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To tell her she’s overdoing the Botox

94 replies

Permanentlysurprised · 20/02/2023 22:45

Just this really, do I tell my friend or do I just keep my unsolicited opinions to myself?
Just for a bit of context, we are part of a group of friends from Uni. She was a mature student and is 8/9 years older than the rest of us.
She is attractive with a great figure and hair and over the past few years, has really started making an effort with how she looks and she looks better now than she did 10 ears ago.
But recently she’s been doing more and more and has that frozen look, no expression. She’s just booked yet another appointment.
She’s a very good friend, the kind where we always promise to tell the other if they have spinach in their teeth or snot on their nose. I would want her to tell me if our positions were reversed.
YABU Don’t tell her, it’s got nowt to do with you.
YANBU Tell her, be honest, it’s what a good friend would do.

OP posts:
IrritableCowSyndrome · 21/02/2023 00:42

I'd tell her but be very careful how I word it.

IceReckon · 21/02/2023 00:47

I would tell her gently.
It's not the same as looking in the mirror to see a hair cut, you don't see all angles, expressions and movements accurately in a mirror so she won't be seeing the full effect unless she's watches videos of herself at different angles where she wasn't aware of being recorded (which is unlikely!)

Permanentlysurprised · 21/02/2023 00:48

itswednesdayy · 21/02/2023 00:40

The thing is Botox looks harsh at first then wears off after a few days to the optimal position. It might look better as time goes on

This is true and it does get better, but then very quickly gets topped up again.
Aah well, I will definitely be gently honest if she asks, but staying schtum otherwise. Maybe just a subtly raised eyebrow of my surprise, just because I can 😲

OP posts:
Ruthy45 · 21/02/2023 00:54

I'm booked in for botox in March but I keep going back and forth with it. I see the frozen look on people and don't think it looks the best but then I feel like I need a freshen up/boost after a stressful year. Still undecided.
If it was me I probably wouldn't tell her. She might like that look.

DivorcedAndDelighted · 21/02/2023 00:56

How about just opening up a conversation with her and asking, with genuine interest, about her treatments? To genuinely find out how she feels about it, rather than hinting. Eg "Tell me about Botox then; what do you think is the best way to use it? Are you going for celeb-smooth or do you want the natural look?"
It might become clear that she wants the frozen look, or she might ask your opinion.

Ilovehamandtoast · 21/02/2023 01:00

Tell her if she doesn't want to appear to frozen, to let it go.

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 21/02/2023 01:02

I'd say it to my best friend. I'd be more cautious with anyone else.

BrokenBonesStixStones · 21/02/2023 01:04

ElliF · 21/02/2023 00:06

You could tell her, but she probably wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow.

🤣🤣🤣 ^^

you can only get Botox prescribed every 12 weeks so there will be a limit to how much she can actually get. So it shouldn’t get any more severe than now.

fillers are different though, she can definitely build up really quick

Spongeboob · 21/02/2023 01:13

Ilovehamandtoast · 21/02/2023 01:00

Tell her if she doesn't want to appear to frozen, to let it go.

Aye, unless she wants to go into the unknown. Come on OP, show yourself. Don't get lost in the woods Grin

VeniVidiWeeWee · 21/02/2023 02:12

On a site that appears to be obsessed with safety, why does anyone voluntarily have themselves injected with, according to many sources, the most toxic substance on earth?

Ruthy45 · 21/02/2023 02:20

VeniVidiWeeWee · 21/02/2023 02:12

On a site that appears to be obsessed with safety, why does anyone voluntarily have themselves injected with, according to many sources, the most toxic substance on earth?

Wow! Thanks for this. I wasn't aware and will be cancelling my appointment. I've just had a quick google. Shocking really 🙈

catfunk · 21/02/2023 09:04

VeniVidiWeeWee · 21/02/2023 02:12

On a site that appears to be obsessed with safety, why does anyone voluntarily have themselves injected with, according to many sources, the most toxic substance on earth?

Because it's completely safe for use in this way and was tested rigorously before going to market. It's also been commonly used for 20+ years.

JamSandle · 21/02/2023 09:06

I wouldn't say anything.

Feefee00 · 21/02/2023 09:14

It wears off and it's expensive if it intially freezes it works a lot longer. So I might have 2 weeks of frozen forehead then it wears off slower and works out cheaper . Instead of putting in a small amount then top up then it wearing off quicker. Many people metabolise it quickly I'm one of those. No one's said anything about it, I don't really get an overly shiny forehead, I can frown just my forehead looks like one of the wrinkly dogs it has a lot of skin so the Botox relaxes it. I'm 29 though I also don't get headaches after having it so that's a nice bonus.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 21/02/2023 09:19

😂

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 21/02/2023 09:19

Oops. That was to the "wouldn't raise an eyebrow" comment.

EnjoyAGoodHorrorFilm · 21/02/2023 09:31

@ElliF 😂😂

alllllie · 21/02/2023 09:34

Say "Oh my god, you look so good right now – don't do a single thing more!"

(I stole this from someone else, can't claim credit)

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 21/02/2023 09:35

I think there must be a tactful way you could say what you think. Maybe wait until the subject comes up. Make it about someone else? "Do you think X celeb has had too much?"and discuss what is too much.

QueefQueen80s · 21/02/2023 09:41

Like with all things, in moderation they look good. It's when people go too far that they get the frozen plastic look.
I wouldn't say anything, it looks awful but she likes it so..

Tallulasdancingshoes · 21/02/2023 09:44

I wouldn’t just come out with it, but if asked, I would be honest.

ElliF · 21/02/2023 09:45

alllllie · 21/02/2023 09:34

Say "Oh my god, you look so good right now – don't do a single thing more!"

(I stole this from someone else, can't claim credit)

Or, ‘Wow! You haven’t change a bit. It’s like you were frozen in time. I am so jealous.’

Wellitjustgetsworse · 21/02/2023 09:47

I wouldn't. To be getting it done in the first place there's at least some element of insecurity so chances are even if she looks like she won't be offended she probably will be on a level and if not she may even assume you're jealous and trying to put her down. Again I don't know her but went through a phase of this in my early 20s with lip filler and Botox and people would say my face didn't move I had ten units for frown lines between my brows and 1mil of lip filler. I assumed they were being over the top or making fun. Looking back it was ridiculous I was doing it. 🙄

Now I have kids I won't touch the stuff as with lip fillers the first week or so you look like you've been in a fight. There is also the chance you are seeing her just after she has had stuff done when it is swollen or not settled yet.

Who knows but best to stay out. If she asks just say you think she looks great but you can't always read her expressions as much now don't say she looks frozen aka plastic 🤣

ElliF · 21/02/2023 09:49

VeniVidiWeeWee · 21/02/2023 02:12

On a site that appears to be obsessed with safety, why does anyone voluntarily have themselves injected with, according to many sources, the most toxic substance on earth?

Vanity. Stupidity. Ignorance. Narcissism. Depression. Fear. Loneliness. Pick your poison.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 21/02/2023 09:55

She may well be one of the posters on here who says 'I've been having botox for years and nobody can tell'...

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