'Nicola Bulley's reputation 'destroyed' by police'

[MyrtIe]

Article here

The points made about victim blaming and the police disclosing this information to cover themselves are spot on imo.

The usual gutter press are having a field day with this today.

What exactly was the point of it? What's it achieved, apart from compounding the heartache of her loved ones?

YABU - the police were right to divulge this sensitive information as it was relevant to the investigation

YANBU - there was absolutely no need to do so

Also lots of ignorance around addiction, what a surprise.

The problem is that is there is even a small chance she has gone missing of her own accord, it will make it much harder to find the strength to come back given all of the coverage. It feels like too much was released to the press in that respect.

The other problem is if there had been a little bit more honesty about vulnerabilities from the start, the abduction theories wouldn’t have taken hold in the same way online. The narrative has been happy and healthy mum who wouldn’t have gone off but unfortunately given the situation, the likelihood of her self-harming in some way (either accidental or deliberate) is just significantly more likely. The whole thing is just desperately sad.

Both of those things may be relevant, but that doesn't mean the public have a right to know imo.

They are private and should only be disclosed on a need to know basis. The people who are treating this like a game of fucking Cluedo don't need to know.

I meant to say I could not bring myself to follow every detail and nuance about Nicola. I just pray for everybody concerned, Nicola, her family, friends, and including the police. Being a Police Diver is an exceptional job. I could never do it. I admire them as I admire the Police, especially those who go to horrific scenes and have to deal with the family afterwards. It has happened to me twice and both times the Police concerned were wonderful.
I won't come back to this thread, I don't think I can learn anything more or give any more. Thank you to those who gave helpful information and advice.
But please let us pray for all of the people concerned. I am sure many of you are already.

What social media are people reading to see all of these vile things? I presume people go hunting because I use MN, Instagram and Twitter and haven't seen anything. You can search the hashtag of course.

I don't think that MN should stop allowing threads where the motives of the police are questioned, no
I agree to an extent. But they never stop there. Every thread descends into speculation, lunacy & misinformation, and inter alia, fuels the furore.

There’s really a lot of power in ignoring it all.

I watch Sky News which is where I’ve been following the story and I’ve only posted on here because I was horrified that this information had been revealed about her and I spotted the thread.

...but you re just speculating on a one off off occasion... & do not know why the Police were called, by whom or when they were called.... no one knows aside from the Police and family.

But i can see this is now the next thing to try and get the Police to release more info on.

It’s misogynistic. In my opinion it’s a clap back from the police who have been heavily criticised.

BBC News - Nicola Bulley: Police face backlash over missing woman's health details
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-64661487

Others have questioned this and quite rightly so.

13 threads, more than 10,500 posts. Meanwhile the actor Julian Sands has been missing for over a month in the San Gabriel mountains in the States, and his disappearance resulted in two threads on MN, and a total of 25 posts (the last of which said "I'd forgotten he was missing").

christ, so you think because the police were asked an awkward question they had to answer?

It's not that they 'had' to answer. It's that the baying, hysterical mob wouldn't STFU & just opened a new line of 'what do they mean?'

The reality is that the search will have to be wound down, to an extent, from the massive manpower currently being deployed. The lunatics are going to accuse the police of abandoning Nicola, failing to do their duty.

They were trying to balance giving the public relevant information with privacy around the case, and also trying to manage the ridiculous widespread speculation (the gloves, red van, empty house, murderer on the loose 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️)

I agree the police didn’t have to answer. They should have ignored it all. Their own investigation had been looked over by others within the force and deemed to be doing all the right things. That was enough.

Those questioning the police seemed mostly ignorant, thick gossips or those with issues in their own lives and these sorts of things fill a void for them. The problem isn’t going to go away, these people have such a voice now with social media. It’s very worrying that they now seem to affect police investigations.

I don’t know how to vote as it’s hard to know full reasons for what is being released

I’m not surprised people are discussing it, it’s being covered by commentators on radio too. Mn is part of general discussion.

I don’t think the police are remotely baffled. They are fairly positive she’s went in the water knowing the breadth of the issues. The issue is the public refuse to accept it as a lead Case, which is fair due to shit communication .

the issue has really been one of poor communication. Peter Faulding did a search thinking she’d fallen in. No one told him there were other issues at play. Including her partner. If there was a potential she went in on purpose, or had been drinking that search would have been very different.

the police told everyone she’d went in, no criminal activity with no explanation as to why, not even to say she was vulnerable and they then failed to find her, which made every one ask why they thought that. They then refused to expand on any other part of rhe investigation, leaving everyone to believe fuck all was being done.

paul and Emma then went full sail ahead informing the public she wasn’t in the water, she was very happy and would never leave her girls. That rhe police had fucked up; Again raising the publics concern as she still wasn’t found. And everyone thought nothing else was really being done.

peter Faulding was told she’d fallen in and drowned in 12 inches of slow moving water, then been carried away. Which everyone knew is beyond unlikely. So he said so.

If he’d been told she’d maybe been drinking or suicidal he’d have looked at other points in the river which would have been more of a risk.

it’s the constant misinformation that’s caused this utter shitstorm. If the police had been cleare from the start and her partner and Emma not so gung ho about presenting a well balanced women who would never leave it would never have occurred.

if the police had said

we are extensively investigating all possible outcomes. We have factual reason to believe Emma was High risk and vulnerable so have immediately deployed exhaustive search personnel and equipment to find her, whilst undertaking extensive investigations into all potential outcomes, …it would have been very different.

but they didn’t, sue riley came on and told the public no third party, it wasn’t criminal, she was in the water. End of. And the whole sorry saga kicked off.

...or the Turkey earth quake which got less than 10 pages.... or the Ukraine war... which has completely slipped from MN's mind.

But a bit of juicy gossip... bring it on!

Which is a shame, because we should never stop holding the police to account where necessary.

If people wish to speculate over the case (as I've said repeatedly, that's not the point of this thread) they should go elsewhere or better still, not do so at all.

Right from the word go the police have said they didn't believe there was any criminal involvement. Sadly I think she is no longer alive.

You're missing the point though, the police have good reason to believe she hasn't left that park area she was in....

Anyway, we really shouldn't be speculating. I just hope that actually, something like your suggestion is actually the case and that she's still alive. Poor woman

Absolutely. It was felt by many that the police knew more than they were letting on, and so the police were criticised for it.

The police have now released the (IMO quite relevant information, and are now being criticised for doing it.

They can’t win.

I just feel so sorry for Nicola and her family having all of their private life exposed to the world.
I remember having an appalling menopause at 45 and at one stage disappeared for a week. I went off in my car, slept in it near some woods and got horribly drunk for a few nights, then spent a couple of days with a friend and got horribly drunk. My husband at the time had no idea where I was (no kids at home). I just couldn't stand work, my husband or my life. For some people the menopause can be devastating.
I hope to God Nicola has done something similar and will eventually go home.
I can't imagine how I would have felt if the entire country had been informed about my problems.

The fact that her dog stayed in the area points to the fact that she did not leave that area through the gate. And if she walked off her dog would have followed her. The dog could have crawled under the side fence or gone over the sty. But Willow stayed in the area worried.

That sounds awful, I hope you feel better now. The menopause can be hell and I'm not sure everyone understands that

Absolutely agree

I really do not ever think my ovarian reserve is relevant to international news.