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Husband and kitchen knives

182 replies

Rollonspring23 · 11/03/2023 18:19

Despite me asking him numerous times to carry kitchen knifes pointing down in the kitchen, my husband repeatedly walks around with them pointing outwards.

We had a disagreement about this at lunchtime when I moved in the kitchen and he was carrying one outwards pointing at me at waist height.

Just had a row after I turned in the kitchen and found him carrying a knife to the other side about 10 inches from my ribs. I’ve lost the plot about this, he thinks I’m being unreasonable.

AIBU to expect him to carry knives pointing downwards, I thought this was an absolute basic!

OP posts:
KievsOutTheOven · 11/03/2023 23:16

whatbehaviour · 11/03/2023 22:47

Not rtft but if you were carrying a knife pointing down wouldn't you risk injuring his 'little guy'?

His “little guy”?

His son?
Dog?
Ferret?

Or do you mean to say his penis? Penis isn’t a swear word.

I despair.

mathanxiety · 11/03/2023 23:18

Rollonspring23 · 11/03/2023 21:16

@Eightiesgirl oh goodness I’m sorry to hear this. It’s so easy for people to say it’ll never happen.

Maybe there are some statistics that could be used as a reference point here?

Statistics would help you gauge how likely it is to happen and to judge whether it's really worth making such a song and dance about it.

Rollonspring23 · 11/03/2023 23:47

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 11/03/2023 23:06

Of course you can, if you think you're going to be stabbed by him! Do you really think a chef in the kitchen wouldn't stop someone from doing this?

I'm sure they would, but you're comparing two totally different situations.

A chef is an employer/manager with a load of health and safety rules to follow. He's also responsible for running a very busy, commercial kitchen equipped with commercial equipment.

A domestic kitchen is nowhere near as busy or fast-paced - and OP isn't her husbands' employer. The dynamics are totally different.

Stabbing someone requires a lot of force and effort - it's not something that happens by accident because someone is holding a knife at waist height.

You may be interested to read this article re kitchen safety in commercial and DOMESTIC kitchens:

www.firstaid.co.uk/first-aid-for-kitchens-and-catering/

A few highlights for you are:

‘The National Accident Helpline survey identified the top five household objects that had the highest chance of causing injury. Three of these are common in kitchens, both in our homes and in commercial venues: kitchen knives (49%), hobs (24%) and wet floors (18%).

Kitchen knives were the cause of past injuries for almost half of the people surveyed by the National Accident Helpline, making them the household object most likely to cause injury. Yet it would be impossible to prepare most meals without the use of a knife. So how can we keep safe?

Holding and using knives

Carry knives with the blade pointing downward.’

There you have it the sensible and logical standard advice re how to carry knives in a domestic kitchen! However by your standards I’m ridiculous to even consider challenging my husband as he’s a grown adult who is capable of making a risk assessment and it’s controlling to do so!

We’ve chatted about it tonight and he’s happy to carry knives the widely accepted safest way.

OP posts:
DahliaRose3 · 12/03/2023 00:44

I would hate that, it’s an accident waiting to happen. YANBU.

The request is tiny, and it makes you feel safer. All it takes is a bit of distraction and someone turning around quickly for a serious accident.

DahliaRose3 · 12/03/2023 00:52

Can’t believe how rude people are on this thread. Awful awful language, the OP isn’t delusional or controlling her adult husband. Common sense dictates acting safely.

WiIson · 12/03/2023 01:07

I wouldn't feel comfortable with him doing that op. It's an unnecessary risk.

toomuchlaundry · 12/03/2023 01:11

If you are holding a knife at right angles at waist height and you have a young child of that height, what happens if they walk into the kitchen whilst you are carrying it like that, surely it could cause some damage to their eye!

Knives pointing down in our house, why change what you do from what you are taught about scissor/knife safety at school.

CallieQ · 12/03/2023 01:12

You are seriously overthinking this

CallieQ · 12/03/2023 01:13

I avoid this problem by having blunt knives! Just in case...

CallieQ · 12/03/2023 01:14

whatbehaviour · 11/03/2023 22:47

Not rtft but if you were carrying a knife pointing down wouldn't you risk injuring his 'little guy'?

😂

5foot5 · 12/03/2023 01:28

YANBU and I am astonished at some of the comments on here.

I always thought it was just basic common sense to move about the kitchen with the knife pointing down. I have done this for so long it is second nature now. I would be just as concerned as you at someone blithely wandering around the kitchen with a long sharp knife pointing outwards.

Magenta82 · 12/03/2023 01:33

SofarSowhat · 11/03/2023 19:48

YANBU Seems like most people on here must be working with very blunt knives, which is also dangerous.

