'Nicola Bulley's reputation 'destroyed' by police'

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The points made about victim blaming and the police disclosing this information to cover themselves are spot on imo.

The usual gutter press are having a field day with this today.

What exactly was the point of it? What's it achieved, apart from compounding the heartache of her loved ones?

YABU - the police were right to divulge this sensitive information as it was relevant to the investigation

YANBU - there was absolutely no need to do so

They needed to search the water.

They will do a fingertip search of the surrounding areas - easy across a field, but if the water falls into the search area, this will need to be done too. Searching under water takes a lot longer to do it properly

A woman has gone missing out of thin air and needs to be found. How is the amount she drinks relevant to that?

It's incredibly relevant and it would be just as relevant if she was male.

If she's vulnerable (for whatever reason) that puts a whole new spin on the situation and what her mindset may have been like at the time.

Only the official people investigating need to know that she has alcohol problems. No purpose is served by telling Joe Public apart from prurience.

I too think yesterdays choice of words used by police was disgusting, damaging to her reputation. Not impressed by police. Would have preferred them to say nothing.

It doesnt matter what the Police do.

The family want her back, it doesnt look like she is coming back.
The family are not going to be happy regardless.

And by playing it all out in the media this is what happens. The media just wants the clicks.

The criticism of the Poloce has been unjustified. They are trying to investigate but instead are spending time getting rid of tourists and answering armchair sleuths questions.

It is so fucking easy to accuse anyone of being an alcoholic.

They can[t even deny it. Horrendous.

If she’s disappeared of her own accord it’s pretty abhorrent to sit back and watch so many resources go into finding you and for your family and friends watch the police dredge the river for your body

Depends on the reasons for it really doesn't it.

This really gives her no way back if she is lying low out there.

Totally unnecessary invasion of privacy as was the disclosure of information about Emma Pattison, both invite victim blaming.

Haven't the mumsnet bosses made it clear that people need to post on one thread about this case and stop making threads about it? Using the voting buttons for a poll is the most distasteful thing I've seen in a while on here. This is a woman's life

Get a hobby or something instead of picking over the bones of this woman. Awful.

To be honest if it was a man I think they would have mentioned it earlier- I think it's so that people can see why they think as they do . Personally I don't think it's relevant but I guess they are feeling public and media pressure

There are countless people doing behaviour analysis videos on her partner and her friends, speculating about how they're involved and extrapolating it to describe all the potential ways they could have gotten rid of her and why. There are people out tramping around the local area finding "clues" and again speculating on them. All the sticky beaks have forced the police hand on this one.

Its not an invasions of privacy if it leads to her being found
Its getting desperate to find her now and if this leads to more people looking out for her in different locations - the better

Spot on. I’ve been open mouthed reading some of the posts here lately.

The grief vultures and those who seem to view this as entertainment/a puzzle to solve are utterly disgraceful, as they are whenever there's a case like this one (and incidentally this isn't a thread for ghoulish speculation).

However the police don't usually divulge sensitive information about cases just because some armchair Miss Marples on social media think they know better than them. Usually the police keep quiet and just get on with the job. Which is exactly what you'd expect them to do.

As a PP said, this information is only relevant to the police themselves - it's not relevant to the armchair sleuths and speculators. There was absolutely no need to divulge it other than to cover themselves.

Because if she had been drinking she could have had an accident next to the river. If she was trying to sober up and suffering alcohol withdrawal she could have blacked out or had hallucinations or a severe depressive episode.

Addiction is a medical condition that makes you vulnerable. Menopause has been getting a lot of press recently about how devastating it can be for some women. No one should judge her anymore than if she was diabetic or epileptic. The press are having a field day but everyone really needs to back off and leave the police to it.

Every single person who speculated about it perhaps being her husband and him being quiet, not at the original press conference, suspected black eye etc needs to realise this is on them.

It went from lovely marriage, two beautiful children, perfect home life to he could have killed her. Well she had issues and those didn't need to be disclosed to undermine the pretence of their relationship and her mental health until all the batshit crazy ideas about him hurting her came out by people like the person on here saying they'd start a new thread everyday until she was found.

My own opinion on this is that because she was deemed "vulnerable" without further context initially, people may have been speculating increasingly openly that "vulnerable" meant that she was subject to possible domestic abuse or similar and were casting aspersions on her partner and family. They therefore decided to state what exactly was meant by "vulnerable" to try and put a stop to that sort of talk.

The Police would not have made such a revelation without the consent and support of the family.

It's so desperately sad for all involved.

Agree.

They have only just released this weeks after the fact.

It's in response to the MSM and SM being full of them being accused of not reacting.

So they've said they reacted immediately because she was vulnerable.

It hasn't changed how I feel about the case or her or her family.

I think it says more about people who feel differently than it does about a woman suffering like many do.

I'm not picking over anything.

I'm making the point that the police shouldn't divulge sensitive information about someone when there's absolutely no need.

That would apply to anyone.

The police are a disgrace. They should not bow to pressure from people wanting to know more. They've sacrificed a missing woman's reputation to save their own. They need to find the damn body.

I don’t disagree with your comments re menopause impacting mental health - but I’m really struggling to understand why the police felt it necessary to release that level of information to the general public.

I think a large part of the problem is that people seem to think they are somehow entitled to know all of the details. That their interest is both legitimate and should be recognised and fed by the authorities.

the Police were quite wrong to release such personal details, unless to aid a public appeal, but those who have baited them into doing so share the blame.

What should be a private and painful matter is now out there in all its gory detail for vultures to pick over. A pox on them all.

She could have turned up at an anonymous alcohol counselling service and the staff there had't realised it was her. Or a homeless feeding point.

If the public and support services know she has vulnerabilities - it widens the the people looking

My point is that the police need to put the same effort into finding her regardless of whether she drinks too much. Yes the information is relevant to them in the course of their investigations, but how is it relevant to the general public?

Give over. Alcoholism and mental health issues caused by menopause are real factors that could have been involved in her disappearance. Stop shouting misogyny and start looking at this objectively... there could be a very real correlation with what's happened.

Absolutely fucking disgusting.

There was no need to go into detail. If she did fuck off of her own accord, she's even less fucking likely to show up now.

I hope Lancs police get dragged over the coals for their handling of this entire case.