Would you hand over the CCTV footage?

[Puttingchildrenfirst]

I can't work out what is the "right" thing to do.

We have CCTV on our house, it Covers our drive, back garden and some of the street outside our house (angled to show our front path and front garden but also catches some of the on street parking).

We checked the legality of it all when we installed it but have had endless problems with one of our neighbours objecting to it. They like to purposefully stand in the cameras view to give us the finger and once even came up our drive to spit on it. To be honest its a wider issue as our old owners used to allow them to use their drive for parking and we stopped that when we moved in, they never got over that.

To cut a long story short... they have had someone hit their car outside ours. They have demanded (not asked mind!) That we send them the CCTV footage of the incident. It does show what seems to be a car going too close to theirs, but doesn't show the occupant or the licence plate.

I'll be honest the CFery astounds me, I want to tell them to take a running jump if they think they're getting help from the cameras that they have complained about since the beginning.

I know we have to give someone any stored images of an individual if they complete an SAR, but I don't think that applies here. But then again I feel like I'm creating extra tension (and being an arse) if we refuse! I would give it to the police if they asked but I can't imagine they'll investigate the matter and just say insurance should handle it.

So would you hand it over (after all it is a crime to hit a car and drive off) or tell them to take a long walk off a short pier?

YANBU - don't hand over footage
YABU - you should give the footage

I'd go for this one. If they still asked for it, I would ask for their written agreement to stop moaning about the camera

I would show the police the footage of them attacking your camera too.

Attacking as in spitting at the camera

I’d ‘mistakenly’ send the footage of them giving you the finger.
if they say it’s the wrong one, ask them what you accidentally sent, watch them squirm and then send the correct footage…

OP just noticed your thread about harassment, one or more occasions with behaviour that's likely to be harassing (or something like that?!) you're well covered to go down this route already!

I'd thank them for their enquiry about the CCTV but state that as they had objected to the CCTV, then to respect their wishes you decided to only turn it on when you are out, so unfortunately it was not running at the time of the incident.

On the other hand... you could hand it over and they will NEVER have the right to complain again about it!

I'd probably do the latter...

I would say that means you don't necessarily have to allow them access to it, although it is a reasonable access request. But, they could go to the police to tell them you may have a recording of it if it's being investigated as a crime (if they've reported it), and the police may request access to it anyway. Saying that, you could also legitimately delete the recordings if you don't need them yourself, you're not obligated to store them, and it's recommended you don't for any length of time.

So, really, you have a couple of options - you could say you have the recordings and that you'll send them to police if they give you the crime number (you can't trust them to not post them online, and if you can't you shouldn't give them the recording); or you could just delete them and tell them sorry, you've already deleted them. They sound like they might give you hassle whatever you do, so only you can decide which will cause you the least trouble - good luck!

Incident happened here and neighbours refused to let the police see the incident and the police told us that as it is domestic cctv that the householder does not have to hand it over. Person was told by police to install their own cctv for evidence in future.
i would not hand it over to the neighbour as you will be the data controller and if they publish the footage i believe you are ultimately responsible for it.
had requests for cctv footage at work and work were only allowed to hand it over to the police. They were not allowed to let the customer view it.
Me personally i would refuse to hand over the footage as your neighbour is not in that particular footage so not entitled to view it.

I'd do this. A montage of every time they gave your camera the finger!

this. Give it to police only if they ask.

Not necessarily- mine alerts when it activates so I can see it in real time on my phone
I've switched that bit off now as I was getting hundreds of alerts a day from people walking past!

They sound so rude so really prolong it or tell them to fuck off even better

No definitely not, I can’t believe they have the brass neck to even ask for it.

I would hand it over because it's an olive branch. Who wants to be on bad terms with your neighbours forever? It might help the relationship

I’d have laughed in their faces.

cf’ers to the extreme there

Not a chance in hell id help them with their enquiries after the way they have treated you and your dh

All because the old owners didn't drive so let them park a car on their driveway!

All of a sudden, sense is made ...

I would use it as a golden opportunity to claim the moral high ground and stop them moaning about the cameras forever. Absolutely hand it over, pointing out firstly how useful your cameras clearly are, and secondly how rude they are to spit on your drive (definitely include that footage too). I would even send them a helpful email along with the footage, with the details of the traffic incident and then "and here you are coming on to my driveway, spitting and then walking off. There are quite a few captures of things like this, would you also like those?"

You can only hand it over if police (or similar authority) request it.

I can be very petty so there's no chance they'd be getting that footage from me

Not a cat in hell’s chance. I’d delete the footage and say it didn’t record anything.

if they had been nice about it I probably would but as they’ve behaved so badly and continued the absolute vile CFkery no way.

I would tell them sorry the footage is automatically deleted at the end of each day :)

I’d just say no. I wouldn’t make up a lie about having moving the cameras or anything like that, just a straight up “no”.

I would probably give it to them, but this is what I would want to do.

And then I’d add and by the way you can stop spitting on my property you vile filthy creatures or I’ll be handing over the footage to the police so they can deal with your antisocial behaviour.