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To wonder why this missing girl hasn't been in the news?

106 replies

BorisJohnsonsHair · 15/02/2023 21:05

news.sky.com/story/mariama-kallon-police-launch-appeal-to-find-13-year-old-girl-missing-from-home-in-london-12811846

Really hope she's found soon

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Whataretheodds · 16/02/2023 08:06

she's run away before and no harm has come to her.

Naive to think she hasn't come to any harm. Someone is feeding, clothing and sheltering her. It may be someone with pure intentions but it may not be. I really hope it's the former.

Fuckityfuckfuck123 · 16/02/2023 08:18

This case not getting huge amounts of media attention is because teenagers run away all the time. It doesn't mean there won't be a concerted effort locally to find her. The likelihood of numerous press releases goes down the more she's known to take flight.

However, SS probably needs to be involved quite heavily, and see why she's running away, is home life really bad, or is she being taken by someone? Where is she getting the changes of clothes mentioned up thread? If there's someone in a position to provide her with fresh clothing, why are they not someone who the parents are aware of her being with?

My sister kept running away from home as a young teen. She was running away from a bad home life, but also meeting men in their 30s/40s/50s and 60s. Staying at their homes or going to hotels with them. So she was often eating and clean.

One particular time, the search was ongoing with the police in our county, but she was the other side of the country, having been picked up by a man in his 40s, and his sons, who were apparently told that she was their new mum... apparently the eldest of the boys was 11 and she was only 14 herself.

This girl needs intervention once she's found.

NotAnotherBathBomb · 16/02/2023 08:20

Heard it on BBC local news this morning and yesterday, HTH.

IDontWantToBeAPie · 16/02/2023 08:26

There are many children who run away/ go missing a fair amount and return home a lot. It's the suspicious/ out of character/ suspected kidnapping ones that become big news.

I hope she's Ok

lapasion · 16/02/2023 08:42

Having worked in the press, publicity from the police would be the key here. Unfortunately, nowadays journalists are expected to churn out a steady stream of content and it doesn’t leave an awful lot of time for investigating cases on your own. Unless the police issue an appeal, or the family approach the news outlet looking for publicity, it’s unlikely to be turned into a story. The police deal with a lot of missing people cases and sadly I just don’t think this is a priority for them. Occasionally, you also get cases where the police are reluctant to publicise details straight away too, as it’s an ongoing investigation. It can be complicated. I hope this poor girl is found soon and can get some help.

NotAnotherBathBomb · 16/02/2023 10:11

lapasion · 16/02/2023 08:42

Having worked in the press, publicity from the police would be the key here. Unfortunately, nowadays journalists are expected to churn out a steady stream of content and it doesn’t leave an awful lot of time for investigating cases on your own. Unless the police issue an appeal, or the family approach the news outlet looking for publicity, it’s unlikely to be turned into a story. The police deal with a lot of missing people cases and sadly I just don’t think this is a priority for them. Occasionally, you also get cases where the police are reluctant to publicise details straight away too, as it’s an ongoing investigation. It can be complicated. I hope this poor girl is found soon and can get some help.

Police publicity is an interesting one. Why they have chosen to make a certain story national news when they knew all along that there were issues and were called out to the house a few weeks before...why does this troubled person get so much attention and not another? It does make you wonder

Choconut · 16/02/2023 10:34

NotAnotherBathBomb · 16/02/2023 10:11

Police publicity is an interesting one. Why they have chosen to make a certain story national news when they knew all along that there were issues and were called out to the house a few weeks before...why does this troubled person get so much attention and not another? It does make you wonder

Because there's a good chance she may have drowned or been abducted. Poor Mariama needs help and support but she's been seen so they know she's not dead or been abducted.

Choconut · 16/02/2023 10:34

Lostthefairytale · 16/02/2023 06:15

It is possible to accept that there are reporting biases and racism within the media without accepting that this is an example if it. By arguing about these two specific cases you invalidate the racism allegation because the cases are so different in so many ways. Lots of people live in a bubble and don't realise how many vulnerable children are missing at anyone time. For me the bias in these cases is more related to class although race definitely has an element. I'm surprised this case is getting any national press at all because the situation isn't unusual and national press is unlikely to help as she seems likely to have stayed within her local area.

This.

NotAnotherBathBomb · 16/02/2023 10:47

Choconut · 16/02/2023 10:34

Because there's a good chance she may have drowned or been abducted. Poor Mariama needs help and support but she's been seen so they know she's not dead or been abducted.

No there isn’t a ‘good chance’ she’s been abducted. Police have said time and time again that they suspect no third party involvement. She had alcohol issues and police were called to her home 2 weeks prior. Sounds like she had ‘issues’ much as this missing girl. The girl may even have been abducted?

And the expert who was searching the river said themselves they did not believe that she had fallen in.

bellac11 · 16/02/2023 15:29

Quveas · 15/02/2023 22:20

Unlike a missing 45 year old who is white, blonde, middle class from a na-ice area, and who has 10+ threads slobbering over her on this site alone? Splashing her business all over the news for the general public to salivate over hasn't stopped anyone, has it? I think a 13 year old deserves as much. Or isn't she the right kind of girl?

Just when I think this site can't plumb the depths any further, it just keeps on giving...

Sounds like you dont know the protocols for working with missing children and the reporting around that. You need to have a certain risk level for the young person in terms of the missing episode, once that is reached, the parent/corporate parent has to give permission for a national alert or press release.

When we generally know that the young person is around and about or have suspicions about where they might be, its not necessary to do a release, sometimes if it goes on too long you do a release to flush out people that might be harbouring the young person, sometimes you dont do a release at all. The child being missing doesnt necessarily mean they're not in touch with their parent or social worker. There are a myriad of factors to consider.