We keep ours professionally sharp (ie for butchery) and are extremely careful how they're carried, cleaned, where we point them and how they're kept and sharpened. Ie we warn everyone in the house when the meat knife has been sharpened, keep it close to the area of operation so we hardly move it from where it's being used, wash it separately and very carefully, and the knife used for cutting/gutting fish aren't anywhere accessible at all.

It is very easy to accidentally hurt yourself or someone if you keep your knives as sharp as you should for cutting. I won't go into detail here but you are right to be alarmed at his attitude.

It's also dangerous to keep blunt knives as the force you have to use to obtain the cut you require means not using the knife in the correct way and more risk of accidental slips.

I think as well as being unsafe, he sounds discourteous if he doesn't even care about how you feel. And ignorant of basic good practice.

I would hazard a guess that the OPs knives are pretty shit and certainly not professionally sharp.
They put them in the dishwasher, this is guaranteed to mess up good knives. So either they are rubbish knives to start with or have become so by being mistreated.

artishard · 12/03/2023 01:37

I'm a chef OP. YANBU. Has noone here ever gone about their day and accidentally walked into a table/ sideboard etc and then realised the force of impact? Imagine if that was a knife instead. You're not overthinking this as per PP.

BadNomad · 12/03/2023 01:59

I've never thought about it before. I've just realised I actually walk with knifes sideways, across my body. One, so I don't walk into anyone with it, and two, so I don't drop it on my foot or the dog.

I think you should just sit down and have a cuppa while DH is prepping food. For your own safety.

Nugg · 12/03/2023 02:59

Stop watching Casualty.

donttellmehesalive · 12/03/2023 04:18

I understand that the best way to carry a knife is with the blade downwards.

Just as the best way to cross the road is at a pedestrian crossing and the best way to drink a hot drink when children are in the house is from a lidded cup.

But most of us risk assess and decide what to do for ourselves.

He was essentially just turning around from the prep area to put the knife in the dishwasher, just 2-3 steps you say, and the children are not allowed in that part of the kitchen.

So I would say that he risk assessed and made his decision.

Your reaction sounds very extreme for such a small issue. Saying 'I wish you'd carry knives with the blade down' would be a normal thing to say. But losing it sounds unnecessarily dramatic to me.

He is allowed to disagree with you. I would not tolerate dp 'losing it' at me because I disagree with his risk assessment of an everyday situation.

GarlicGrace · 12/03/2023 04:31

I'm pretty sure I have never pointed a knife at anyone, and I certainly notice if anyone does it to me. I ask them to put it down or move it: to date, everyone has.

I'd hate being in your situation, @Rollonspring23. I think I'd end up keeping well clear of him whenever he's using a knife - I'm not about to override a lifetime of very, very easy precautions just so my partner can show how little he cares!

GarlicGrace · 12/03/2023 04:34

We’ve chatted about it tonight and he’s happy to carry knives the widely accepted safest way.

Just seen your latest 😀 Hurrah! Domestic bliss returns to the kitchen, and nobody gets stabbed.

discobrain · 12/03/2023 04:37

Major overreaction on your part.

WandaWonder · 12/03/2023 05:19

Unless my husband is in training for being a sword thrower in a circus he is a grown up and can't handle knives the way sees fit

Is this another case of 'if you don't do it my way you are in the wrong'

Sirius3030 · 12/03/2023 05:23

He is massively disrespecting you. Lots of red flags. Time to gather your finances, see a solicitor, and change the locks. When he is out, leave his belongings outside. Well done you!

Donnashair · 12/03/2023 05:31

You were walking backwards in the kitchen?

I worked in hospitality for years. Best practice in kitchens is to carry them pointed down. In reality it’s not something people are monitoring.

I know work in construction. We have RAMS for everything and which include things no person would be expect to in their own home.

You think there’s a huge risk to your bodily safety. You also think he does this really, really often. How many times has his stabbed you? If you do a high risk take, very often, chances are the negative outcome must have happened?

You walking backwards in a kitchen is really dangerous, not just because of how your husband carries knives. That also wouldn’t be best practice in a professional kitchen. If you want people to act how they would in a professional setting, you should to.

Funkyblues101 · 12/03/2023 05:39

I think we were taught to hold the knife pointing downwards as children more to protect ourselves if we tripped with it. Adults are very much less likely to trip than children so tend to hold the knife pointing any which way. Unless you trip and fall into him, and doesn't move at all, you are v v v unlikely to be injured.

GarlicGrace · 12/03/2023 06:35

@Sirius3030 😂😂😂

donttellmehesalive · 12/03/2023 07:20

If op had posted that she turned around from the prep area to put a knife in the dishwasher immediately behind her, max 2-3 steps, and her dh had 'lost the plot' because she wasn't holding it the way he'd told her to, mn would be saying ltb.

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