AIBU To Hope that Schools Do Not Book this Performer?

[RichardBarrister]

A trans cartoonist cartoonist called Sophie Labelle has had a couple of events cancelled on an upcoming tour due to serious concerns about safeguarding.

As recently as 2021 Sophie has produced ‘diaperfur art’ which is cartoons taken from real life pictures of other people’s babies and toddlers and sexualised them into art for men with a ‘diaper’ fetish.

This person was booked for a speaking event at Sheffield Library which was billed as family friendly, suitable for children and among others, at a Temperance pub. These events have now been cancelled after protest that they should have an 18 rating and it is certainly not suitable to have this person talking to kids (Sophie has also hosted a reading event for children in a sex shop in Finland, surrounded by sex toys).

As a snap back for the cancelled events, Sophie has claimed that Sophie has also been booked to talk at several middle schools in Scotland and that parents don’t know about them.

Bearing in mind that a Scottish school thought it was suitable to book a drag Queen called Flow Job to appear at a primary school with Mhairi Black (FJ also had some very questionable social media content)

Article here. archive.is/nBufo

AIBU to hope that Scottish schools would do their due diligence (the information is freely available) and not book such an unsuitable person?

Do any Scottish parents know of any ‘surprise’ guests scheduling at school events in the next month or so?

YANBU ... but this pornography fuelled movement is beyond reason and gets a free ride on our liberal and tolerant society .

Yanbu.

Naturally. Birds of a feather, etc.

People who think art is meant to shock are part of the problem, always doing more and more to shock as we get more and more inured

The Prostasia Foundation is new to me.

4w.pub/prostasia-normalize-pedophilia/

In Prostasia’s blog entries, “child protection” routinely ends up in the same sentences as “free speech,” “kink,” or “sex positivity.” The topics of age play, furries, hentai, and prostitution are spoken about no differently as, and often with no barrier between, child sexuality and child sexual abuse.

It is here, in the not-so-hidden depths of Prostasia’s pet causes, where it begins to mutate into something far more malicious, deviating very heavily from its veneer of supporting child safeguarding. In fact, protecting children from exposure to sex abuse seems to not just be at the very bottom of Prostasia’s to-do list, it is almost antithetical to its entire existence.

The organization’s efforts have dedicated themselves to crusades against child pornography bans, letter-writing campaigns to state representatives demanding child-likeness sex dolls be kept legal, and funding research into “fantasy sexual outlets” for pedophiles.

What I find worrying is not so much even that someone has these inclinations. It's that mothers on Mumsnet have to be so very careful in speaking about them.

Threads deleted for even discussing this person's work.

If it's all so harmless, why is it so bloody difficult to talk about?

Would scotsnet not be a better place to post ?

It's a UK tour.

Being trans is irrelevant and the nappy fetish isn't an inherent problem in itself. But no, a person with an open nappy fetish isn't an appropriate performer for children. Stick to the adults. Why is that even a problem? Plenty of artists of adult stuff accept they're not going to be invited to be on Sesame Street because it wouldn't be appropriate.

the nappy fetish isn't an inherent problem in itself.

Is it really not? I find it pretty disturbing, tbh.

Agreed.

This actually has nothing to do with trans issues and more to do with the fact that this person’s ‘art’ reflects interests that are not appropriate for discussion or promotion around children. It’s as simple as that.

I understand that, and it's not my thing. But if consenting adults want to do it in private, I have no issue with that.

I don't think a person who doesn't even try to hide it belongs in front of a child audience, though.

Completely agree this has nothing whatsoever to do with Labelle being 'trans'.

The issue is the 'diaperfur' art, and the 'little' stuff.

YADNBU. WTF are schools doing booking (and presumably paying for) a sexual fetishist? Red flags all over this one. I seriously hope the parents sue

Being trans is irrelevant and the nappy fetish isn't an inherent problem in itself.

I agree that trans is irrelevant.

I gave serious concerns about the nappy fetish. This indirectly involves real children. This has breached a huge social boundary.

Once the boundaries of normal decency and behaviour are broken, there is a well established pattern of escalation into more extreme behaviour. Bear in mind that many perpetrators offend for years without getting caught by deploying strategies described in the video below.

A prison counsellor of sex offenders has a lot of knowledge about the ‘furry’ (and ‘littles’ and similar groups) movement and its determination to push sexual boundaries way beyond the realms of anything you or I would find remotely acceptable.

Please watch this video and see if it rings any bells.

WOW. That is terrifying. I mean it seems weird to begin with, but when you break it down like that it's horrific. I got a reply from Hilary Coulson of Sheffield Libraries, reassuring me that all safeguarding has been taken into account but watching this video it seems incredibly obvious that this paedophile has been grooming people expertly for many years. It's extremely naive of the council to assume all is fine with this person interacting with children. Mind boggling actually, how stupid they are being, especially when so many people are pointing it out to them! They are just putting their fingers in their ears. It all makes sense with the rebranding of this behaviour as 'kinky'and basically harmless. I might send her this video.

It sounded like it was the family story telling event but it’s actually at 7pm so wouldn’t expect young children to attend, it’s not aimed at young children.

If it's marketed as being for families, it's being presented as appropriate for children.

I was trying to find where it had been marketed to families and assumed it was during the day at a children’s library from the posts but it isn’t. It’s in the central adult library in the evening and it hasn’t been marketed to children. The children’s events take place in the children’s library and they’re things like craft etc.

*A 'little'

Someone who pretends to be a baby or infant. Associated with submissive behaviour, as in BDSM.*

What little I've read suggests littles and bigs/daddies act out incestuous child sex abuse - it is their fetish.

Like it's ok for older children lol

I'm in my 40s and I'm much too young to hear about this stuff.

The world has gone mad. Children are being abused in schools and libraries in broad daylight in this way.

Oh well, but it’s progressive tho, innit?

After watching that video, I’ve realised that the target audience is adults. Any children/young people that attend will be a bonus for Sophie.

I think people who don’t see the issue with this person doing public talks are assuming that Sophie is operating under normal rules for society. Sophie has claimed to exercise Sophie’s fetish ‘responsibly’ so some people think ‘oh that’s ok, he knows it’s not ok for people to harm children’.

Anyone who watches that video will understand the issues with this assumption. I reiterate, Sophie produces material that involves children for men to use for masturbation purposes. The boundaries of what is ok have already been broken. From looking at things that Sophie has already said in public, the talks are likely to include some aspect of boundary pushing and normalising harmful behaviour.

The danger is not specifically to children in that audience on that particular evening, the danger in the longer term is about normalising behaviour that should not be normalised. It is important to remember that predators can play a very long game.

Labelle's "art" isn't made to "shock and raise discussion". It's made for paedophiles to masturbate to.