricorn 😆

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 20/03/2023 07:55

Makingamess4212 · 20/03/2023 00:36

I'm unsure where you got this info, but after working in schools for years, when planning mine that's exactly what I did! Currently 36 weeks so it worked out great.
I've found the summer borns are very much the "baby" of the class. Your "risers" have far too much pressure on them, and they can get bored in class very easily. Not only for academic reasons. My sister was a riser and hated it. Also, the babies and risers are often worlds apart but in the same class.. At sports day last year we had a 5 year old doing "nursery activities" and bored out her brain, but competing against a barely 4 year old who just couldn't do it. We all know how much difference a few months development can make, never mind a full year!!
Everyone believes different. But after working in schools and being a childminder for years. I just wanted a kid in the middle, nothing special, and they will be the exact right age for their year group.

Its this possible not just confirmation bias. Its seems to me people expect summer born children to be 'behind' in someway. Yes there will be difference just because they born 10/12 months after a September child. But often they appear to be over scaffolded. Friends who have ignored these biases have summer born children others consider to be 'not a typical summer born'. nature vs nurture?

daisychain01 · 20/03/2023 07:56

Neodymium · 19/03/2023 22:27

I think some people are more intuitive than others.

I was at the dr once getting my kids flu shots. He asked if the kids had asthma. I thought it was an odd thing to ask being he is their dr and he knows they don’t. I said no ds just has the dust allergy which can make him abit sniffly ect but no asthma. He asked again after if I was sure I said no they don’t. Realised later that he was giving me the option to say yes cause flu shots are free if you say you have asthma 😬 ah well. Could have saved myself some money but wasn’t quick enough to pick up on it.

At a tenner a shot, I wouldn't be bothered that I missed the cue. If the GP had been less obtuse, he would have given the jabs anyway instead of going round the house. As your DCs medical records didn't state asthma, it wouldn't have worked anyway if what he needed was asthma as his justification to give free jabs.

OP The examples from Friends are shite.

weirdoboelady · 20/03/2023 07:56

Runningshorts · 20/03/2023 05:25

My secret life hack for anyone fortunate enough to buy/own a home is to learn about overpaying the mortgage. Many people will say they can't afford it but I remember my first statement coming through and seeing in black and white that my, for example, £800 monthly payment had resulted in only £20 being paid off the capital. I realised that if I made a further overpayment that month of say just £5, then the full £5 comes off the capital. I played with mortgage overpayment calculators and saw how small overpayments early on could lead to massive savings over the term. Then (and this is important) I read up on the bank's rules of overpaying so I could stay within them.

This. This was gonna be my secret hack as well. I worked out at one point that for every £1 I overpaid on my mortgage it saved me another £1. To my mind, that made it worth overpaying even small amounts. So....tastebuds tell me 'I fancy a coffee. It's only £3.' Brain kicks in and says 'Put that £3 into your mortgage fund and you have saved £6. Is the coffee worth £6 to you?'

saraclara · 20/03/2023 07:57

Catsstillrock · 19/03/2023 22:49

Bigger age gaps between children (min 4 years) for less sibling rivalry and an easier happier family life.

small gaps are often advised on here and not just overrated but often a mistake.

Because that worked for you doesn't mean it will for everyone. The 4.5 year gap between me and my brother meant that we never had anything in common and never grew close. There's 21 months between my two and they're very close. I'd also say that the small gap made parenting easier (for me).' I wasn't managing conflicting needs.

A hack needs to work for pretty much everyone.

soffa · 20/03/2023 07:58

My secret life hack for anyone fortunate enough to buy/own a home

mine is family help to get the home, don't know anyone who hasn't help, myself included.

JenniferAllisonPhillipaSue · 20/03/2023 08:03

Planning has a knack of biting me in the bum. I planned a November baby as I thought it a good point in the school year. He arrived mid-August, very prem, and very disabled.

I stopped planning and started to live in the moment 😂

Makingamess4212 · 20/03/2023 08:03

LemonSwan · 20/03/2023 01:22

Omg you will have to let us know how you get on! It is close 🥳🥳🥳

Wishing you a good safe delivery and a happy maternity leave 🥰

And to my rule of life - see an experienced Pilates physio 1-1 after babe starting at about 6 months pp. The best decision I ever made in my life.

Aw thank you so much 🥰 and I will!!

