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To think that INFJ is a made up thing?

143 replies

beautyandtheflleced · 25/02/2023 12:54

Quiet and introverted type ?
A future date described himself as this in his profile.
What are the dark sides ?
Sounds a bit wanky or is it a thing ?

OP posts:
JaneJeffer · 25/02/2023 13:25

Do you want to date this guy?

Lampan · 25/02/2023 13:25

Agree with all those saying it’s a no from them.
I’d definitely be put off someone who believes in corporate bullshit like that.

lljkk · 25/02/2023 13:28

J can mean "having standards". I thought that the British felt very strongly about it's a good thing to "have standards." And as for perfectionists... MN is full of them already.

I did a similar personality test for work, "Insights" ? Anyway, it did describe a few things about my roles in workplace exactly. I know the whole thing is mostly hokum, but I was surprised about what it got right.

Suspect I'm INTP I don't have standards at all.

TomatoSandwiches · 25/02/2023 13:29

This was used at a work placement I was hired for and I came out as INFJ, I was the only woman in a small team of sales people rather than being placed in customer services. I was also top of the sales team consistently until I left.

I have no idea if that is relevant but I also wouldn't dream of describing myself as that online or to someone.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/02/2023 13:30

lljkk · 25/02/2023 13:28

J can mean "having standards". I thought that the British felt very strongly about it's a good thing to "have standards." And as for perfectionists... MN is full of them already.

I did a similar personality test for work, "Insights" ? Anyway, it did describe a few things about my roles in workplace exactly. I know the whole thing is mostly hokum, but I was surprised about what it got right.

Suspect I'm INTP I don't have standards at all.

I hate ‘standards’!

Im good at decision making though and conscientious. I think that’s what judging means.

Dodecaheidyin · 25/02/2023 13:33

"My brown hurts" 😂

Just as well you posted again @Arthurflecksfacepaint because I thought "There's another thing I've learnt from MN" and would have used it in conversation 😳

I still might, I rather like it.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/02/2023 13:34

Luckydip1 · 25/02/2023 13:24

I think it's helpful to signpost if you are introverted or extroverted.

But an INFJ is the introverted extrovert. People often don’t understand why they are introverted. They like being around and are interested in other people.

People think I’m sociable and outgoing. I’m both thise things, but l need a lot of downtime away from people as l get drained easily.

FinallyHere · 25/02/2023 13:36

www.16personalities.com/intj-personality

I'm ENFP and find it really useful to know about friends, family and colleagues.

Things like whether they are

  • energised by being with others or need time alone to recharge.
  • comfortable or otherwise with spontaneity
  • big picture or details people
  • logical or gut feel decision makers

If I don't know their 'type', I'll ask them in other words. Ultimately, I'll assess them according to their actions.

I wouldn't pick someone based on their type, but I would adapt my expectations about what was comfortable or a stretch for them, according to what they tell me about eg their need for solitude.

The basis in Jung-personality types is I think sound. Issues arise if it were used for selection. I have come across lots of people who have been incorrectly typed, especially at work, because the self they 'present at work ' is not representative of their true preferences.

eg DH at work is very comfortable explaining the logic behind his decisions. Now I know him so much better, I know that he makes decisions based on gut feel and then adds the logic because that's what people expect at work. I noticed this when we were looking to buy a house. I had s list of must haves and nice to haves, scored each potential purchase on those criteria. DH said either I like it or I don't like it for each house.

So helpful to understand differences in a neutral way.

SirenSays · 25/02/2023 13:37

I couldn't take them seriously. Grown men writing them on their dating profile like teen girls with zodiac signs.

FinallyHere · 25/02/2023 13:38

@lljkk

The 'J' tends to show a persons preference for sticking to a plan rather than the 'P' which is about being comfortable when plans change.

I'm very happy to make plans and have them change. Once DH is committed to a plan, he really really doesn't like it to change.

It's helpful for me to know this difference about us.

SignOnTheWindow · 25/02/2023 13:39

I would definitely scroll past anyone who put any Myers Briggs shite in their profile. It's not much above star signs as a reliable indicator of personality.
Pseudoscientific bollocks.

