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To want some of whatever Lizz Truss is on?

101 replies

BarrelOfOtters · 06/02/2023 07:12

That confidence and absolute belief that she’s right and no one is wrong. It’s not a v female thing and I have to a tiny bit admire her for it. She’s and her party are knobs at the mo obviously,

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trythisforsize · 06/02/2023 22:31

I caught her doing an angry micro expression directed at an EU leader behind his back just because he didn't notice her trying to make small talk during a news item.

Like that tight lipped expression people do when they're about to punch someone.

Shame I can't post the clip here.

The expression summed her up.

She's nasty.

topcat2014 · 06/02/2023 22:36

I'm a tory member and saw her at the hustings. Absolutely barking..

Mind you I joined a few years ago to vote against Boris Johnson and look how that went.

JoonT · 06/02/2023 22:40

You could definitely make a case for screening PMs and Presidents. It’s crazy that we don’t, actually. Before you can be PM, you ought to pass certain tests. For a start, you ought to have a very high IQ. You should also be screened by a top class psychiatrist. I bet Truss would be diagnosed as a “delusional narcissist,” or something like that.

You could even make the case for our PM always being an Oxford or Cambridge graduate. Everybody loves to run the U.K. down, but I’m grateful to live in a country whose leaders almost always went to Oxford. Right now, we have a PM and chancellor who both got firsts at Oxford, one of the oldest and greatest universities in the world. Thanks god! Because the alternative would almost certainly be somebody like Donald Trump.

007DoubleOSeven · 06/02/2023 22:44

You could even make the case for our PM always being an Oxford or Cambridge graduate. Everybody loves to run the U.K. down, but I’m grateful to live in a country whose leaders almost always went to Oxford. Right now, we have a PM and chancellor who both got firsts at Oxford, one of the oldest and greatest universities in the world.

Um...no.

SparkleBrows · 06/02/2023 22:47

JoonT · 06/02/2023 22:40

You could definitely make a case for screening PMs and Presidents. It’s crazy that we don’t, actually. Before you can be PM, you ought to pass certain tests. For a start, you ought to have a very high IQ. You should also be screened by a top class psychiatrist. I bet Truss would be diagnosed as a “delusional narcissist,” or something like that.

You could even make the case for our PM always being an Oxford or Cambridge graduate. Everybody loves to run the U.K. down, but I’m grateful to live in a country whose leaders almost always went to Oxford. Right now, we have a PM and chancellor who both got firsts at Oxford, one of the oldest and greatest universities in the world. Thanks god! Because the alternative would almost certainly be somebody like Donald Trump.

Umm didn't Truss graduate from Oxford?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 06/02/2023 22:48

JoonT · 06/02/2023 22:40

You could definitely make a case for screening PMs and Presidents. It’s crazy that we don’t, actually. Before you can be PM, you ought to pass certain tests. For a start, you ought to have a very high IQ. You should also be screened by a top class psychiatrist. I bet Truss would be diagnosed as a “delusional narcissist,” or something like that.

You could even make the case for our PM always being an Oxford or Cambridge graduate. Everybody loves to run the U.K. down, but I’m grateful to live in a country whose leaders almost always went to Oxford. Right now, we have a PM and chancellor who both got firsts at Oxford, one of the oldest and greatest universities in the world. Thanks god! Because the alternative would almost certainly be somebody like Donald Trump.

As an Oxbridge graduate myself, I think it's an absurd idea to suggest that our PMs should only have studied at one of those two institutions. The evidence to date clearly demonstrates that an Oxbridge education offers no guarantee that anyone will actually be any good at the job - I mean, the plethora of Oxford educated PMs has hardly been working for the country, has it?! We would be excluding so much potential talent!

Of course, we want people who are intelligent, but let's not reduce that to Oxbridge/non-Oxbridge, and let's not pretend that academic ability is the only quality that's needed to make a good PM. There is so much more.

Psychological screening would be interesting though...

007DoubleOSeven · 06/02/2023 22:53

And moral aptitude

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/02/2023 22:56

Loads would fail a Commonsense test.

CPL593H · 06/02/2023 22:58

The Oxbridge thing.

Churchill didn't go to either.

Scrambledcrumpets · 06/02/2023 23:00

JoonT · 06/02/2023 22:40

You could definitely make a case for screening PMs and Presidents. It’s crazy that we don’t, actually. Before you can be PM, you ought to pass certain tests. For a start, you ought to have a very high IQ. You should also be screened by a top class psychiatrist. I bet Truss would be diagnosed as a “delusional narcissist,” or something like that.

You could even make the case for our PM always being an Oxford or Cambridge graduate. Everybody loves to run the U.K. down, but I’m grateful to live in a country whose leaders almost always went to Oxford. Right now, we have a PM and chancellor who both got firsts at Oxford, one of the oldest and greatest universities in the world. Thanks god! Because the alternative would almost certainly be somebody like Donald Trump.

