Children in Isle of man told there are 73 different genders. Wtf?

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dailysceptic.org/2023/02/27/isle-of-man-suspends-sex-education-classes-after-drag-queen-tells-11-year-olds-there-are-73-genders/

And a child who questioned it was asked to leave the classroom.
Aibu to want children to be left alone to enjoy their childhood?
As an adult I can't get my head around 73 genders.. How can a child process that? Year 7s, 11 years old.

Genuine question: I thought gender was to do with a spectrum of sex identification, whether or not you agree with it. So how did things like catgender and cloudgender get included?

First I’d want to know why a drag Queen is taking on the role of a teacher. What are their qualifications ?
And why learn 100, 130, 1000, whatever number genders? What is the point ?
And why spend time and energy learning these when the children could be learning useful skills like self care, cooking, nutrition, health, money management or maybe just something traditional like maths, literacy, history, geography, IT, which all seem to be pretty important in secondary school.

Britain seems to be an awful place to grow up in these days. Children seem to be manipulated to fit some random people’s agendas.

Oh don’t try and find any logic to this nonsense! They also say that gender is fluid and not binary so why are they encouraging girls to chop off their breasts to move from one binary to another.
None of it makes sense.

@romdowa I'm in Ireland there is absolutely a push back starting. How dare they try to influence our little kids. And Mehole, Leo & Norma right behind them.
Enoch Burke is starting to gather plenty of support too. Parents are thinking actually he's not that crazy after all. He's right to stick to his beliefs. It's rammed down our throats here in Ireland & if anyone dares question the ideologies they're called transphobic.

Happy International Women's Day, before it's banned, and while we still have a vague idea what a woman is.

Happy International People's Day!

They snuck in self ID on the back of marriage equality referendum so don't underestimate their influence to achieve this. We worked years to separate religious ideology from state to be faced with it being replaced with a new one

When you say the majority of children (I would argue people of any age actually) believe there are only two - man and woman - do you mean two genders or two sexes?

Or are you using the terms interchangeably? (I believe a lot of people do use the terms interchangeably, for example, when a couple expecting a baby see their unborn child's genitals on the ultrasound (i.e. they find out their baby's sex), and then have a "gender reveal".

I believe men are male people and women are female people, i.e. these words are about sex, not gender, and yes, there are definitely only two of them.

If you believe in the existence of gender as something which is separate from sex, you need to be able to explain what you think it is. If you think a woman can have a penis because you can be a biologically male person whose gender is woman, what exactly does that mean? What is gender? What is woman gender? If being a woman isn't about having female reproductive organs, what is it about? Wearing dresses? Liking the colour pink? Enjoying shopping as a leisure activity? What about all the women who don't do these things? What about all the men who do?

That's the problem with this.

Children are being taught about "gender", as though it is an actual, real thing which is separate from your biological sex but more important, and nobody is even attempting to explain what gender is or why it is important.

There's a reason for that.

It's because gender is a load of bollocks, but saying so is like pointing out that the emperor is stark naked. That's why anyone who questions it is labelled a bigot and shut down. That's why children who ask difficult questions get sent out of class.

Also in Ireland the trans group are bullying normal gays & lesbians who don't want to date transitioned males/females. Calling them transphobic for not dating them. The lines are getting too blurry.

singer15 · Today 02:57
*This navel-gazing obsession with defining yourself as something oh-so-different and special was obnoxious enough before they started trying to brainwash innocent children. People have a hard enough time knowing right from wrong and truth from fiction without agenda-driven schools and activist teachers intentionally misinforming them on the most basic facts.+

You are right, and the distortion of the basic fact of male and female - to the extent that those words have started to lose common meaning even in law was shown by the Judge in Scotland, Lady Haldane ruling at the end of last year that a transgender person with a GRC is the same sex that they claim to be in law as a person born that sex. Some people are now trying to get the law clarified to show that they are not the same,
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4758082-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-3

Yeah I know but then the people who are against always say “you are either a man or a woman, these are the two biological options to choose from”
And I say we don’t, there is a greyscale spectrum in between. And you call them disorders , I call them varieties.

your genetics and how you identify are not completely independent. There are studies about gender incongruence in identical twins that show they are more probable to be affected by it both compared to non-identical twins.

Excuse me, but we don’t all identify as people.

What is the point, indeed?

Sports, toilets and prisons are separated into men's and women's. There aren't different categories for each of the 73/100/1000+ genders.

At what point do we accept that anything which is segregated into men and women is supposed to be segregated by sex, not gender, and that having a gender identity is really just what most of us call having a personality?

And I say we don’t, there is a greyscale spectrum in between. And you call them disorders , I call them varieties.

You can call them what you like, but they are developmental disorders.

But we all are people, and we are all either male or female people, regardless of how we wish to identify.

When ideology meets reality, and toys are thrown.

It really is the biggest load of self centred tosh isn't it? I mean who the heck has headspace to ponder such bollocks?

There are only two sexes, male and female. And two developmental pathways which start at the moment of conception. Most of the time everything goes the way it is supposed to. Sometimes it doesn't.

Nobody has denied that DSDs exist tho. They are rare genetic conditions. Nothing to do with whether you identify as a cat today (yes furries are a thing)

Oh and DSD is the medical term. Not just something I call them. You can call them varieties if your like. I am using the medical term. And again nobody is saying they don’t exist. They are just very rare and different to the 100 gender identities the OP was referencing.

Privileged middle class kids?

And for completeness people with DSD have repeatedly asked for their conditions not to be weaponised as a gotcha by TRA but amazingly the bekind brigade don’t seem to care about actually listening to people with DSD. Nothing must stand in their way.

well said

And yes ... Happy Womens Day all you Adult Human Females 😁

Be careful.
You can't just define women like that, all correct and biological, and by it's millenia-long traditional definition; threads have been pulled and accusations of 'hate' have been levelled for less.

Yeah I know but then the people who are against always say “you are either a man or a woman, these are the two biological options to choose from”
And I say we don’t, there is a greyscale spectrum in between. And you call them disorders , I call them varieties.

Can you plot this greyscale spectrum you say sex is on a graph for us please. What's on your x axis?

How do you determine which DSDs are plotted where on your "spectrum"?

I think even the moderators here have realised women have had enough. The truth and reality will prevail.