To think that INFJ is a made up thing?

[beautyandtheflleced]

Quiet and introverted type ?
A future date described himself as this in his profile.
What are the dark sides ?
Sounds a bit wanky or is it a thing ?

I've done the test a few times and each time come up with a slightly different conclusion!
It really depends what mood you're in at the time of the test: how strong, energetic, tired, positive or whatever you happen to be feeling at that point... and these things will vary at different times.

I wouldn't take it too seriously, so yes, I'd think it a bit wanky on any sort of profile.

*also if the general.public still believe it too

It’s just shorthand for describing various personality traits. It does show he thinks about himself and how he is in the world which could either mean he’s a self-obsessed bore, or that he’s making an effort to emotionally intelligent and wants to relate well to people who are different, or to engage in self improvement. Unless it’s all he goes on about I’d not let it influence you too much and judge him on other things.

I love categorising everyone I know into personality systems and using them for my own self development but am aware it’s not everyone’s cup of tea and save it for the friends who enjoy the same kind of chat. I mention it offhand to my partner once a month or so, he thinks it’s bollocks but it doesn’t really come into our conversations or relationship at all, other than I’m probably actually more understanding and emotionally intelligent than I would otherwise be of the differences between us. For me it’s probably a bit of a compensation for not having much of a natural intuitive sense of how other people and the world work, it gives a way to think about things that otherwise are vague and complicated. Might be the same for him?

as an INFJ i'm friendly supportive and a nice person, but i hate crowds and huge gatherings and have to limit my exposure to poeple in groups. I get my energy from inside not from interactions. The myers brigs scores are helpful for team working and for seeing how you appear to others. sniping about them is unhelpful!

ENFJ - and for me it’s useful to know that - useful tool to aid reflection, I have used the insights to evaluate my own strengths and what I need to be happy - I now have a job which fits might outlook on life and it’s a job I first considered as it was listed on a ‘typical jobs ENFJs do’ list.

(I’ll also accept that it’s a self fulfilling prophecy! )

It's bollocks.

Probably only if you're at the extremes of them. Most people are a combination of traits and either 'introverted' or 'extroverted' won't describe them adequately.
I'm an introvert, but don't identify with 90% of the stuff about introverts on the internet (much of which actually describes misanthropes).

I think as long as it isn't taken too seriously then it can provide some rough guidance on a person. I wouldn't use it in a work setting though. It's a fast way to find out some basic information about someone's self perception if nothing else.

I'm an INTP.

It's come a long way since NS, GSOH, SWF , LA

My brain (not brown) is ready to combust

I think it's an insightful way to learn about yourself. The process helps you think about your strengths, and how you work best. You can then work on filling your weaknesses. The four letters then remind you what you learned.

It's not a diagnosis, it's not infallible, and it's not the same for life. It's just a tool.

When people tell you what they are, it indicates they very much match that label so is handy. If I wanted a spontaneous, outgoing free spirit, I'd know to avoid a whatever this chap is.

Absolutely.

I’m an INFJ and it describes me perfectly, even all the negative things that a previous poster outlined 😂

Myers-Briggs is a load of bollocks. It’s based on Yung’s theory of personality, which is in itself a load of bollocks. It is mystifying how it remains in use in business settings, especially as there are much better, much more powerful and useful, personality tests available. It’s like buying a cart horse when you could buy a Ferrari for the same price. If you want your personality tested properly go to a psychologist, not a ‘business consultant’. A proper psychologist wouldn’t be seen dead using Myers-Briggs, or that colours one, which is basically just Myers-Briggs made even more stupid.

Look up the Barnum Effect.

Complete and utter wank.

I know what the Barnum effect is but having looked into the information surrounding the INFJ personality it doesn’t strike me as ‘vague’, on the contrary it’s very detailed. I don’t believe in generic groupings such as horoscopes 🙂

If he’s calling himself an infj, he’s trying to let potential daters know that he’s sensitive, arty, quietish. He’s probably hoping that peoples who don’t want alpha males will be attracted to his profile.
I think, on balance, it would put me off unless we shared a lot in common.

I think there’s an impression that it’s been ‘proved unscientific’ in contrast to the big 5 personality traits which are good standard for research. There’s actually a high correlation between the two, so it has validity, and mbti has good test-retest reliability unless you’re borderline on a particular trait. It is just a much more natural and comfortable way of talking about most of the science-stamped big 5 traits. It’s fair enough to not find it useful or interesting, and it isn’t the best choice for (most) research, but it’s completely unlike starsigns, and certainly not total bollocks.

I'm a Pisces, and everything I read about what says about me is spot on.

It's still bollocks.

Whereas my star sign doesn’t describe me at all and is vague and generalised. Horses for courses

Everything you read about Libra will be spot on for you as well.

yes it's a little bit wanky, but if it's communicating quickly whether or not they are likely to be a good match for you then it's doing its job. no point wasting time dating a boy who looks pretty but has a personality you can't stand.

obviously there are more than 16 personality types and trying to have a simple classification system like this is a little silly, but it can communicate broad concepts quickly.

"I" means he considers himself to be an introvert
"N" means he reckons he is quite intuitive
"F" means he focuses more on feelings and emotions than rational thought
"J" is the slightly oddball one because it's supposed be be where you are on the scale between "Judging" and "Perceiving" and you'd probably need to do quite an extensive training course to work out why that's significantly different from being basically a mishmash between axis 2 & axis 3, and by my understanding I would expect most people with N and F as their 2nd and 3rd letter to go with P as their 4th. But for whatever reason he reckons that in decision making he's more in the J direction despite all that intuition and feeling.

If it's offputting then by all means don't engage, the idea of profiles is as much about ensuring the bad matches are directed elsewhere swiftly as they are about attracting good matches.

Exactly, that's my point.

It's subjective validation.

Starsigns are arbitrary, personality typing is a summarising and synthesising of information that you provide. It isn’t hard-nosed rationality not to see a distinction!

But…..you can’t just box everyone in. For those 4 questions, I’m both, depending on my mood and the occasion. I love socialising and big parties but I also love spending the weekend on my own. I love making plans and sticking to them but equally I like doing spontaneous things on the weekends/holidays. And some decisions are very logical and weighing up pros and cons whereas others I’ll just go with what I want at the time. The answers would vary so much depending on the context.