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'Nicola Bulley's reputation 'destroyed' by police'

922 replies

MyrtIe · 16/02/2023 10:37

Article here

The points made about victim blaming and the police disclosing this information to cover themselves are spot on imo.

The usual gutter press are having a field day with this today.

What exactly was the point of it? What's it achieved, apart from compounding the heartache of her loved ones?

YABU - the police were right to divulge this sensitive information as it was relevant to the investigation

YANBU - there was absolutely no need to do so

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Notonthestairs · 16/02/2023 17:07

Her family liaised with the police to release information to stop others selling related stories about her. It was a choice - a horrible choice I am sure - to get ahead of yet more prurient reporting and speculation.

So are some of you deliberately criticising her family?

Or are you just ignoring their statement because it doesn't fit what you want?

ShinyHappyTits · 16/02/2023 17:08

Iam4eels · 16/02/2023 10:43

I was going to say the same thing.

All the armchair detectives treating it like a real life game of Cluedo have forced the police into disclosing information that would normally be kept private for the sake of the family.

CPS lawyer DH says this too. We don’t know what they do and armchair sleuths and that absolute media tart of a diving expert really aren’t helping.

MaryDerry · 16/02/2023 17:08

I think the police divulged the info with the family permission.
It may have been about to come out in the media via another source. So the police gave the context instead of a sleaze attack.
Police will have known about her history issues from the start. Not all is disclosed.

Or maybe the family and police used the term highly vulnerable to keep her disappearance in the news?

But folk have said horrific things since and the family just don't need it. A hard balance, they need public assistance but some of it is not helpful and some of it is despicable. And creating more problems.

LadyMary50 · 16/02/2023 17:10

IClaudine · 16/02/2023 16:51

The Home Office are apparantly now looking into why this information was given out.

Because the family wanted to stop the awful speculation and innuendo on SM.The family also stated that people were starting to sell stories about Nicola to the press,they supported the police in making the statement.

Uptownswirl · 16/02/2023 17:11

LadyMary50 · 16/02/2023 17:10

Because the family wanted to stop the awful speculation and innuendo on SM.The family also stated that people were starting to sell stories about Nicola to the press,they supported the police in making the statement.

The home office are at acting on behalf of the government remember so its in their best interests to be seen to be doing something, even if what they're doing is a complete waste of time.

Bookist · 16/02/2023 17:13

Uptownswirl · 16/02/2023 17:05

Because for some of us peri menopause has wreaked havoc on our mental health, and it's not an uncommon symptom either

My Mother suffered terribly during the peri menopause she was on suicide watch for months. It was harrowing to witness especially as she had no previous issues with her mental health. The most common age for a woman to kill herself is between the ages of 48 and 52 and I don't think it's any coincidence that the menopause commonly starts roughly around the age of 51. Post partum psychosis is very real and it definitely exists. Thousands of new Mothers are sectioned for their own safety because of it and it is caused by their hormones.

BrightPurple · 16/02/2023 17:13

I don’t know why the police have chosen to divulge this information, yesterday they stated that Nicola had ‘vulnerabilities’ but wouldn’t say what, why say it at all! Now they divulged what those vulnerabilities are! Bloody hell fire!

If she has wanted to go and hide somewhere this might have devastating repercussions!

Uptownswirl · 16/02/2023 17:16

From what I've read in the press I have no criticism of the police. I do have a LOT of criticism for the public, for social media, for the press, and for that professional search and rescue Diver man.

Netflix has a lot to answer for!

Uptownswirl · 16/02/2023 17:16

Bookist · 16/02/2023 17:13

My Mother suffered terribly during the peri menopause she was on suicide watch for months. It was harrowing to witness especially as she had no previous issues with her mental health. The most common age for a woman to kill herself is between the ages of 48 and 52 and I don't think it's any coincidence that the menopause commonly starts roughly around the age of 51. Post partum psychosis is very real and it definitely exists. Thousands of new Mothers are sectioned for their own safety because of it and it is caused by their hormones.

Bottom line is hormones kill. I wish medics would recognise this

aonbharr · 16/02/2023 17:17

They massively mismanaged this case, a total disgrace and then to throw in she was identified as high-risk and vulnerable and then EXPECTED everyone to say 'ah yes, ok' no further details required. Absolute utter morons.

Uptownswirl · 16/02/2023 17:18

aonbharr · 16/02/2023 17:17

They massively mismanaged this case, a total disgrace and then to throw in she was identified as high-risk and vulnerable and then EXPECTED everyone to say 'ah yes, ok' no further details required. Absolute utter morons.

Have they? Or have they simply not divulged the ins and Outs of the investigation to the public?

discobrain · 16/02/2023 17:19

The way the press treats women, is absolutely disgusting.

EtonMessy · 16/02/2023 17:20

BrightPurple · 16/02/2023 17:13

I don’t know why the police have chosen to divulge this information, yesterday they stated that Nicola had ‘vulnerabilities’ but wouldn’t say what, why say it at all! Now they divulged what those vulnerabilities are! Bloody hell fire!

