To think that INFJ is a made up thing?

[beautyandtheflleced]

Quiet and introverted type ?
A future date described himself as this in his profile.
What are the dark sides ?
Sounds a bit wanky or is it a thing ?

Not many people are truly very introvert, or truly very extrovert, most people are introvert/extrovert at different times in different situations (and what's going on with their lives).

I think someone who heavily defined themselves as either introvert or extrovert wouldn't be for me, so it might be handy on that front!

You are likely ENFP in that case - it's the most introverted type of extrovert so often gets a false introvert result on tests, depending on your current mood.

I understand that INFPs do not typically mistype as ENFP which is how you can tell.

ENFPs are actually the most likely to be mistyped as something else.

This x 100 ^

We may think we look after others' needs before our own (for example), but our spouses, families, colleagues may see it somewhat differently, and provide plenty of evidence to the contrary.

The MB test only tells you what you think about yourself!

It's such a load of old shite.

Human beings are intrinsically similar to each other, whilst also being utterly unique. It's why Derren Brown is so good at what he does. We are predictable creatures with a mixture of limited traits. It's the combination which is of interest I suppose. But it's like the lottery. There are only ever 49 numbers for example, but chances of nailing down the six that will be selected in advance, impossible. Still only 49 numbers. But we ascribe patterns to them, pick meaningful numbers etc, describe certain combinations as special.

Additionally, a lot of people I know are shit at recognising their own traits (me too probably) and claim all sorts about where they sit on spectrums of personality and belief when everybody else would describe them completely differently.

Similarly, people seem to think introvert = likes staying in with a good book and extrovert = likes parties and noise and it really isn't that simple.

People do like to find boxes in which to sit though. It's why it's wildly popular with teens, same as astrology. They want to understand themselves and the world. Nowt wrong with that I suppose. Most people grow out of a love of Myers Brigg, as you'd expect as they mature.

There's always a "rare, special" personality type, have you noticed? Like Indigo children. Or people who describe themselves as empaths. My mate who is a psychologist reckons the only universal trait is that everybody believes they're a bit different or special. And she says if you verbalise it, the other person will always protest they're not like that. So actually different and special because they don't think they're different and special. Like a worm eating itself...

I guess it's a thing in the same way that the Festrunk Brothers announcing that they are two wild and crazy guys is a thing

I liked this for mistypes thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/07/heres-which-myers-briggs-type-youre-most-likely-to-mistype-as/

Similarly, people seem to think introvert = likes staying in with a good book and extrovert = likes parties and noise and it really isn't that simple.

Exactly. This one drives me bonkers.

More total bollox on social media.

Its long debunked pseudopsychology and as meaningful and reliable as someone putting up their sign of the zodiac or the meaning of their name via numerology.

Might as well throw a magic 8 ball and write in whatever that says.

Like others on this thread, if a man stated his Myers Briggs personality type on his dating profile, or worse, mentioned it in a message to me, I always avoided.

For me, it was simply that out of the many many things someone could say about themselves, this is not something I would find of interest. I strongly believe they are declaring their type in the hope that you/I/whomever is reading the profile will look it up and ask them questions. To my mind, it's a bit of a red flag for someone doing the minimum. Not a good start.

I really like the myers briggs test, I think it is more useful than other personality tests because it makes the distinction between the n/s types.

I think people are often confused by what they mean. Intuitive doesn't mean using your intuition. It means that when you view situations you like to think about all the possibilities, you leap forward a few steps thinking about all the different possible outcomes. You spot patterns and you like theorising and abstract thinking.

Sensors prefer to deal with the facts that are available in the present moment. They're less concerned with possibilities and more concerned with current realities.

In January/Feb 2020 when Covid was beginning, the N types were wanting to discuss the future possibilities and the S types were shouting them down.

I'm with you on that.

I'm ENFP, according to MB, and the only bit that rang true was something about being likely to get into trouble at school.

A few months earlier, one of my woo friends had done my astrological chart. Tbh, it seemed more accurate than MB, which shows what a lot of bollocks MB is.