Castleontheisland · 16/02/2023 15:34

Poor girl! Is it really the bloody papers havent picked up this beautiful girl who has gone missing because she is black? Fu@king shocking if it is!! Come on papers! Find this girl! Bloody shocking all of you paper reporters/editor's etc!!

MarshaMelrose · 16/02/2023 15:43

Castleontheisland · 16/02/2023 15:34

Poor girl! Is it really the bloody papers havent picked up this beautiful girl who has gone missing because she is black? Fu@king shocking if it is!! Come on papers! Find this girl! Bloody shocking all of you paper reporters/editor's etc!!

A 14yo boy has gone missing round us. He dumped his school books and his school tie behind a pub bench and disappeared. It's not the first time. I don't know if he's handsome - is that relevant? He isn't in any national newspapers. He's white. So maybe repeated runaways are just generally not in the newspapers, regardless of colour.
Let's face it, if all runaways were put in newspapers, the public would be overwhelmed and the cases where there is serious concern for their life and public awareness was needed would be ignored through fatigue.

user40643 · 16/02/2023 16:25

Whataboutery again ✅

There's a white schoolboy that's gone missing so racism can't possible exist

Nimbostratus100 · 16/02/2023 17:01

there will be around 80 thousand children who went missing in the uk in the last year.

There will be around quarter of a million incidents of running away.

The overwhelming majority are white

The overwhelming majority are not in the news

People who are trying to make something of this just dont really have any idea of the reality

|I started tried to start a thread in feminism about what we can do for these girls ( specifically talking about girls, as they have a different overall set of vulnerabilities than boys - but not to exclude helping boys avoid the same traps

If you have anything constructive to suggest, lets so that please, instead of this false, artificial point scoring exercise which is just stirring up resentment, because of trying to make this particular case something it isnt.

MarshaMelrose · 16/02/2023 17:07

user40643 · 16/02/2023 16:25

Whataboutery again ✅

There's a white schoolboy that's gone missing so racism can't possible exist

I've never said in any post on MN that racism doesn't exist. But you can't automatically draw racism from the press not covering a black girl persistently running away. Because the press don't cover runaways in general, regardless of colour.

user40643 · 16/02/2023 17:18

The overwhelming majority are white

Because the majority of the UK are white.

'Black people accounted for 14% of all cases in England and Wales during the last financial year, despite representing only 3% of the population'

user40643 · 16/02/2023 17:20

I've never said in any post on MN that racism doesn't exist.

So once you except missing white people also have white privilege and gain more attention than missing black people you can stop turning a thread about a missing black girl into a thread about missing white people.

WillBeAbsolutelyFine · 16/02/2023 17:28

I didn't see your link so I don't know the child but my question is why her and not the other missing children? Why one woman and not the other? Why one man or one dog or one family and not others....

Basically there will always be missing people and for whatever reason, only a few can ever be heard about by strangers.

Nimbostratus100 · 16/02/2023 17:30

user40643 · 16/02/2023 17:18

The overwhelming majority are white

Because the majority of the UK are white.

'Black people accounted for 14% of all cases in England and Wales during the last financial year, despite representing only 3% of the population'

can we just stop this, it is so silly, I am closely involved with children such as this, and this is is just attempting to point score by people who are just dredging up stats without context, knowledge, understanding or appreciation.

Huge numbers of girls are trafficked into the UK from Africa, for example, from Nigeria, huge numbers of boys are trafficked into the UK from Asia, for example , from vietnam. I have taken into my home both freed child slaves from Nigeria, and from Vietnam, ( Vietnam, multiple times)

The fact that there are a large number of children of vietnamese descent missing in the UK that are not in the news is a factor of where international crime syndicates are set up. The fact that there are a large number of Children of Nigerian origin missing in the UK is a factor of again, where international slavery, and trafficking syndicates are set up

Waving these statistics around and trying to say this is evidence of racism does a huge disservice to anyone in the UK attempting to monitor or combat genuine racism, and is just getting peoples backs up and causing division for no reason, beyond enjoying some sort of imagined moral superiority and revelling in some sort of anti-priviledge

Again

|If we are concerned about missing girls

about 80 thousand in the last year - the vast majority white, inspite of the massive trafficking issues, a quarter of a million runaway incidents, the overwhelming majority white, in spite of the massive trafficking problems...

Lets think about what we can do Constructively

user40643 · 16/02/2023 17:32

@Nimbostratus100 What's silly about stating facts about missing black people on a thread about a missing black person?

Raquelos · 16/02/2023 17:38

user40643 · 15/02/2023 22:56

Because she's black, she's not as important to society as a white woman unfortunately.
You'll get posters trying to divert it, "she is in the news" but it's racism. Pure and simple.

It's not pure and simple though is it? there are a bunch of other factors as well as race many of which have been pointed out...

No one should be disputing that race is a factor in whether the press picks up some stories over others, but to try and make it the only factor just isn't very credible and allows the conversation to be diverted away from why it is a factor AT ALL. (imo obvs)

MarshaMelrose · 16/02/2023 17:41

So once you except missing white people also have white privilege and gain more attention than missing black people you can stop turning a thread about a missing black girl into a thread about missing white people.

I'm not turning a thread into anything. I responded to a poster saying it's awful if editors aren't publishing this because the child is black. I'm saying practically all runaways aren't reported on regardless of colour.
Nicola Bulley has received tons of publicity - which has not all been great for the family. There is a white man who as disappeared in very similar circumstances, next to a canal, just about 60 miles away from Nicola Bulley. He has got no national coverage. I can't even remember his name.
Not everything makes the papers, and if it doesn't, it's not automatically for racist reasons.