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Eat Out To Spread The Virus About

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verdantverdure · 04/03/2023 08:52

AIBU to think that it was basic common sense to know in advance that Rishi Sunak's Eat Out To Help Out short term boost for the economy would begin the covid second wave and kill tens of thousands of people in the U.K.?

YABU Who knew that packing out restaurants during an airborne pandemic would lead to infections and deaths?

YANBU Eat Out To Help Out was obviously going to cost British lives.

Eat Out To Spread The Virus About
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EasterIssland · 04/03/2023 11:00

Are we really going to discuss what happened in 2020? Haven’t we moved on?
lives might or might not been safe. Move on.

Workinghardeveryday · 04/03/2023 11:02

Youthinkyoureuniqueyourejustastatistic · 04/03/2023 10:32

That 28 days number is because a lot of people are still suffering the effects of covid - like pneumonia- even if they had cleared the virus.
Most influenza deaths aren’t from flu, they’re from the resulting pneumonia.
But they would have pneumonia if it wasn’t for the initial infection.

It’s like being in a car accident and losing so much blood the cause of death is listed as blood loss - but you wouldn’t have been bleeding without the accident.

I don’t know how 3 yrs on people still don’t understand this.

Exactly!! Why don’t people understand this?

IClaudine · 04/03/2023 11:07

youshouldnthaveasked · 04/03/2023 10:58

Move along then. No one likes a bragger

Great example of shooting the messenger! Truth hurts, eh?

LikeTearsInRain · 04/03/2023 11:08

YABU

it was a fantastic scheme

anyone vulnerable etc still had the ability to stay at home and limit their contact with people and be bored for weeks on end as we all had done for so long

namechangeforthisbleep · 04/03/2023 11:11

LakieLady · 04/03/2023 09:30

YANBU.

DP and I called it Eat Out to Die Out.

Hilarious

Dagnabit · 04/03/2023 11:11

Eat Out to Die Out. How very witty.

We used it, mainly because we went away for a week and stayed in a b&b - we are all still alive and kicking.

pixie5121 · 04/03/2023 11:14

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Hintofreality · 04/03/2023 11:14

Much prefer “Eat out to help out” to what Matt Hancock was doing, “Eat someone out to help out 😂

Vegrocks · 04/03/2023 11:16

Hintofreality · 04/03/2023 11:14

Much prefer “Eat out to help out” to what Matt Hancock was doing, “Eat someone out to help out 😂

Gross

Zodfa · 04/03/2023 11:19

Is there actual evidence of a significant connection to the subsequent national rise in cases? This is a common theory amongst "every single thing the government does is wrong" types, but (from memory) cases fell or remained stable over the course of the scheme and only started going up a few weeks after it ended.

megletthesecond · 04/03/2023 11:23

Yanbu.
A few months of patience and fresh air and we'd have reduced the Jan 21 covid carnage and minimised school closures. Did my head in at the time watching it unfold.

RemoteControlDoobry · 04/03/2023 11:23

LakieLady · 04/03/2023 09:30

YANBU.

DP and I called it Eat Out to Die Out.

I chuckled at this and the subsequent comments! Thank you for cheering up my morning😆

RemoteControlDoobry · 04/03/2023 11:25

Oh I didn’t mean I laughed because it’s funny!

lieselotte · 04/03/2023 11:25

ThreeKneeRepeater · 04/03/2023 09:37

YABU to post this on AIBU.
There is a topic called Covid. Put your speculations on there and let the rest of us crack on with our day.

You didn't have to open the discussion. People can post where they like.

Thelnebriati · 04/03/2023 11:25

cases fell or remained stable over the course of the scheme and only started going up a few weeks after it ended.

Incubation is up to 14 days so thats what you'd expect to see!

SilverGlitterBaubles · 04/03/2023 11:27

I was aware of all this at the time, the rising numbers were public knowledge. I always thought it was some kind of herd immunity effort before winter which was timed for summer due to their being less flu and other things around. I had no issue with this as I believed most vulnerable people were still not venturing out at that time.

MichaelFabricantWig · 04/03/2023 11:27

Yes it was obviously going to happen but given that you can’t keep businesses closed forever the second wave was always going to happen anyway.

Emmamoo89 · 04/03/2023 11:32

Yabu

Hbh17 · 04/03/2023 11:34

YABU. We know for sure now that all Covid restrictions were not only pointless and unnecessary, but also damaging.
At least this scheme attempted to support hospitality businesses as well as giving us something to enjoy after a lean time. Thank goodness Rishi was sceptical about the nonsense Covid rules - it's just a shame he didn't win the argument.
We're in 2023 now - just forget it.

EasterIssland · 04/03/2023 11:37

Thelnebriati · 04/03/2023 11:25

cases fell or remained stable over the course of the scheme and only started going up a few weeks after it ended.

Incubation is up to 14 days so thats what you'd expect to see!

Not really. The plan was in place all summer. So if it had been damaging you’d have seen an effect not long after it started which should have lasted until the end of it and few more weeks

Humanwoman · 04/03/2023 11:39

I dont think anyone is shocked that eat out to help out caused cases to rise. The interesting thing in all these messages is how blatantly the goverment controls the press. I mean we've always known they were in each others pockets but now it cant be denied.

AllOfThemWitches · 04/03/2023 11:41

Look, we get you enjoyed lockdown but it was never going to be forever.

awaynboilyurheid · 04/03/2023 11:44

220,000 died but yes according to some on here it was a harmless for most. Of course it was mad to eat out to help out but you’ll not get that on here. YANBU

MichaelFabricantWig · 04/03/2023 11:44

Youthinkyoureuniqueyourejustastatistic · 04/03/2023 10:38

My Aunty died the other week - CEV - from covid pneumonia- because one of her carers knew she had covid but went to visit her anyway. She couldn’t be ventilated. I’m not saying the cater was selfish but the company that wouldn’t pay her if she didn’t, and the government who didn’t put in place protections for vulnerable people still because they want to make money - they’re the selfish ones.

Sorry about your aunt but CEV in the context of 2020 as we understood it only applies to a very small minority of the original group now, due to vaccination. Unfortunately people can’t be expected to isolate/go without money, even when people were being paid to isolate with Covid it was only SSP. Sadly there will always be people vulnerable and die of Covid as they do and have done any number of other illnesses. Such is life unfortunately

BluebellBlueballs · 04/03/2023 11:44

We called it Eat Out to Spread it About