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AIBU to tell my mum not to visit?

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DHillAIBU · 04/02/2023 13:54

Background: DH, DS (toddler) and I live quite a long way from our parents. We're in London area. His are in another country, mine live about 5 hours drive away (up north) but it's less on the train. So, they're mostly 'fun time' grandparents and don't have much experience of managing DS without me or DH being there. I have a kind of difficult relationship with my parents (kind of a 'golden child and scapegoat ' dynamic with my DB as the golden child). DH and I both work and DS has a part-time nursery placement.

DH was rushed to hospital. He's really ill. I hope he'll recover but it's not guaranteed.

In desperation, I phoned DM and told her what was happening. She said she was sorry but she had to go out for lunch with my DB but was thinking of us. I'd been on the verge of asking if she could come down to help me with DS (I'm sure lots of people could and do cope by themselves but I was really upset and I suppose hoping that for once she might want to help me when I needed help). But when she couldn't even find time to talk to me when DH was that unwell, I figured there was no point in pushing for more help.

So I organised childcare and things on the assumption that I can only rely on myself, local friends and nursery.

Now, DM is concerned that DB thinks she's a "bad gran" so she wants to visit to take DS out to the beach (what beach?! we don't live near a beach... is she planning to take him to Brighton or something?!) and the zoo so he doesn't need to spend his time up at the hospital "getting upset" or with people he doesn't know (he knows them better than he knows her).

I feel like this would be more unsettling for DS than the current plans (time with familiar people in familiar places and getting to spend some time with his dad, who might not get to come home again). Yes, hospitals aren't fun but this could be all the time he and I have with DH and I know that she would try to stop him visiting - I know she can't physically stop me from taking him but she has form for engineering things, eg skipping his afternoon nap because she thinks having fun is more important for a "big boy now" and then he's exhausted and can't do anything else that might have been planned. (This is part of why she now doesn't have DS without me or DH there, as he's not that big a boy really).

I don't think DS needs excitement at the moment. I think he needs stability and security at a very scary time.

Also, I don't feel like I have the energy to cope with a "fun time" visit where I would be expected to host and come up with ideas for days out and then there'd be huge disappointment when I just want to be there for DH and DS and survive this.

I told her I can't cope with hosting her at the moment and have practical support in place so there's no need for her to come up now unless she wants to stay in a hotel and fit in with our existing plans, but we'd be happy to host a "fun" visit if DH recovers, once he gets home.

DM is very upset and DB has said he thinks I'm unreasonable for not considering her feelings when she's "just trying to help".

Am I being unreasonable? Am I letting past issues get in the way of what my brother says is a genuine offer of help?

YABU - yes, apologise to DM and offer to host her visit.
YANBU - stick to the plans in place.

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Dontlistitonfacebook · 04/02/2023 13:56

Yanbu. At all.

hadenoughtoo · 04/02/2023 13:59

YANBU. Stick to your plans. They sound much better for DS. She is trying to make it all about her. So sorry about your DH and hope he recovers.

StupidlyImperfect · 04/02/2023 14:02

I'm unreasonable for not considering her feelings when she's "just trying to help"

Having had DH in hospital seriously ill when we had a toddler, I can say that YOU DON’T HAVE TO CONSIDER ANYONE ELSE’S FEELINGS.
Concentrate on yourself, DH and toddler. Don’t spend extra energy worrying what other people are (selfishly!) feeling.

I know how exhausting it is dashing back and forth to the hospital and looking after a little one, look after yourself. I’m sorry you are going through this, I hope DH makes a full recovery Flowers

ThinWomansBrain · 04/02/2023 14:03

Have a realistic conversation with her about what help would be really valuable?
If your call just as she was on her way out was completely out of the blue, don't place too much store on the immediate reaction.

Businessflake · 04/02/2023 14:03

Just tell her the moment for her to step up and help has passed.

SnackSizeRaisin · 04/02/2023 14:04

Only have her visit if you think it will be helpful, not just to make her feel better. It sounds like the visit would cause stress and conflict when she wants to do things that you don't. Plus your son barely knows her. Tell her you can't have her to stay currently. Also tell your brother to keep out of it.

Escapingafter50years · 04/02/2023 14:08

YOUR feelings and needs are the priority here. In a normal family people ask how they can help. Your "D"B actually has the nerve to guilt trip you at a time like this. How dare he! Your mother is making it all about her, and as her well-trained golden boy, your "D"B is jumping to her defense as she is making his life uncomfortable; getting you to "behave" will take the heat off him.

I'm so sorry for what you're dealing with and hope things improve for your DH, and soon.

YANBU.

Warspite · 04/02/2023 14:09

Stand your ground. Shut her down.

As others have suggested, your husband & the stability for your DS are your priorities now. Look after yourself and your mental health as you get through this. You’ve got enough on your plate so try to get as much rest as you can and shut down any thoughts about insensitive others. They are not a priority right now.

billy1966 · 04/02/2023 14:12

How stressful for you.