I don;t understand why people are comparing it to astrology. The MB test is literally just a list of traits. You pick them yourself. If it's wrong then you are chosing the wrong traits.

Astrology assigns random traits to you based on your time of birth.

Human beings all judge other people. It's an innate and fundamental function of the brain.

Either you are brain dead, or you are making judgements. No one is an exception to this.

Not least people who claim to be non judgemental.

Because they both perform a similar function for people who are drawn to them. They appeal to people who want to be given a narrative about why they are the way they are, or why certain things happen to them.

I think it’s based on some type of pseudo science but I see it kind of like horoscopes - if someone lists a lot of positive traits that are supposed to fit you, you’re not exactly going to disagree. And seeing as not many of us sit down and over analyse our flaws, we’ll probably believe what they say about our flaws too.

Nevertheless it’s quite a fun little exercise, had to use it a lot in university or work training sessions

It is mystifying how it remains in use in business settings, especially as there are much better, much more powerful and useful, personality tests available

It is indeed. And wouldn't it just be the case that those who had to fill one out would do it with the aim getting the result that they think is most favourable to their employer?

We had to complete one at work. Rubbish.

Firstly, Myers Briggs is not perfect but it has been extremely helpful to me as an autistic person because it’s given me such a good insight into why others behave in unfathomable ways.

Each type will have the same traits that are measured in the MBTI test but there’s a great variety within types. My dad was an infj and absolutely lovely but some male infj’s can have a dark side. It’s extremely likely that a male INFJ will be neurodivergent.

You’ll notice that there seem to be lots of INFJ’s online and that’s partly due to mis-typing and partly that we love categorising people. Many many female autistics are INFJ’s and many male autistics are INTJ’s (75 percent of ‘F’s (feelers) are women.

MBTI is a very very complicated system. Most people focus in introversion or extroversion but actually, each type has what’s called a ‘function stack’ that is separate from the four letters. Some people are very easy to type and I can do so easily without the need for a test but others, like my son, are in-between and because he’s in-between on the F/T, that gives two completely different function stacks.

im not sure Jung was a pseudo-scientist…..

I love all this kind of stuff as I do a lot around it in work. Never think to use it for anything personal, though.

Have to say, learning that I’m a natural procrastinator through Myers Briggs has helped my life hugely. Instead of getting annoyed at myself that I leave thing until the last minute, I’ve learned that I actually work best when under pressure as I’m a bit of an over thinker who doesn’t always trust her gut so getting stuff done last minute tends to mean I’m turning out good work and don’t have time to change it because of self-doubt.

I’m an INTP which is probably a bit unusual in my industry, but I do think I have a lot of strengths and a skill for focusing on the things other people dislike spending their time on-

Seek to develop logical explanations for everything that interests them. Theoretical and abstract, interested more in ideas than in social interaction. Quiet, contained, flexible, and adaptable. Have unusual ability to focus in depth to solve problems in their area of interest. Skeptical, sometimes critical, always analytical.

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75 percent of ‘F’s (feelers) are women.

That does illustrate one of the weaknesses of the instrument. 'F' characteristics tend to be considered typically female, more women are typed as 'F'. That is not the same as saying that 75 % of women are truly 'F' who take decisions through intuition rather than logic.

I'm a woman who is 'T' , DH is a man who is 'F'. I've already described one of the differences between our decision making styles up thread.

We did this at work. I'm an ESFJ. Its spot on, especially about disliking change!
I found it really helpful for understanding how I react to things and how I work best. I don't know how common or rare ESFJs are. DH thinks its all bollocks and hasn't done one.

Yes, but it does make up the basis for a great number of jokes from those of us who can no longer afford the time to take life or love seriously. When Myers-Briggs was quite popular, the 16 personality types, INFJ, all that, of course there were people who already thought it was bollocks immediately. There were several forms of the one-liner, but the one I remember went:

”Yes, Myers-Briggs is all bollocks. And you can trust me to be fairly rational about it, since I’m a Libra.”

(Note: I am not a Libra or an INFJ, hence I have no skin in the game. Har har.)

No, it’s not. It’s judging, which is not what you’re thinking of.