Teams calls in cafe and toddler

[Swiftswatch]

I’m probably being unreasonable for posting here in the first place since there’s a bit of an anti kids in public sentiment here at times, but when did it become acceptable for people to think a coffee shop is the same as an office??
I was just having breakfast and a coffee with my toddler and someone was taking a teams call at a nearby table. If it’s relevant we were seated first.
Toddler was being good as gold imo, I get sometimes they can be too loud or badly behaved but they were just sat drinking their juice and having a little babble and sing, occasionally pointing out things they seen. “Cup! Cup!” Obviously louder than if I was just sat by myself but really not a disturbance and no louder than any other table of 2 chatting.

The man was sat sighing and rolling his eyes for about ten minutes until I just had to turn to him and say ‘sorry but this is actually a cafe not an office, if you’re in a meeting and need silence you’re in the wrong place’.
He did a big huff, picked up his laptop and walked off trying to find a new table but had to come back as it was too busy.

Now he’s sitting there giving me evil eyes.

AIBU to think I’m not in the wrong here?? I’m really not a confrontational person and normal wouldn’t speak up but a public cafe at breakfast time isn’t exactly the place to do a work meeting!
If people want to rave about working from home then go fucking work at home. People out in public don’t need to tiptoe around you because you want a change of scenery during the work day while you sit in meetings.

[cruisebaba1]

@RosaBonheur

Ok, so what is actually wrong with a toddler singing in a cafe? Cafes aren't silent places. Why is a toddler singing worse than other noise?

I would rather listen to a toddler singing than listen to some stressed out person discussing targets! When I worked in banking a meeting was held in an office for reasons of privacy . I understand times have changed now but this sort of things seem to be endemic in coffee shops or similar. For context I am 66.

[eastegg]

@zingally

You're not in the wrong.

The guy was a pillock.

I see more and more people setting up shop in cafes these days, laptops in tow, and often having meetings with others. I mean, whatever, do what you like, but don't expect the rest of Starbucks to pander to you.

This sums it up really.

I have no idea why the thread seems to have turned into carping about how loud the toddler’s singing might have been, and whether toddlers singing is more or less annoying than a Teams meeting etc. Even if toddler was being annoying, and I don’t see anything to indicate they were, it’s just something you’d have to suck up in a cafe. Totally out of order for the man to behave as he did.

[Whammyyammy]

YANBU. He was a total knob

[Neededanewuserhandle]

@BIWI

He's a man, therefore his needs trump yours. Obviously.

Tell that to woman who was doing a very loud conference call in the breakfast room of my hotel on Monday.
They are both bastards.

[Neededanewuserhandle]

To be clearer - anyone doing a conference call in a cafe, restaurant, etc is a cunt <gavel>

[BIWI]

I agree!

[gogohmm]

Totally agree op. I went to a local coffee shop with one of my volunteers today and someone had the cheek to tell us to be quiet because they were on a work conference call - in Costa! Well it didn't go down well with the manager who overheard the exchange, the chaps drink was decanted into a takeaway cup and he was sent on his way.

[Swiftswatch]

@Hmm1234

You sound like you have too much time on your hands and a jobless mother. Imaging being a mom that has to take team calls with her toddler in the background. Coffee shops have always been a place for those that don’t have to be stuck to an office desk and even uni students. Equally it’s not the park!…

Possibly the most ridiculous comment on the entire thread!
A jobless mother with too much time on my hands?
I have a full time corporate job and took 3 days off to be with my child after an injury.

No one has to take teams calls with their toddler in the background. Maybe you need to invest in proper childcare if you’re going to ignore your toddler while chatting to coworkers on teams.

[RosaBonheur]

@Swiftswatch

Possibly the most ridiculous comment on the entire thread!
A jobless mother with too much time on my hands?
I have a full time corporate job and took 3 days off to be with my child after an injury.

No one has to take teams calls with their toddler in the background. Maybe you need to invest in proper childcare if you’re going to ignore your toddler while chatting to coworkers on teams.

I also have a full time corporate job and a toddler.

I have far more time on my hands when I'm at work than I do when I'm looking after my toddler!

[eastegg]

@Swiftswatch

Possibly the most ridiculous comment on the entire thread!
A jobless mother with too much time on my hands?
I have a full time corporate job and took 3 days off to be with my child after an injury.

No one has to take teams calls with their toddler in the background. Maybe you need to invest in proper childcare if you’re going to ignore your toddler while chatting to coworkers on teams.

You really don’t need to dignify the idiotic comment by telling us what your job is. The pp has clearly got issues. The very act of a mother spending time with her toddler is now to be criticised as evidence of lazy unemployment?? With comments like that you just have to take a deep breath and remember that literally anyone can post stuff on the internet. Could be someone who forgot to take their medication today…

[Cosyblankets]

I'm all for kids being reasonably quiet but I'm with you on this one!

[Monster80]

I had this exact same incident over the Christmas term break. Some bellend on a teams call who seemed to expect absolute silence from the surrounding tables. My DD was a picture of good behaviour. I totally ignored him, but regret not leaning over his shoulder and telling all his colleagues they need to give the guy a cost of living rise as he’s currently too poor for WIFI. 😬

[NumberTheory]

He can’t expect silence in a cafe, that was unreasonable. nd he can’t expect cafes to be child free places, that’s unreasonable, entitled and, likely sexist, given the impact such a norm would have on women

But since he didn’t confront you I think confronting him escalated the situation. I don’t think it was necessarily unreasonable, but it’s an escalation.

You could have tried a more equivalent passive aggressive tactic, like performance parenting saying “Oh look DC someone on TEAMS in a cafe. That’s a bit silly isn’t it? Trying to have a TEAMS meeting in a Cafe and then huffing because it’s not like an office. Shall we count his huffs? One huff….two huffs…”

[Sunriseboy]

Obviously everyone agrees with this poster. I don't.
This post smacks of the self righteous plague that has over-taken the planet.
And the profanity reveals someone who is bereft of civil conversation.
Indeed, 'self righteousness; the new fascism'!