This is surely a joke?

Justellingthetruth · 06/02/2023 23:29

@BarrelOfOtters

she cost 35,000,000,000 in 44 days.
divide that by 65,000,000 million people in uk.

equals

how much she owes each person with her nonsense.

catgirl1976 · 06/02/2023 23:47

Maybe….

Her “dom” (shadowy figure bit like Christian Gray in those books but a fat, old Tory) has MADE her stage a come back to humiliate her on a grand scale for their kinky BDSM purposes.

I mean I’m cringing for her - it’s far more
humiliating than being tied to the aga with an organic carrot up your bottom of whatever these types usually do for kicks.

it’s the only explanation for her come back that I can think of.

Blossomtoes · 06/02/2023 23:57

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 06/02/2023 22:17

There's something about her that has always reminded me of a prissy teenager who has always had praise showered on her by her parents, and been wheeled out to play her grade 3 piano pieces to their friends. Never actually been told off, or argued with, so has never had to make a case for anything.

Nick Robinson did a really interesting documentary on her last year on Political Thinking, and the overwhelming conclusion was that she just surrounds herself with people who agree with her, and ignores/sacks anyone who doesn't. It definitely explains the rabbit in the headlights reaction whenever she's challenged on even the most minor of things, and also that godawful smugness every time she speaks. Either that, or she is dosed up to the eyeballs most of the time.

Apparently in every government job she had she redacted anything in a report that didn’t support her view. She’s an absolute fruitcake and should never have been allowed anywhere near Downing Street.

tobee · 07/02/2023 00:52

catgirl1976 · 06/02/2023 23:47

Maybe….

Her “dom” (shadowy figure bit like Christian Gray in those books but a fat, old Tory) has MADE her stage a come back to humiliate her on a grand scale for their kinky BDSM purposes.

I mean I’m cringing for her - it’s far more
humiliating than being tied to the aga with an organic carrot up your bottom of whatever these types usually do for kicks.

it’s the only explanation for her come back that I can think of.

😆

batterseaparkfireworks · 07/02/2023 00:59

catgirl1976 · 06/02/2023 23:47

Maybe….

Her “dom” (shadowy figure bit like Christian Gray in those books but a fat, old Tory) has MADE her stage a come back to humiliate her on a grand scale for their kinky BDSM purposes.

I mean I’m cringing for her - it’s far more
humiliating than being tied to the aga with an organic carrot up your bottom of whatever these types usually do for kicks.

it’s the only explanation for her come back that I can think of.

And that's why I love Mumsnet!!

the80sweregreat · 07/02/2023 03:00

She's just arrogant and completely deluded

CrescentMoons · 07/02/2023 03:17

Justellingthetruth · 06/02/2023 23:29

@BarrelOfOtters

she cost 35,000,000,000 in 44 days.
divide that by 65,000,000 million people in uk.

equals

how much she owes each person with her nonsense.

There aren’t 65 million million in the U.K.

She might have made poor decisions Tony Blair and his weapons of mass destruction?

Calling her thick when she clearly has a degree and is intelligent is not right.

I do think she got a hard time as a woman / as do most female leaders and MPs - etc

She believes she was right, history may yet prove her right. As least she had faith in her policy. She was voted in by her entire party.
it might vilify her….

Zephirine · 07/02/2023 04:05

You need to check your maths, @CrescentMoons the other poster is correct.

Neededanewuserhandle · 07/02/2023 07:38

007DoubleOSeven · 06/02/2023 09:11

It's a common side effect of being PM (however briefly/legitimately). They're all the same. Look at Blair!

Good point about Blair - a PP said

Without getting into detailed politics, Thatcher and May were not deluded.

Thatcher was highly deluded - her insistence she was right about the Poll Tax was a major factor in her downfall.

ImAvingOops · 07/02/2023 07:44

"Calling her thick when she clearly has a degree and is intelligent is not right."

How else do you explain it?

If I was sending my child to Eton/Oxbridge now and was judging their merit on the basis of our recent PMs, I'd want my money back!

Notonthestairs · 07/02/2023 07:45

"She believes she was right, history may yet prove her right. As least she had faith in her policy. She was voted in by her entire party. "

History can't prove her right. If Sunak is shown to have pursued "wrong" policies that won't necessarily make Truss's policies correct. Unless you are going to point to elsewhere that has followed Trussonomics and thrived?

She was not voted in by her entire party.

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/02/2023 08:18

I find her absolutely cringeworthy tbh. The lack of self-awareness.

Blossomtoes · 07/02/2023 08:51

Thanks @FlowerArranger. Scary.

CaptainCorellisXylophone · 07/02/2023 09:28

She has whatever the opposite of imposter syndrome is, in spades!