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'Nicola Bulley's reputation 'destroyed' by police'

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MyrtIe · 16/02/2023 10:37

Article here

The points made about victim blaming and the police disclosing this information to cover themselves are spot on imo.

The usual gutter press are having a field day with this today.

What exactly was the point of it? What's it achieved, apart from compounding the heartache of her loved ones?

YABU - the police were right to divulge this sensitive information as it was relevant to the investigation

YANBU - there was absolutely no need to do so

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Bigpinktrain · 16/02/2023 10:39

My feeling is that it was mentioned out of spite for the underwater search expert who has been saying how unlikely it is that she is in the water, a direct contradiction of what they think has happened.
They are trying to paint a picture of her being unstable I think. It’s really disgusting

JackiePlace · 16/02/2023 10:41

It seems to me that it might be relevant.

BentleyRhythmAce · 16/02/2023 10:42

It's just like the murder of Emma Pattison: something horrible happened to a woman, it must be somehow her fault. Too hormonal, too successful, too female.

Sirzy · 16/02/2023 10:42

I think the way people kept trying to undermine the police investigation and say they where wrong when they didn’t know all the details is what lead to them having to release more information than they otherwise wanted to. I think the media/social media pressure is what led to them having to disclose.

CaponeOnTax · 16/02/2023 10:42

Absolutely abhorrent sexism. Someone should lose their job for that.

Yesterdays press conference was a massive error. The police look dreadful at every turn.

Poor friends and family of Nicola Bulley now have her ‘ALCOHOL ISSUES’ across the front pages - for what?

Iam4eels · 16/02/2023 10:43

Sirzy · 16/02/2023 10:42

I think the way people kept trying to undermine the police investigation and say they where wrong when they didn’t know all the details is what lead to them having to release more information than they otherwise wanted to. I think the media/social media pressure is what led to them having to disclose.

I was going to say the same thing.

All the armchair detectives treating it like a real life game of Cluedo have forced the police into disclosing information that would normally be kept private for the sake of the family.

bellac11 · 16/02/2023 10:44

If she did have alcohol issues its very relevant.

And its not sexist to disclose that, that comment above is really quite bizarre?

MyrtIe · 16/02/2023 10:44

Sirzy · 16/02/2023 10:42

I think the way people kept trying to undermine the police investigation and say they where wrong when they didn’t know all the details is what lead to them having to release more information than they otherwise wanted to. I think the media/social media pressure is what led to them having to disclose.

So covering themselves, then, as it says in the article.

Police should be above bowing to pressure from social media, surely?

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HoleyShit · 16/02/2023 10:44

Surely the family had to give the green light before the police released that information though?

Dogsgottabone · 16/02/2023 10:44

Absolutely awful to do this.

That information was private and simply disclosed to improve the reputation of the police.

noblegiraffe · 16/02/2023 10:45

The batshit armchair detectives need to shut the fuck up and let the police get on with their jobs.

Baying because they police didn’t disclose that she was vulnerable, baying because they did. Demanding details then acting horrified when the details are given. Oh we didn’t mean it.

FFS get a new hobby. Buy an Agatha Christie. Leave the family alone.

Hohohoholidays · 16/02/2023 10:45

The only thing I wondered is do they think she had been drinking that morning and might explain why she may have drowned more easily? (which is what they believe has happened to her) Otherwise I agree, it is a gross overshare of personal information that is irrelevant

RunningFromInsanity · 16/02/2023 10:45

I think the fact that a MH response car was called to her property the week before she went missing, and her previous struggles, are quite relevant and definitely explain why the Police are continuing the assumption that she may have harmed herself.

It’s certainly made me reconsider what happened.

Beansontoast45 · 16/02/2023 10:45

I don’t think in normal circumstances that information should be disclosed, but in this case I think it is sort of relevant and explains why the police have focused on the river so much and I think it will stop the stories about her husband/friends all being involved which are causing massive issues.

The police have had groups of people turning up to search for her, believing that they are not doing their job properly and the rumours and stories are really out of hand.

