Eat Out To Spread The Virus About

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AIBU to think that it was basic common sense to know in advance that Rishi Sunak's Eat Out To Help Out short term boost for the economy would begin the covid second wave and kill tens of thousands of people in the U.K.?

YABU Who knew that packing out restaurants during an airborne pandemic would lead to infections and deaths?

YANBU Eat Out To Help Out was obviously going to cost British lives.

Not quite as easy for some and covid is still about but people are more selfish than ever.They appear to have learned nada.oh and its not just about young people and chidren.What about the very old who were left alone unvisited or died in care homes or the young old who wont work again because of long covid or the institutional ageism that took advantage of a crisis.Or those who wanted to retire and lost a partner and hope.Maybe those who are materialistic and livw from Amazon loved it but it caused a lot of suffering and now the effects are still being felt in mental health and in the general rage and an xiety around.yes lets move on..

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I don’t think the point is who the scheme helped or didn’t help. I think the story is the suppression of it hitting the news

Not quite as easy for some and covid is still about but people are more selfish than ever.

this made me 😊

not seen “selfish” and covid bandied around for a few months now

Cases were so low that summer - lower I think than they’ve ever been since and are likely to be again in the coming years..?

People just love an offer. It got some people I know out of the house and spending money locally when they had been absolutely terrified and barricaded in their houses - so it was good for businesses but also good in that for a significant portion of people it got them out and they saw that the world wasn’t this terrifying place and they could (within reason, with precautions) look forward to some semblance of a normal life again.

That 28 days number is because a lot of people are still suffering the effects of covid - like pneumonia- even if they had cleared the virus.
Most influenza deaths aren’t from flu, they’re from the resulting pneumonia.
But they would have pneumonia if it wasn’t for the initial infection.

It’s like being in a car accident and losing so much blood the cause of death is listed as blood loss - but you wouldn’t have been bleeding without the accident.

I don’t know how 3 yrs on people still don’t understand this.

Being in lock down was a total over reaction and has proved to have done more harm than good

YABU.

we never should have been locked down.

We now have years of economic suffering ahead of us due to me paying for you lot to be furloughed.

My Aunty died the other week - CEV - from covid pneumonia- because one of her carers knew she had covid but went to visit her anyway. She couldn’t be ventilated. I’m not saying the cater was selfish but the company that wouldn’t pay her if she didn’t, and the government who didn’t put in place protections for vulnerable people still because they want to make money - they’re the selfish ones.

I seem to recall that the weather during this period was glorious and lots of people were eating outside. There were also rules about social distancing and mixing with others so it was not a fee for all. It was not only an important boost for businesses but also for people who were stuck indoors for such a long period and perhaps needed the confidence or encouragement to get back out into some kind of normality. There is little focus on the fact that lockdowns had a huge negative impact on peoples MH and the long term effects of this. I know far more people that were impacted more by the isolation of lockdowns and fear than suffered as a result of having Covid, there are still so many people who have still not left those feelings of fear and anxiety behind.

Had your aunt got the flu or a chest infection, sadly the same result would have been likely

And if the carer has gone to her with a cough, no one would have batted an eye

😂😂

So the countries which didn't have EOTHO did not have a second covid wave? Interesting.

Obvious at the time that the plan was for everyone to get COVID, but in small batches. They couldn’t be honest about that though because of the terror they had initially instilled into people.

She wrote his book!
it shows the dangers of WhatsApp that someone can hand over all your messages with that person to a third party.
anyone in a WhatsApp group with Matt Hancock must be frantically looking back at what they messaged about.
and for future too, that anyone could do this to you in the future.
I think Matt is v naive

I think you’re wrong. Covid isn’t a harmless virus for a lot of people, even though they didn’t suffer too badly with it and survived.

Unfortunately, Covid appears to be the spark causing numerous other (new) health issues and there’s considerable research being carried out currently which links Covid to the inception of many virus related health issues in normally healthy adults.

Yes. Hence all BJ's reported 'let it rip' type comments.
The Plan was for everyone to get Covid to produce 'herd immunity' just in a controllable (for the NHS) way. Unfortunately, it didn't quite go to Plan ...

There was a choice. No one had to eat out if they didn't want to or felt uncomfortable or vulnerable. For those that used it, it helped businesses survive.

The silly eat out to die comment shows the ridiculousness of some people's comments over the whole covid pandemic. No one had to eat out.

I think you’ll find that your economic suffering was caused by Brexit.
We in Europe are doing just fine, thanks. 👌

It's a no-brainer, that the Eat out to help out" spread disease. Even WHO said it was not a good idea.

At the time I couldn't understand why there wasn't more criticism about this, now we know MH kept it quiet.

I live in a seaside town in Devon, we had very low rates of covid until that August when we were swamped by holidaymakers/day trippers and pubs/cafes/restaurants were packed. Guess what happened then? We were from one of the very low areas to a high area.

I think it was crazy.

It helped covid spread, you didn't need to eat out to be affected by the increased infection rate.

MH isn't the sharpest knife in the box, methinks
(& that's in a box of pretty blunt knives...)

The schoolboy tone of some of the texts re the Police was fairly stunning too.
'giving Plod their marching orders' etc.
it was all about ego (with BJ being Head Ego) & dick swinging when it should have been about quietly & carefully steering us through a very difficult nuanced crisis (which could have been better prepared for some years back but hey ho)

Move along then. No one likes a bragger

I don't think you alone can speak for the whole of Europe .