Page 8 | Foodbanks! Did I just hear Julia Hartley Brewer correctly?

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/03/2023 19:25

@Greatly why don't you? I'm already doing something.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/03/2023 19:26

And they are shit.

Believeitornot · 07/03/2023 19:26

fUNNYfACE36 · 07/03/2023 09:50

Am I being unreasonable to be disgusted by Julia Hartley Brewer's comment this morning, tha t in the course of her work she has visited many foodbanks, and the people who use them are not that thin!!
So until you are emaciated you should just not eat?

YABU for listening to her.

Greatly · 07/03/2023 19:27

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/03/2023 19:25

@Greatly why don't you? I'm already doing something.

And don't we know it. Good for you with your pots and seeds which somehow are not as much of a waste of time and morally superior than someone making a lentil curry!

Okunevo · 07/03/2023 19:39

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/03/2023 19:26

And they are shit.

Pease porridge with just a stock cube is shit, from experience. Lentil curry made with onion, garlic, curry powder, and some creamed coconut block is good, my teen likes it.

Tekkentime · 07/03/2023 19:58

A lot of the modern poor diet is lacking in nutrition but made up for with high calorie carbs.
Disease, cancers etc is what this type of diet leads to.

Don't be jealous that these people get this free "food", be grateful you don't heave to eat it. And if there are people scamming the system, then more fool them for choosing to eat it.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/03/2023 20:05

And don't we know it. Good for you with your pots and seeds which somehow are not as much of a waste of time and morally superior than someone making a lentil curry!

Here's your 🏅 for making curry. Enjoy!

Okunevo · 07/03/2023 20:07

Tekkentime · 07/03/2023 19:58

A lot of the modern poor diet is lacking in nutrition but made up for with high calorie carbs.
Disease, cancers etc is what this type of diet leads to.

Don't be jealous that these people get this free "food", be grateful you don't heave to eat it. And if there are people scamming the system, then more fool them for choosing to eat it.

I agree, what you can get in a foodbank parcel isn't great and usually low value, I don't see any point in scamming to get it. When I can afford to buy a few extras I try to donate foods we would like to receive ourselves.

Fairyliz · 07/03/2023 20:10

Moonicorn · 07/03/2023 15:18

I don’t own a microwave. They encourage me to make too much convenience food. I haven’t had one for about 5 years. Ditch yours and you’ll be surprised at how much your diet improves.

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Never eaten a convenience meal in my life. Microwaves are much better for cooking veg, less steaming up of the kitchen.

AmandaJonah · 07/03/2023 20:13

Okunevo · 07/03/2023 20:07

I agree, what you can get in a foodbank parcel isn't great and usually low value, I don't see any point in scamming to get it. When I can afford to buy a few extras I try to donate foods we would like to receive ourselves.

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Anyone scamming a foodbank must be not that far away from needing a foodbank anyway. Why would you scam a foodbank to get free tinned tomato soup, fray bentos pies and tinned hotdogs? No one who is really financially fine would be interested in doing this.

Moonicorn · 07/03/2023 20:14

AmandaJonah · 07/03/2023 20:13

Anyone scamming a foodbank must be not that far away from needing a foodbank anyway. Why would you scam a foodbank to get free tinned tomato soup, fray bentos pies and tinned hotdogs? No one who is really financially fine would be interested in doing this.

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Why do millionaires fiddle travel expenses for a few extra quid? Kleptomaniacs or just downright very tight and cunning

CandyLeBonBon · 07/03/2023 20:15

furryfrontbottom · 07/03/2023 10:14

The quickest route to getting fat is to be poor and eat mainly carbohydrates.

This

Kendodd · 07/03/2023 20:16

LakeTiticaca · 07/03/2023 10:45

The media don't really help by finding the largest person they can to interview about not being able to afford food.
Although watching a national news item a few years back ( before the cost of living crisis ) they interviewed a young mother of 6 who had to use the food bank because she couldn't afford to feed them.
She looked like she had just stepped out of Harrods, smart leather jacket, expensively style hair, long manicured nails, dripping with old jewellery.
Naturally I had my arse handed to me for pointing this out, apparently she's "allowed to treat herself isn't she?" From the MN wolves 😉

I wonder if she dressed up because she was going to be on TV?