Planesmistakenforstars · 25/02/2023 13:43

It's the equivalent of astrology for wanky types.

arethereanyleftatall · 25/02/2023 13:44

It's horses for courses.

I went out a year ago with a bloke for a few months who described himself I think as entj, or it might have been i.

He was a multi millionaire, good looking, ran his own very successful business, fit, articulate.

We had a good time because going to his gorgeous house with its jacuzzi's and champagne on ice was like going on holiday.

But he was superior and a typical Tory capitalist. I recall how he laughed out loud and humiliated me when I ventured a positive of being a bit more left.

He valued success and image above all else.

Now that it's ended, I think I had a lucky escape. I think his ex wife would have been walking on egg shells around him trying to be perfect.

He found someone very quickly after me. Beautiful, glamorous, 20 years younger. I suspect they will be very happy together for a while. He because he gets to display how successful he is with this beautiful younger woman. She, because she's living a life she wouldn't otherwise be.

Horses for courses.

FinallyHere · 25/02/2023 13:44

not much above star signs as a reliable indicator of personality.

Agreed, but it does provide a reasonably neutral way to discuss differences, which I find really helpful.

Much more helpful than starting from 'my way of doing things is correct and everything else is wrong' which I've found to be pretty popular as an alternative.

Blossomtoes · 25/02/2023 13:47

YukoandHiro · 25/02/2023 13:08

Ps: I'm an ENTJ, apparently ... same as Thatcher!

So am I. I wish you hadn’t told me about Thatcher! 😱

FinallyHere · 25/02/2023 13:48

He valued success and image above all else.

This trait is something that could be shown by anyone regardless of their type preferences. Establishing their propensity to value success and image about all else is really not relevant to Myers Briggs analysis.

redskydelight · 25/02/2023 13:48

It wouldn't bother me - I see it as a shorthand for describing their personality.

As a very organised, methodical person who likes things to be carefully planned, the more spontaneous (P) types would drive me mad as a partner, so this would signpost people who were clearly "no". They could achieve the same thing by telling me this in words though.

lapasion · 25/02/2023 13:48

It’s wanky. I suppose it’s no stupider than horoscopes but it would put me off someone on a dating site. Probably because I’ve known some really irritating blokes who are into the MB crap.

Stokey · 25/02/2023 13:48

I think it can be useful. I did it on a management course and it was helpful for thinking about how people in your team reacted to meetings and work, and how you could use their preferences to get the best out of them. Like not pushing introverts to have too much external interaction.

I'm an ENFP (or sometimes ENTP) like @FinallyHere , and found I could delegate more detailed work that bores me to the right people who would thrive on it. Your husband's house hunting approach sounds more like mine though!

Not sure about using it in a dating sense, but you could apply the same logic to compatibility. Sometimes the results are a bit weird. My husband insists he's an introvert but our friends all disagree.

Oblomov23 · 25/02/2023 13:49

ESFJ
Consul
I don't understand the disregard for it.

electricmoccasins · 25/02/2023 13:52

Be wary of the INFJ door-slam. As someone once said, ‘My good opinion once lost, is lost forever’*

*from an INFJ

iwanttobreakfreeee · 25/02/2023 13:54

I probably wouldn't write it on my profile, but if someone wrote their Meyers Briggs personality type on their profile, I'd find it helpful in assessing whether I thought we'd get on.

DrManhattan · 25/02/2023 13:54

Hasn't all that stuff been debunked as rubbish

Whydoitry · 25/02/2023 13:56

My now husband and I did it whilst dating and it was an interesting discussion about our differences. We were totally opposite.

I don't think it's anything like astrology as it's just classifying you according to your answers to a questionnaire. Assuming you are honest, it will reflect your personality. It's not saying that everyone born in x month has the same personality.

Wouldn't put me off, most of my best friends are infj or intj.

Hawkins003 · 25/02/2023 13:56

DrManhattan · 25/02/2023 13:54

Hasn't all that stuff been debunked as rubbish

Not sure but even if it has , if business management ect still believe then it's always worth considering

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