someone tell me what crime has been committed?

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Baffled by this story

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11810311/Woman-49-convicted-manslaughter-raising-hand-elderly-cyclist-collision.html

on what grounds are the prosecuting the pedestrian? It seems an absolute stretch to think that her gesticulating and “radiant her hand” at a cyclist for driving towards her on a pavement is wilful manslaughter? I can see how it’s a tragic, very unfortunate accident but how did this make it to court?

The atmosphere is this country is so toxic to middle aged women at the moment- what is going on?!

The problem here is that we worship the car. There should be safe cycle paths and adequate pavements for pedestrians. The cyclist should not have been on the pavement in the first place or, at the very least, dismounted and walked past an oncoming pedestrian - but it is not safe on the road for cyclists either.

The court says otherwise

Again, based on the evidence we can see. It's not a crime.

I'm baffled at what supporting evidence could possibly be produced when you can see with your eyes.
Disabled person walking
Disabled person flapping
Cyclist on pavement heading towards pedestrian at speed
Cyclist fails to stop

I really hope the cyclists family aren't reading some of this.

The case has gone to court. The pedestrian has been found guilty. And people are still trying to blame the cyclist for her own death.

The whole thing is very tragic.

Rest in peace.

Looking at the footage it is bollocks that she mover in a way to cause fear and distress.

We don't have all the evidence. Interview transcripts etc.

Disabled person shouting aggressively and swearing at her to get off the fucking pavement

True, I'd be interested to see what possible evidence could change the reality of the situation as above.

Again, based on the evidence we can see. It's not a crime.

But the evidence you can see on a news site is not the same as the evidence that would have been produced in court.

Very much this.

The woman said in her own defence that she deliberately put her arm out. It’s not some sort of spasm, she says she did it deliberately.

Personally in some instances I think it’s ok for cyclists to use pavements. In this scenario of course it’s safer for both road users and the 77 year old cyclist to pootle along the pavement, rather than motorists try and get around her on the road. The driver was stupid for remonstrating.

Again, shouting not a crime.
She shouldn't be on the pavement if it's a pedestrian space or if it's shared and she can't or won't stop, ride safely etc.

Shouting is a human fear response and yes, aggression would be expected if someone is putting you in danger, which she was as the bike shows no sign of stopping and would have hit her.

And history shows that not all court judgements are correct, we are all perfectly entitled to question where we think a judgement is incorrect. In this case I do question it.

I didn't say it was a spasm. It looks like defensively putting her hand out to avoid a collision. If she hasn't the bike would have crashed into her.

Give over. The amount of times men have behaved in worse ways that causes fear and distress and the police don’t even blink. All the hand wringing over knife crime that the police do nothing about. But a disabled woman swearing and raising a hand against an oncoming vehicle? Clearly a menace to society that needs prosecuting to the full extent of the law. Bring back the scolds bridle.

I have watched the video and it’s not completely clear but I think the pedestrian may actually have pushed the cyclist. As they could not be sure she did it wasn’t mentioned but I think she may have actually pushed her. Even if not the cyclist recoiled from what she thought was an attack

To fear imminent violence (Ie the crime of assault) does not mean you are scared or distressed that you will be hit -just that you expect you will be hit (apprehend violence) and therefore you will react to it.

She was hardly pootling if she could not stop and had to swerve, she was cycling with speed at a pedestrian.

You don’t go waving and being aggressive towards people on bikes at the side of a busy road
it’s obvious they could fall off and be hurt if u do .
the woman was aggressive to the cyclist
would of took a second to just move aside and let the elderly lady past

And you don't ride into pedestrians without stopping.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Well at least this council will now build a network of proper segregated cyclepaths and footpaths to prevent any further ambiguity or danger from killing anyone else.

They will, won’t they ?

You’re quite right OP. ALL cyclists are aggressive and deserve to fall off the pavement and die. I’m a cyclist and I’m sick of all the hate we get. I am really considerate and always give way to pedestrians, even those walking in the cycle paths, which we get a lot of. It really annoys me when people assume all cyclists are the same.

It looks a very narrow pavement, it isn't really wide enough to share safely from the video although that could be the perspective of the film. I wonder if anyone knows how wide it is. Pedestrians have been killed by cyclists so it wouldn't be unreasonable to be wary of cyclists on pavements.

Where did you see that?

I'm with OP. I cannot see any crime here. Just an accident.