XenoBitch · 07/03/2023 20:18

You can be fat and malnourished.
What next? You can't use a foodbank until you have used up your fat reserves and are of an underweight BMI?
Reminds me of the comments you see on the red top paper sites when there is an article about someone struggling with the cost of living. Always stuff about how they don't look starving, or that they have nice eyebrows so must pay to have them done etc.
It seems like 'poor' must mean you are skeletal and living in rags.

CandyLeBonBon · 07/03/2023 20:18

'Never eaten a convenience meal in my life. Microwaves are much better for cooking veg, less steaming up of the kitchen.'

I batch cook (when I'm feeling motivated and have enough money to bulk buy stuff and have enough room in my freezer!) and I microwave my own convenience foods

Probably cheaper too!

XenoBitch · 07/03/2023 20:21

CandyLeBonBon · 07/03/2023 20:18

'Never eaten a convenience meal in my life. Microwaves are much better for cooking veg, less steaming up of the kitchen.'

I batch cook (when I'm feeling motivated and have enough money to bulk buy stuff and have enough room in my freezer!) and I microwave my own convenience foods

Probably cheaper too!

I use the microwave to heat up batch cooked stuff too. Also far less faff to steam veg in it too.

I mostly use it to reheat cups of tea I have forgotten about

Kebsta86 · 07/03/2023 20:23

She is absolutely vile so it doesn’t surprise me at all. Hope she says something to get herself cancelled soon.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/03/2023 20:25

I mostly use it to reheat cups of tea I have forgotten about

This. 90% of my microwaves job.

Kebsta86 · 07/03/2023 20:25

fUNNYfACE36 · 07/03/2023 11:45

I usually think her opinions are quite sensible, so I was shocked to hear this!

Now this I find shocking

CandyLeBonBon · 07/03/2023 20:27

Ah @XenoBitch the endless cups of reheated tea. I think now I prefer the taste of reheated!

I was just thinking back to 2020/21 when all my self employed work dried up. I got some work in Asda. At the time they paid 9.26 an hour.

That's less than £20k full time. I'm a single parent and had I not got another job in my chosen field fairly quickly I'd definitely have had to use a food bank. I was also fat from cheap convenience foods as I didn't have the time, money or energy to do anything else.

People who have never been there really don't understand that it's not a linear, one dimensional issue. There are so many more factors at play. Human beings are engineered to need pleasure in order to feel motivated. When things get dystopian, our health, often resulting in obesity, suffers.

Whiteroomjoy · 07/03/2023 20:47

Bamboux · 07/03/2023 14:55

@Whiteroomjoy

most overweight people I know constantly, and I mean constantly, think about calorie intake const, they berate themselves for a single biscuit, they have done more days restricting calories and exerting huge self control than most normal weight people ever have.

I'm sorry but this is absolute arse. Speaking as a person with a long history of eating disorders, who has spent years living with various overweight people, they don't spend 1/1000th of the time thinking about calories than I do, or other skinny people.

Most of the overweight people I've lived with (including but not limited to immediate family members, husband/boyfriends, flatmates, colleagues) will eat a packet of biscuits, nuts, cheese, bread, crisps, etc without thinking twice about it. Hardly 'berating themselves for a single biscuit'. I can't count how many times I've been the only person in meetings who doesn't take a biscuit (or three) from the plate when it's passed round. Most people exert very little, if any, self-control.

Just because you may think about yourself this way doesn't mean it applies to all other overweight people.

I’m not overweight…a sample size of a small group of people isn’t a scientifically statistically sound argument. Ill take my empathy and reading sound research elsewhere

Bamboux · 08/03/2023 11:44

@Whiteroomjoy

Um. Hate to break it to you, but:

most overweight people I know constantly, and I mean constantly, think about calorie intake constantly

isn't 'a scientifically statistically sound argument'. It is, in fact,

a sample size of a small group of people

Odd you didn't realise that.

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/03/2023 11:48

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/03/2023 15:53

Of course it is. And if you're a person who supports initiatives that help with this, I'm not talking about you.

But there are lots of people who say things like this just to assuage their guilt at doing nothing.

I'm involved in a project at the moment giving out seeds, soil, pots etc. to people experiencing poverty. Growing herbs and vegetables to have fresh food to eat, encourage reluctant children, support diversity in food choices. I'm even trying to write a online book with recipes linked to the available seeds. I know that it's important. But doing nothing because 'people are fat and don't need it' isn't the same as doing things to help with choices. Support different choices if people are willing and able to make them.

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That sounds an interesting project MrsT - whereabouts i the country are you?

For many people, too (especially children) there will be a lot of pleasure in growing things.