OxygenthiefexH · 20/03/2023 08:07

Hardly a secret life hack but make the effort to understand pensions and finance and make sure that your kids do too. Women are socialised to park this stuff and it’s wrong.

secondky have some sort of a philosophy to help with decision making. That helps me because I’m prone to analysis paralysis, and actually just doing nothing is a decision in itself.

Most stress is caused by decisions that haven’t been made yet.

Finally, tip concierge on the way in, not the way out, when at posh hotels. Guaranteed fab extra service. My posh older lady friend taught me that.

Makingamess4212 · 20/03/2023 08:10

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 20/03/2023 07:55

Its this possible not just confirmation bias. Its seems to me people expect summer born children to be 'behind' in someway. Yes there will be difference just because they born 10/12 months after a September child. But often they appear to be over scaffolded. Friends who have ignored these biases have summer born children others consider to be 'not a typical summer born'. nature vs nurture?

If you look at these children away from the classroom environment they are normally spot on for their age and development, abilities and milestones etc. It's just when you see a 5 year old next to a 4 year old completing the same task - there is always a difference. Not saying either child is better off or worse off, nor does this reflect on the success or abilities of either child. But there is a difference, even if it's just their fine motor skills, the 5 year old will find it easier to hold a pen "pincer grip" and mark make, whereas the 4 year olds bones aren't even fully fused.. Again, each child is exactly where they need to be. But because they are in the same class it looks different!

Nooyoiknooyoik · 20/03/2023 08:11

Some of these hacks might make you some extra money but it’ll cost you in other ways.

Put the £3 into your mortgage instead of having a coffee. So you pay off your mortgage early but you’ve never been able to treat yourself.

Buy two small houses instead of one larger one and rent one out. But then you only get to live in a smaller house yourself for a large part of your life instead of living somewhere nicer.

It depends on whether you value a particular lifestyle or you prefer accumulating money just for itself.

GnomeDePlume · 20/03/2023 08:13

For us the life hack has been learning how to do things for ourselves. It started small in our first home but we graduated to kitchen and bathroom fitting and eventually full renovation.

This saves a fortune. There is so much inflation in having someone do something like a kitchen for you. Yet unless you are having a really high end kitchen all the cupboards etc are exactly the same as the ones sold by B&Q or Wickes.

Kitchen fitters like Howdens kitchens because the cabinets arrive ready assembled plus they get a massive discount which the customer doesn't see.

ShellsOnTheBeach · 20/03/2023 08:39

Unbridezilla · 19/03/2023 22:18

But working things put with time literally applies to everything. Some people take the time to work certain things out because it matters to them. Eg your friend with trying to time conception. It mattered to her.

I could probably be richer if I spent lots of time understanding investments for example. But it is currently more important to me to understand various diy tasks, so I spend my "free" time doing that. A friend thinks I am naturally good at DIY, but she doesn't see the time I take to research it all

But if you spent more time learning about investing, you might make enough profit to be able to pay a professional - as well as freeing up time which you are currently spending on DiY and maybe getting the work done to a higher standard.

Testina · 20/03/2023 08:40

CupEmpty · 20/03/2023 07:45

Can I please just point out that not everyone is lucky enough to be able to time conception/ pregnancy with a certain month? Bloody ignorance.

It’s not ignorance at all, don’t be rude.
Most people don’t have fertility problems.
Statistically, enough people conceive first time trying to make it worth considering even though it’s not guaranteed.

Me: 5 years trying, 3 miscarriages, successful IVF babies. Can still see that statistically, it makes sense to try to time with teacher holiday or banker bonus.

ShandaLear · 20/03/2023 08:43

There are only 3 things you need to do if you want to have a great career, a spotless home, and exotic holidays:

  1. Get a good job
  2. Don't get married or have children
  3. Don’t have pets
😁
Testina · 20/03/2023 08:44

@daisychain01 ”OP The examples from Friends are shite.”

🤣🤣🤣

I think one of my life hacks would be: if you find yourself taking Friends too seriously - don’t.

All those, “which one are you?” type convos and constantly quoting needs to stay in the 90s. It’s over.

Dotjones · 20/03/2023 08:48

This thread very much reminds me of the "Top Tips" page in Viz (if that's still going).

Renters! Tired of paying someone else's mortgage? Just buy your own home.
Car Drivers! Fed up of high petrol prices? Travel everywhere by private jet and kiss the forecourt goodbye.
Labour MPs! Sick and tired of having to wait another two years for the general election? Stage a coup d'état and get the keys to number 10 today!

