To not actually care if the Sex topic is in active?

[PaperDoves]

I don't care. Do you?

YABU: Get Sex out of active!
YANBU: I really don't care.

Yeah, I don’t get the uproar.

If a poster censors their swearing here, there is often multiple Comments of, ‘this is a site
for adults you are allowed to swear here!’

I guess we’re not the type of adults that can see the thread titles of sex topics without being offended though??

Just mute it if it bothers you?!

I don't get it, either.

Another one here who doesn't care either way!

Also don’t care! Just don’t click it if you’re bothered

I didn't really care one way or the other, but then I read some of the threads in Site Stuff, and some extremely interesting and valid points were made about various (unintended?) consequences. That changed my mind.

I feel complicated about it.

I do think there has been an influx, maybe some brigading, on the topic and on the board. I also think the moderation on that board in particular needs to be absolutely shit hot, in a way that it isn't currently.

However, I also think that hiding it or minimising it completely wouldn't necessarily be very helpful either. We do still live in a world in which women's sexuality, desires/wants and so on can be minimised, dismissed or pathologised. Many, many women are still shamed for having sexual feelings or any kind of sex life. The old 'madonna/whore' dichotomy still happens, and in a big way, especially around sex.

So I think the answer is some kind of balance. And better safeguarding/moderation.

I don't care. In fact I've had my eyes opened somewhat!

Yeah I'm honestly surprised by the amount of pearl clutching I've seen about it, but if someone puts f* instead of fuck they get absolutely roasted.

This is a website for grown ups, you'd think we'd be able to talk about sex without needing a ches lounge to swoon on. Or at least just ignore topics that are of no interest to us.

Currently wishing there was a way to hide the discussions about the Sex topic in Active as easily as I hid Sex topic...

I'm not bothered about it one way or another generally

But I have to agree with the posters who have talked about the thread where men are asking women to PM them because when they are married men looking for extramarital sex/flirting etc

In any other part of mumsnet they would be pulled to pieces quite rightly, so that thread on a site full of women some of whom have had their lives, and their children's lives, turned upside down by that kind of behaviour it doesn't feel very 'in the spirit of mumsnet'

I agree. Personally I was a bit on the fence but more irritated by the fact that it’s appearance in active was purely to drive advertising for MN’s new sex toy.

But there are some very well articulated arguments being made in site stuff that raises issues that go beyond a simple solution of “just hide the topic if you don’t like it”

posters like the OP that want to sleep walk around the forum oblivious to wider more complex issues should of course be welcome to do so but should also respect that other people feel strongly about it and can start as many threads as they want raising their concerns

I’d prefer not but ultimately it’s MN’s site and they can do what they want. I really dislike all the BUT WE ARE THE PRODUCT!! arguing that goes on whenever a change is made to the site.

However, as this always goes, everyone moans about the change for a while, MN say thanks very much for the comments we’ll consider them then nothing changes and we all forget about it and move on with our lives

See also: shonky search functionality; the silly like / save / report buttons underneath each post; every change to font / colours ever etc etc etc

Two nights ago I logged and the frost thread was from a 15yrs old protesting at her mum withholding her phone till August. The next one was a sex one and another sex one a few threads down.

I initially didn't care, but I'm now actually quite enjoying some of the outraged frothing it's caused from people who seem to think they get to call the shots and DEMAND answers from MNHQ.

Some of you are massively naive.

Agree there are some very good points about why it shouldn’t be in active when you can post on it after a week of registering and registering takes nothing more than an email address

What are we naive about exactly ?

I have no objection to the existence of a Sex topic, if it’s:

• properly, actively moderated not reliant on user reports
• opt-in not opt-out (so yes, out of Active)
• age verified (so far as this is possible) for over-18s only
• accessed after a minimum registration period long enough to deter at least some of those just looking for a quick hook-up / trolling attempt or similar
• managed with clear rules as to what is and isn’t acceptable behaviour, e.g. no posts about underage sex

Unfortunately none of those things apply to the current Sex board. Some of them used to, but they were changed and the change wasn’t for the better.

The sex topic is rank. Reading (some of) the threads in there depresses me no end.

However, I only really know about the change to include it in Active because of all the threads about how it's in Active. I haven't actually spotted a real sex thread listed in Active yet .

Don’t care.

The ad for the sex toy is annoying though.

I don't see how anyone could reasonably disagree with this.

Anyone posting that they don't care, and that objectors are just pearl clutching prudes should really go and read the OP of the 'underage sex posts' thread on Site Stuff.

I do. Or I should at least be given the opt out choice.

Me too. All the “it’s Monday at 11am surely you have discussed it by now???” And “is Justine on holiday?????” Tagging in every single mod is mildly amusing.

You don't care that they'd deliberately removed it from hidden from people that already hidden it and blamed it on a glitch? You don't care that they dropped the time from 3 months to 7 days to post in it? You don't care that they're not bothered about safeguarding?

I agree with this. I didn't care until someone brought up the age verification issue and the floppy response from MNHQ actually shocked me.