The time has past.

What a truly awful woman your mother is.

Stick to your guns.

Her initial response was utterly disgusting and you owe her absolutely nothing.

Put your child and yourself first.

"Help" like hers is not what you need.

Well done for organising yourself.

I really hope your husband will be ok.🤞

KarmaStar · 04/02/2023 14:13

💐so sorry your dh is very ill,I hope he comes through this.
Put you,dc and dh first.
Tell dm and db you will be in contact in due course and they can carry on with normal lives with you updating when you can.
Leave it there and don't respond to any more queries on that subject.

Thatiswild · 04/02/2023 14:13

The only people’s feelings that matter right now are yours, your child’s and your husband’s. I’m so sorry you’re going through this. Your mum making this about her (and her lack of consideration!!) is appalling. Don’t talk to them until you want to. Yanbu in any way!!

Ponoka7 · 04/02/2023 14:14

As said the time has passed for her to help. You don't need something else giving you stress. My DH died after a period of illness. My children came to the hospital with me. As much of normal routine as possible is important. I've had to go LC with my Mother, at stressful periods of my life, because I didn't need her unhelpful help or comments.

Thatiswild · 04/02/2023 14:15

@KarmaStar said it much better than I did. So important you have time for your own little family now without external input.

Ladybug14 · 04/02/2023 14:15

Keep away from your mother

I hope DH is a little better? 🥰

WineCap · 04/02/2023 14:15

What a rotten mother you have! I'm so sorry that you're all going through this horrible time. There isn't a chance that I would be accommodating your DM's random requests to be a Disney grandma to impress your DB. Has your DB been more supportive?

I hope your DH recovers. Please do let us know x

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 04/02/2023 14:16

Your dh is seriously ill. Now is the time for your DM and your DB to consider your feelings and needs, not the other way around. Try not to waste any more emotional energy on them.

FlowersFlowersFlowers for you and your dh

3cats2kids1dog · 04/02/2023 14:16

in this scenario, "consider her feelings" really means "just do what she wants"...

respond with... "i have considered her feelings and have prioritised them below mine and my family's. also if she was that concerned maybe she could speak with me directly like a grownup and not though db"

Alexandernevermind · 04/02/2023 14:20

Hope your dh makes a full and fast recovery 💐
Tell your toxic family to stop making it all about them.

LanaCara · 04/02/2023 14:20

You are not being unreasonable. But things like naps at the right times and not having too much fun shouldn't be things on your radar right now. Top of the list is your DH, and if your Mum can help ease the burden of entertaining your toddler at times when he doesnt really understand what's going on then maybe you should consider letting her help. Sorry you're going through this x

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 04/02/2023 14:24

Wtf. What a horrible dynamic that is. So your mum only wants to visit so your brother doesnt think that she is a bad gran. Nothing about actually wanting to help your son or help you. And your brother thinks that, at what is probably the worst time in your entire life, you should be worrying about her feelings?! That's insane and has to be one of the most narcissistic things I've ever read on here, making someone else's crisis all about them. I'd honestly consider cutting them off for this (which is clearly just the tip of the iceberg)

SidTwaddell · 04/02/2023 14:24

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DelphiniumBlue · 04/02/2023 14:33

"Dear DB /cc Mum
There was no offer of help or even sympathy when I needed it, and so I've put other arrangements in place. DS hardly knows DM and if she is not able to support him and me at my home at this difficult time, then there is nothing I can do . Her offer to take DS to the beach is so unrealistic as to be laughable - the nearest beach to here is x miles away and would involve a long day trip away from his parents at a time when he needs stabiilty. What i actually needed was moral support, and someone to take DS to the park for an hour or 2 here and there, and to help with keeping his routine in place. This little boy may lose his father soon and we think it is important that he sees him as much as possible while he can. Unfortunately, Mum was not willing to discuss what help I need or to even demonstrate an interest in my situation. I don't need a Disney granny showing up expecting me to host and do fun things, I want genuine kindness and understanding at this most difficult time. I'm really sad and upset that she can't do that, and that I'm having to battle this alone."

mcmooberry · 04/02/2023 14:37

Her immediate reaction to go ahead with her lunch with DB was her true self, sounds like even he was shocked that she didn't offer to help.
Stick to your guns and I hope your DH makes a full recovery xx

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 04/02/2023 14:38

I do hope and pray that your husband recovers fully

Sweetmotherofallthatisholyabov · 04/02/2023 14:39

I'd agree with dB. Correct, I'm not considering her feelings. The feelings you have capacity to consider at this point are ds, dh and your own. He's right, unfortunately she is a bad gran which had nothing to do you you cancelling the visit but with her dismissing you when he was in hospital to go to lunch.

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