Justforlaffs · 20/03/2023 08:51

Anklespraying · 19/03/2023 19:00

I conceived so that my bonus month coincided with the mat pay 8 week calculation! Lots of women in banking knew that hack.

I think some people are tuned into money management and read about it rather than the home decor pages. I would read those after I understood the tax efficiency pages.

I've got a female friend that says she doesn't understand money and I have to help her. I think it's a shame some women put finance low down their list of priorities.

Generalizing here obviously so don't jump on me.

The same information is out there available to all of us. There is whole websites dedicated to how to maximize your cash.

This is very true.

My dh is the money-savvy one and has all kinds of stuff going on behind the scenes - he reads up on this stuff religiously.

Im rubbish and more likely to read the home decor pages I'm afraid.

balconylife · 20/03/2023 08:55

CarpeDiemCarpeDontem · 20/03/2023 07:48

How did you start on this journey? I’m in my mid thirties and what to be like this desperately but I’ve no idea where to start!

@CarpeDiemCarpeDontem - start here:

www.amazon.co.uk/Welcome-Home-Poets-Guide-Building/dp/1473699991

TallulahBetty · 20/03/2023 09:10

Get married before having kids. (Inspired by another thread where a long-term partner has been shafted)

It's not just a piece of paper and it will help protect you if things go tits up

pizzawinecake · 20/03/2023 09:13

Disagree on the overpaying your mortgage (well, till this year). In the past years borrowing has been very very cheap. You're better off paying as little as possible and investing any extra money in something that returns more than your mortgage rate which til the past year was around 2%. lots of riskier investment opportunities will give you much higher return rates than 2%. Mortgages were cheap money.

Second hack- people don't get Rich through earned income. It's all through investments. Learn the markets.

UpperLowerMiddleClass · 20/03/2023 09:16

I don’t believe there are ‘secret option 3’ type things. We’re all born into the same world, with the same 24 hours and the same ability to access the entirety of human history and knowledge within seconds through devices we keep in our pockets. Yes, there’s things like not being born into poverty, or keeping good health - but largely that’s down to luck. The rest is up to us.

But do much of this Is tied up with our upbringing, and our access to cultural and social capital. Not to mention the behaviour modelled to us by parents and others.

So someone who grows up seeing parents being affluent enough to be clever with money - headspace to shop around for deals, putting ££ into pension or savings, is advantaged compared to someone who doesn’t see this growing up.

Similarly if your parents know eg how university admissions work, or you have an uncle who can point you in the direction of a good internship, you’re advantaged in a way many people aren’t.

Unbridezilla · 20/03/2023 09:18

ShellsOnTheBeach · 20/03/2023 08:39

But if you spent more time learning about investing, you might make enough profit to be able to pay a professional - as well as freeing up time which you are currently spending on DiY and maybe getting the work done to a higher standard.

But I don't want to pay a professional, I enjoy doing it. And my work is to a high standard. It takes me much longer than a professional, but after seeing the state of the hidden bits of a my old professionally installed kitchen, I know the one I fitted is much better quality!

Plus there is both pride and a feeling of security that comes from knowing the bones of my house. I have a nice savings pot, can afford the holidays and lifestyle i want and I won't be poor in retirement, so why do I need a bigger number in my bank account?

But that's beside the point of this thread. My point was we all have the same amount of time and focus our attentions on things that we enjoy and are important to us. There is no quick "life hack" to knowing stuff

Whiteroomjoy · 20/03/2023 09:18

coffeeginandkindness · 19/03/2023 18:39

I'm not explaining very well. People appear to know all of these secrets - to me it's not necessarily about money -
I know someone who deliberately tried to conceive so that their kids were born early in the academic year to give them an advantage over the summer borns -
Granted there's no guarantee how long it takes to conceive but tbh I had no idea about school dates until I had my own...

Anyway I am just musing.

If the sort of people you hang out with are planning their conceptions based on a quirk of schooling, it’s no wonder you looking for rainbows. The whole august baby shite is over egged and paranoia. I had a Feb and august babies. No bloody differences at all once past year 2 . The issue is any child who has no parenteral support will not reach their full potential and parents will look for any explanation at all to explain it other than their own actions

as for the whole tax thing: yes their are financial advisors who will advise people round loopholes and hence why people like Jimmy carr got fined. But tax legislation has a lot of fully legitimate tax incentives . Anyone can and should read those and always use their full entitlements if they can. If you don’t know them then more fool you