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AIBU?

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to plait DS hair..?

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ukholidayseeker · 10/03/2023 06:51

DS ran his hand down my plaited hair and said it felt nice. I said that his hair is now long enough, would he like a plait? DS said yes, one down each side of his head.

It was bedtime and we were in his room. He is 9. We were having a giggle.

DH walks in to read story and looks at DS. He is obviously not happy and throws me a look that could kill.

Atmosphere completely changes. DH says "you have issues." He pretty much spits these words out at me. DS immediately takes plaits out.

DH continues to tell me I have issues and then clarifies to DS that he doesn't mean him but he means mummy. "Mummy has issues". Again he spoke with such disgust.

I told DS that his hair was now knot free and smooth to try to say something nice. I tucked him in and said goodnight. I left his bedroom.

DH reappeared into lounge later and I told him that he wasn't to speak to me like that in front of DS, and especially in son's bedroom. He already knows we argue elsewhere so could we at least respect his own bedroom and keep our marital problems out of his space.

DH said he was mortified that I instigated the plaits and said I have major issues and was trying to express my desire for a daughter on my son. I have NEVER said I'd like or prefer a daughter and this isn't how I feel anyway.

He said he hates all this gender fluid woke bullshit and wants his son to be raised in his image! He said I've raised our children too wet and have always resisted against him shouting at them.

I said that plaiting sons hair isn't a big deal and there was no harm in him trying something out.

I said I've never even mentioned gender or stereotypes around hair to DS. Lots of boys at his school have longish hair tied up.

Anyway DH was furious and made me feel like I'd done something disgusting to our son. He even said that me suggesting plaits was inappropriate.

I said we'd have to agree to disagree and moving on, you can't speak to me like that in front of him and if he was so appalled then he would have spoken to me in the lounge and not in DS room.

He brought up a load of other times that we've argued and I eventually got him to agree that we don't have an argument or cross word with each other in our children's bedrooms.

The AIBU isn't about how he spoke to me. I already know he was completely unreasonable to speak to me the way he did in front of our child (or at all but that's another thing).

AIBU to plait my son's hair? Am I a freak with major issues as my DH tells me I am? He also said I am a twat and a weirdo.

I honestly don't see any harm in plaiting DS's hair to see what it's like. I will always let the kids try out whatever they like. Thank you reading as it's a long one. I feel very sad about how different our parenting styles have become.

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IDontWantToBeAPie · 10/03/2023 19:49

Remind him that vikings had plaits. And tamale celts. Men had plaits for centuries before we decided it was feminine.

Your son liked your plaits. You asked if he wanted to try them. He said yes. So you did.

You're just showing him the world, things that are, how things feel.

Plaits aren't inherently a woman thing your DP is just an aggressive bigot

IDontWantToBeAPie · 10/03/2023 19:49

Also black men wear braids all the time and it's fashionable. I don't see a difference.

IDontWantToBeAPie · 10/03/2023 20:01

cpphelp · 10/03/2023 11:12

I'd really love to see all the parents on here who happily dress their boys in skirts and dresses and plait their hair stand forwards.... it must be SO much easier to be cool and with it when it's not your son going to school in a skirt.

I mean, COME ON!!!!!! How many people REALLY in real life passively let this happen?

What if your husband decided to start dressing as a woman? Would you be keen for him to do the school run and carry on with double dates? Please!

For the record, I'd have loved a girl. I am lucky to have three boys though, and I've zero desire to encourage the poor kids into dresses 😂

If this post gets me deleted from MN, then I'm okay with that... but I KNOW that many will agree with me.
Perms were fashionable... we didn't all have them!!

It's hair

Sarahcoggles · 10/03/2023 20:02

I think the bigger concern is that you both seem to think it's fine to argue unless you do it in the children's rooms. I assume they're not sound proofed? The toxic dynamic between the 2 of you sounds much more damaging than anyone's feelings about plaits.

ukholidayseeker · 10/03/2023 20:28

Sarahcoggles · 10/03/2023 20:02

I think the bigger concern is that you both seem to think it's fine to argue unless you do it in the children's rooms. I assume they're not sound proofed? The toxic dynamic between the 2 of you sounds much more damaging than anyone's feelings about plaits.

I absolutely do not think it's ok to argue. I don't really get a choice in how DH talks to me or nit picks with me. I don't seem to be able to stop or change how he speaks to me so I can at least try to keep it out of ear shot and I was shocked when he reacted with such obviously distain towards me in front of DS in his own room.

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ukholidayseeker · 10/03/2023 20:29

We've been together since late teens and now early forties so have gradually changed over the years and not in the same way unfortunately.

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Northernsouloldies · 10/03/2023 20:39

ukholidayseeker · 10/03/2023 20:29

We've been together since late teens and now early forties so have gradually changed over the years and not in the same way unfortunately.

Op your post with the term, raised in his image is strange obviously your son is an individual in his own right.

monsteramunch · 10/03/2023 20:44

he wants his son to be raised in his image!

Do you really want to spend the rest of your one, precious life with this dickhead OP?

He sounds horrible.

TheInterceptor · 10/03/2023 20:50

OP, why are you demonstrating to your child(ren) that it's okay for your life partner to hate you?

FurAndFeathers · 10/03/2023 20:54

@ukholidayseeker
he wants a son ‘in his image’ Fucks sake does he gave a god complex??

he sounds like a homophobic bigot who’s terrified his son might ‘catch the gay’ from a hairstyle.

plus he’s abusive to you.

get out

ukholidayseeker · 10/03/2023 21:08

TheInterceptor · 10/03/2023 20:50

OP, why are you demonstrating to your child(ren) that it's okay for your life partner to hate you?

Because I don't know how to stop it.

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monsteramunch · 10/03/2023 21:15

Because I don't know how to stop it.

By taking control of your future and not staying with someone who speaks to you with utter contempt and berates you in front of your child.

This clearly isn't a healthy, happy, loving relationship. So your child is being taught that relationships aren't meant to be healthy, happy and loving.

He is growing up thinking that it's normal and acceptance for partners to be unhappy together and for one to speak to the other like shit.

That it's normal and healthy for a couple to not really like each other but just stay together because they've been together for so long.

You're still young! You could have a whole life, a happy, full, healthy life, that doesn't include being in a relationship with someone horrible.

onthisoccasion · 10/03/2023 22:16

OP, I'm sure it's daunting, the idea of a new life without this knobhead you've sadly been shackled to. But in the long run, it will be a brighter, happier future without someone so nasty in your life.

WRT the hair, it really isn't a big deal, or shouldn't be. It's not encouraging gender fluidity or anything sinister. I firmly believe if we were less entrenched in stereotypes the young ones growing up now would be much more free to express themselves without questioning their gender identity. But then, I'm a veteran of 90s grunge/rock/surfer culture, my first feelings of lust were for Brian Molko is a dress and eye-liner singing Every Me and Every You, my first serious boyfriend had longer hair than me and wore and Alice band. Back then many gorgeous men wore long hair, makeup, headbands (Dave Grohl, Evan Dando, Eddie Vedder etc etc) and I don't recall angst about their masculinity.

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