Unfortunately I think Nicola has chose to disappear. Hopefully just for some time out, probably never expecting to get this sort of attention. I don’t think she’s in the river.

User98866 · 16/02/2023 10:46

Sirzy · 16/02/2023 10:42

I think the way people kept trying to undermine the police investigation and say they where wrong when they didn’t know all the details is what lead to them having to release more information than they otherwise wanted to. I think the media/social media pressure is what led to them having to disclose.

All could have been avoided if they’d said at the time ‘we have concerns for this woman who is vulnerable’ or whatever they say. Why has her partner courted the press for 2 weeks (the interviews, the tv specials) and let Faulding all over it not knowing the full facts. I understand he may not have wanted it to come out but don’t engage with the media then! Why publicly disagree with the police? The whole thing is so so weird. Police have been poor, comms shocking, public shocking, friends and family behaviour makes little sense. What an awful mess. Her poor girls.

MyrtIe · 16/02/2023 10:46

bellac11 · 16/02/2023 10:44

If she did have alcohol issues its very relevant.

And its not sexist to disclose that, that comment above is really quite bizarre?

Surely it would have been more relevant immediately after she went missing? Why wait until now?

And I agree with the points about sexism.

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LifeunderMarrs · 16/02/2023 10:46

Sirzy · 16/02/2023 10:42

I think the way people kept trying to undermine the police investigation and say they where wrong when they didn’t know all the details is what lead to them having to release more information than they otherwise wanted to. I think the media/social media pressure is what led to them having to disclose.

This is what I thought - they said the social media frenzy around the case was unprecedented and damaging to her family.

I assumed they revealed the details about her alcoholism after agreement from the family, as it takes the intense spotlight off them.

Sistanotcista · 16/02/2023 10:46

bellac11 · 16/02/2023 10:44

If she did have alcohol issues its very relevant.

And its not sexist to disclose that, that comment above is really quite bizarre?

But it is sexist to bandy her struggles with menopause about. Not relevant, not necessary.

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Sirzy · 16/02/2023 10:47

MyrtIe · 16/02/2023 10:44

So covering themselves, then, as it says in the article.

Police should be above bowing to pressure from social media, surely?

But when the pressure from outside is impacting on their investigation what are they supposed to do?

in this case a not insignificant amount of people with nothing to do with this case have made things worse for everyone involved. It shows social media at its worst with everyone thinking they are an expert.

bellac11 · 16/02/2023 10:48

MyrtIe · 16/02/2023 10:46

Surely it would have been more relevant immediately after she went missing? Why wait until now?

And I agree with the points about sexism.

It only needs disclosing now because people seemed to think they knew/know what happened. If she was vulnerable either to more risk taking behaviour/clumsy behaviour or self harm then they may have been working to that theory already, hence their actions

Obviously I dont know if she was vulnerable or how vulnerable or whether she was struggling with alcohol

gold22 · 16/02/2023 10:49

Sirzy · 16/02/2023 10:42

I think the way people kept trying to undermine the police investigation and say they where wrong when they didn’t know all the details is what lead to them having to release more information than they otherwise wanted to. I think the media/social media pressure is what led to them having to disclose.

Agree - the police can't win in my opinion, criticised for not revealing what they know and now criticised for realising it! Not sure why the underwater search guy expected to be privy to all info when he forced himself in to the investigation in the first place

ShesThunderstorms · 16/02/2023 10:49

The mention of her struggles with the menopause? Seriously? Why on earth would that part be relevant at all? That's way too personal to share and of no help to the investigation, surely?

helpfulperson · 16/02/2023 10:49

I also think there is an element for the police of managing expectations. Many women, men and children are reported missing everyday. They don't respond to them all as immediately as they did in this case because usually there is a good explanation and they reappear shortly afterwards. They used the term vulnerability to explain why this case got an instant response but the media wouldn't leave it there and speculated what that meant.

BentleyRhythmAce · 16/02/2023 10:49

She got her children up, dressed and at school on time, she attended a work meeting and walked her dog. She wasn't drunk and incapable.

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