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How would you take "that's the only way I'll get on your tits today"?

87 replies

Workyworky · 11/03/2023 07:28

I've chosen the YABU and YANBU options randomly for voting only. Nothing is implied by them IYSWI. I'm not criticising anyone or devaluing their feelings or experience, I'm just curious how people would interpret it.

YABU - It means I'm on my best behaviour so won't annoy you today.

YANBU - It means I'm thinking about you sexually.

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Companyofwolves · 11/03/2023 07:45

Clearly was said for laughs - but backfired obviously. Inappropriate.

If however at a comedy gig & said by Jimmy Carr, Frankie Boyle, other comedians doubt the woman would have complained.
Doesn’t make it right though.

MsMarple · 11/03/2023 07:54

His supposed apology doesn’t even seem to acknowledge that it was inappropriate. He described his comment as ‘not well received’ rather than offensive in itself.

RudsyFarmer · 11/03/2023 07:56

This is a news story with Pat Sharp. I took it as a joke that would have hit the mark when he was young and considered attractive (not by me). But completely misplaced at an industry event when he is now in his sixties.

NooNakedJacuzziness · 11/03/2023 07:59

I feel a little bit sorry for him but he should know that you just don't say things like that these days. Maybe slightly different if at a hen do or similar. I totally get her feeling humiliated in front of colleagues at a work event. I also get that he's from a different generation. Maybe a temporary suspension would've been a better outcome

billy1966 · 11/03/2023 08:01

Really vulgar in the context he said it.

He may have said it in jest, but it was hugely inappropriate.

He's very dim clearly.

Hard to believe men are still blowing up their lives with such stupidity still.

He must feel like an awful tit, if you'll excuse the pun!

Nevergonnastop · 11/03/2023 08:01

If something gets on your tits it means it annoys you.

DrMeredithGrey2023 · 11/03/2023 08:03

I don't think it would have offended me, I'd be able to laugh along - but not sure I would have the same sentiments if it was a work event, like the woman he made the 'joke' to was.

Like said above, if it was an edgy comic, I think it wouldn't have been headline worthy.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 11/03/2023 08:05

It's annoying women still get this sort of shit when they are working. He'd have never said the equivalent to a man.

Booooot · 11/03/2023 08:06

Don’t really understand why you didn’t mention in the op about the T-shirt as that provides the context for this. It was a sexual comment and he deserved to be hounded for it!

TheEdgeOfTime · 11/03/2023 08:07

Definitely off colour but not something to sack him over.

namechangeforthisbleep · 11/03/2023 08:08

Pointless post when you don't give enough info!

OlympicProcrastinator · 11/03/2023 08:10

I wouldn’t have cried but other than that I would have done as she did, refused to accept the t shirt, dropped it at his feet and left the stage. His apology was not an apology as it didn’t acknowledge any wrongdoing. He’s a creep.

I would have laughed in other contexts. Context is everything.

namechangeforthisbleep · 11/03/2023 08:10

OP
should have posted the link instead of silly cryptic title!

Workyworky · 11/03/2023 08:11

Londoner256 · 11/03/2023 07:42

Yes it’s a news story involving Pat Sharp, linked up thread now.
OP was trying to be give him the benefit of the doubt, but I think the meaning is clear when in the context of the T-shirt!

I didn't say I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. I just wondered what people thought.

My actual thought when I read it was sadness that another one was like that.

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Workyworky · 11/03/2023 08:14

I didn't mention the t-shirt because neither interpretation would make sense without it.

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MissTrip82 · 11/03/2023 08:16

HareintheBluebells · 11/03/2023 07:45

A misjudged joke- sacking him seems completely OTT.

The article I read said his contact ends shortly and was not being renewed before this. Can you link to the article that you read reporting he was sacked over this comment?

OP a better poll might be : do you work somewhere where it would be ok to say this?

I do not and have never.

Greenfairydust · 11/03/2023 08:17

I don't need a ''context''.

I would find this offensive and inappropriate in any context...

If this was a colleague/work situation, report the person to HR as this was completely unacceptable.

Nevergonnastop · 11/03/2023 08:20

You never mentioned the tshirt, but literally mentioning the tshirt completely changes everything. It shows how context is EVERYTHING. After reading this part I've changed my vote:

According to the Mail Online, Sharp gave the woman – who Metro.co.uk is not naming – a T-shirt with his face on and quipped: ‘That’s the only way I’ll get on your t*s today.’

Youpillock · 11/03/2023 08:20

TheEdgeOfTime · 11/03/2023 08:07

Definitely off colour but not something to sack him over.

What if your 18 year old daughter nervously started her first job, all ambitious and excited to get her career started and a 50 year old bloke there said the same to her, publically or privately? Would you be OK with that?

maddening · 11/03/2023 08:23

As a joke and not worth getting a man fired over.

Your yabu yanbu options are worded in a very particular way that make it hard to vote - I would not.say it meant a person was on their best behaviour but I don't think it means they are thinking about you sexually - it is just a joke and an apology should have been sufficient at most, if it had been aimed at me in that exact context I would not have been offended.

Verylongtime · 11/03/2023 08:25

I’m speechless that anyone thinks this is an ok thing to say. There’s no “context” to know. It is offensive and inappropriate in all circumstances. It’s clearly a remark with sexual connotations, no matter that it can also mean, in vulgar slang, that someone is annoying you.

I didn’t know the news story but now I’ve looked it up, it’s quite right that he loses his job over it. And I note he didn’t apologise, he did that wily “sorry you took offence” thing, putting the blame back on the victim.

NurseCranesRolodex · 11/03/2023 08:26

Said by DP I'd be fuming, if said in public it would be a demonstration of abuse and dominance and he would be fucking right off.

If said by a colleague they'd be reported for harassment and I'd see it as a sexual threat. 100% unacceptable. If its happening to you don't put up with it. Reminds me of 90's 'lad' culture, Nuts magazine etc.

NurseCranesRolodex · 11/03/2023 08:29

maddening · 11/03/2023 08:23

As a joke and not worth getting a man fired over.

Your yabu yanbu options are worded in a very particular way that make it hard to vote - I would not.say it meant a person was on their best behaviour but I don't think it means they are thinking about you sexually - it is just a joke and an apology should have been sufficient at most, if it had been aimed at me in that exact context I would not have been offended.

I'd imagine Wayne Couzens made 'jokes' like this in his ascending journey to sex attacking, murderer. Its now acceptable for anyone to sexually intimidate any female in this way. Can't you see that? Bloody hell.

ScandiNoirNuit · 11/03/2023 08:31

Inappropriate for a work event.

Complete non apology from him too, which I find strangely more offensive than the actual comment.

Nevergonnastop · 11/03/2023 08:32

Verylongtime · 11/03/2023 08:25

I’m speechless that anyone thinks this is an ok thing to say. There’s no “context” to know. It is offensive and inappropriate in all circumstances. It’s clearly a remark with sexual connotations, no matter that it can also mean, in vulgar slang, that someone is annoying you.

I didn’t know the news story but now I’ve looked it up, it’s quite right that he loses his job over it. And I note he didn’t apologise, he did that wily “sorry you took offence” thing, putting the blame back on the victim.

Where I live, it's a phrase that people say without even thinking about it. If something gets on your tits it means it annoys you. I get that it won't mean that everywhere, but where I live that's what it means. Men say it as well as women, men will say that something gets on their tits. It's not frowned upon, it's not given a second thought.

However, someone saying in the way this was said, about a tshirt where the picture of the person will clearly be around the beast area, shows the different way in how it was meant.

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