Teams calls in cafe and toddler

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I’m probably being unreasonable for posting here in the first place since there’s a bit of an anti kids in public sentiment here at times, but when did it become acceptable for people to think a coffee shop is the same as an office??
I was just having breakfast and a coffee with my toddler and someone was taking a teams call at a nearby table. If it’s relevant we were seated first.
Toddler was being good as gold imo, I get sometimes they can be too loud or badly behaved but they were just sat drinking their juice and having a little babble and sing, occasionally pointing out things they seen. “Cup! Cup!” Obviously louder than if I was just sat by myself but really not a disturbance and no louder than any other table of 2 chatting.

The man was sat sighing and rolling his eyes for about ten minutes until I just had to turn to him and say ‘sorry but this is actually a cafe not an office, if you’re in a meeting and need silence you’re in the wrong place’.
He did a big huff, picked up his laptop and walked off trying to find a new table but had to come back as it was too busy.

Now he’s sitting there giving me evil eyes.

AIBU to think I’m not in the wrong here?? I’m really not a confrontational person and normal wouldn’t speak up but a public cafe at breakfast time isn’t exactly the place to do a work meeting!
If people want to rave about working from home then go fucking work at home. People out in public don’t need to tiptoe around you because you want a change of scenery during the work day while you sit in meetings.

Honestly I think you’re being more rude by spending half the time you’re sat with your daughter huffing and puffing about a random man and then getting out your phone and posting on mn (you imply you’re still there by saying he’s still staring at you?!).

Possibly depends on how the cafe bills itself. I frequently go and work from a pub nearby my son’s school (it’s a long way away) if I need to drive him there and pick him up. But they advertise “working space” - which is just a bit of the pub. I wouldn’t have a go at a punter if they were there with a child, but I might ask the pub what exactly they meant from “work from the pub” - I.e. if they advertise it they should do it (in fairness, they do). Random cafe, no worries - I took a call at another one and went outside so as not to disturb others.

YANBU - well done you for sticking up for yourself

YANBU and well done. I’d have thought it but not been brave enough to say it.

You're NOT being unreasonable and well done for standing up for yourself! What a wally.

Nonsense. He was in the wrong and you were in the right. How dare he eye roll you!! It’s a bloody cafe. Good for you calling him out on it.

Well done for calling him out OP. He should stay home or in the office in future

Good on you fir challenging him. Ha. Made my day

I have to say if he treated me like that, I would be making as much noise a I could get away with on purpose. Childish I know but YANBU and it’s not his office, some of this shit has gone too far.

Fully agree with the comment about both being wrong.

It's a public space, and I personally have worked all day in a coffee shop and on other occasions been the person with the screaming newborn.

So it's all about tolerance.

You can't expect it to be silent in there, so I always let ppl know where I am and mute my mic. And if I'm with my baby, we'll she's a baby so I just try calm her but I wouldn't let someone's eye rolling ruin our experience.

It's all about remembering your in a social setting and being mindful of that.

I can understand your perspectives op,

Totally agree OP. I'm fed up with people taking over public spaces because they want to "WFH" but are too mean to pay for the heating etc of their homes. A gym I go to always has people 'working' who take over the biggest and best tables and plug in their multiple devices for ages. They can make a coffee last all morning.

I would have encouraged toddler to be as LOUD as possible.

Hehe
🤣😂🤣

Well done for saying something

YANBU at all. It's a cafe not an office.

I totally agree with you! You are definitely not
unreasonable and im glad you called him out!!!!

Totally agree. @Chippy1234 your comments maybe valid somewhere else but not relevant here at all.

I can be a bit grumpy about loud kids in public spaces, although I recognise it’s my issue, not there (unless it’s a restaurant). That said, you are not being unreasonable at all and what you said to him was spot on!

If I'm having breakfast in a cafe I'd rather hear a lovely little toddler chatting away to their mum than a man on a teams meeting, any day of the week.

Hope you encouraged your child to be louder 🤣

These would all be good points if the OP were saying that the man shouldn’t be working in the café. Crucially, she’s not saying that. She’s saying he shouldn’t be eye-rolling and huffing at her while she’s sitting quite normally with her toddler doing normal stuff.

Too right OP. I knew someone would come along to say that as he didn’t actually say anything, you should have just let him be. Bollocks to that. You did absolutely the right thing. He was being very rude.

You are not being unreasonable!

It’s awful for the cafe too as those types often sit on one coffee for hours, occupying a table. I’d support cafes who say sorry unless you order something else you’ll need to go, if they don’t have spare tables.

You might have been doing just that though and the toddler should be able to speak just like any adult.

In what way should an 18 month old be able to speak like an adult?

A toddler babble-singing at a volume no louder than speaking is not something that needs to be discouraged in public, don’t be ridiculous.

You sound like you have too much time on your hands and a jobless mother. Imaging being a mom that has to take team calls with her toddler in the background. Coffee shops have always been a place for those that don’t have to be stuck to an office desk and even uni students. Equally it’s not the park!…