If she has wanted to go and hide somewhere this might have devastating repercussions!

From the latest statement it sounds like some subhumans were selling stories about Nicola to the press so I imagine the police were forced to divulge this information before the press did.
It’s all so devastating for Nicola and her family and as they’ve asked for people to stop speculating on SM, I hope MNHQ put an end to the many threads discussing and speculating .

Whataplanker · 16/02/2023 17:22

There have (rightly) been many TV programmes, books, articles etc in recent years explaining the profound effect that menopause can have on women, there was even a suggestion that women be allowed menopause leave as the effect can be so significant on their life. I really don't see it is misogynistic or irrelevant to at least consider the effect on Nicola. Yes, it isn't usual for such private information to be released but when people are making wild speculation about what her vulnerability was, I can't see the police had much choice. They tried just saying she was vulnerable but that wasn't sufficient for the baying mob online.

Movinghouseatlast · 16/02/2023 17:23

chandellina · 16/02/2023 16:23

Many many women go through menopause with minimal effect and it doesn't define them in the least. Reducing someone to their fertility statusand suggesting that status caused some so far unknown actions leading to apparent tragedyseems totally patronising. Why not just say mental health issues and leave it at that? I've never heard a man described in such a way.

Because the symptoms of perimenopause and menopause ARE NOT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

The symptoms are caused by lack of the hormone oestrogen. Not all women get the same symptoms. And yes, the emotional symptoms can be extreme for some women. Not all, some.

I am on HRT. I didn't have mental health issues before medication cured me, I had lack of oestrogen

MichaelFabricantWig · 16/02/2023 17:28

EtonMessy · 16/02/2023 17:20

From the latest statement it sounds like some subhumans were selling stories about Nicola to the press so I imagine the police were forced to divulge this information before the press did.
It’s all so devastating for Nicola and her family and as they’ve asked for people to stop speculating on SM, I hope MNHQ put an end to the many threads discussing and speculating .

This is how it sounds doesn’t it, that there were all sorts ready to crawl out the woodwork and say god knows what about her, so this has been an attempt to manage it.

I don’t know why the police are getting such a kicking, I think they have made some mistakes but anything that would make much difference?

EasterIssland · 16/02/2023 17:30

CountryMusicHottie · 16/02/2023 16:20

Indeed.

This is disgusting. Poor Nicola and her family.

Seems tho like the police did reveal all this with the family allowing it and that there are some people close to the family wanting to sell this stories to the press for some cash. Seems like this Is why the police has said it to avoid others using Nicola to get some extra dirty cash on their hands. Yesteday I was disappointed with the police but today I understand why they did it

Whataplanker · 16/02/2023 17:34

It will only ruin her reputation if people make value judgements based on the information that has been shared. Do you think having issues with alcohol or menopause makes you a lesser person? No? Good. In that case her reputation and people's opinion of her will remain as it was before.

plumduck · 16/02/2023 17:35

Whataplanker · 16/02/2023 17:34

It will only ruin her reputation if people make value judgements based on the information that has been shared. Do you think having issues with alcohol or menopause makes you a lesser person? No? Good. In that case her reputation and people's opinion of her will remain as it was before.

Exactly

Porkandbeans1 · 16/02/2023 17:38

It's sad for her family but hopefully it will stop some of the ridiculous rumours.

I reported a number of posts on here made by posters pointing the finger at her husband and analysing his behaviour. I hope those people will be ashamed of those remarks but I doubt it.

As other have said it maybe better to release this information before the tabloids drag it all up anyway.

Uptownswirl · 16/02/2023 17:38

Whataplanker · 16/02/2023 17:34

It will only ruin her reputation if people make value judgements based on the information that has been shared. Do you think having issues with alcohol or menopause makes you a lesser person? No? Good. In that case her reputation and people's opinion of her will remain as it was before.

Exactly what I said. The only reputational damage being done is through the press and public lumping shame on the impact menopause has had on her.

It shows how low society has got really. Shaming a woman in need of support, dragging a family through the gutters in judgment, questioning the police without knowing the full facts, people jumping to the press for their 5 minutes of fame (seen another one cropped up today).

A real rethink is required. Be kind didn't last long did it.

cristinayangonceagain · 16/02/2023 17:43

@Uptownswirl Bekind lasted about five minutes

prh47bridge · 16/02/2023 17:49

cristinayangonceagain · 16/02/2023 17:43

@Uptownswirl Bekind lasted about five minutes

"Be kind" never lasts and is often pushed by people who have no intention of being kind themselves but just want to shut down others. They often fail to realise their own lack of kindness or try to blame their own unkind behaviour on others.

AlwaysLatte · 16/02/2023 17:52

The people getting involved, both on site and online, are stopping the professionals doing their job. Real time wasting and potentially damaging to evidence.

ancientgran · 16/02/2023 17:54

Have her family commented on the disclosures? I haven't seen anything but I've been a bit distracted with other stuff today. I heard people were trying to sell stories about her, maybe this was done to foil that plan.