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List of striking teachers

190 replies

Motherland2624 · 01/02/2023 10:27

Hi
one of my sons is in the upper sixth of the local grammar school
the headmistress has just sent a list of striking teachers (for our information)
to get a idea of what our child’s day is going to look like
do you think this is a power move by the head trying to name and shame the teachers
I think it’s totally unnecessary its a legal right to strike
strike or not I support all teachers in their choice
just wondering on peoples opinions ?

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Postapocalypticcowgirl · 02/02/2023 18:03

saraclara · 02/02/2023 17:50

The colleague grapevine will have been on fire. Seriously..any teachers at rallies or on their way to one will have had their phones going mad.

It's unthinkable, with that many teachers on the list, that 30 hours later none of them will know about it.
Also they were back at school today, where the place would be buzzing with it. A massive data breach and a single teacher would be unaware?

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If it were me, I'd want to forward the email to at least one of the teachers who is on it- because otherwise the head will undoubtedly minimise what was said etc.

declutteringmymind · 02/02/2023 18:05

Chair of governors here.

They were absolutely wrong to release that information.

Give the NEU a call and see what they suggest. I'm pretty sure they will have been told about it by the teachers.

You could also follow the school's complaints procedure.

Piggywaspushed · 02/02/2023 18:07

Similar situation at my school OP, but shared with students.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 03/02/2023 04:46

I understand the data breach but it wasn’t saying who was striking just who was off, so presumably included teachers who were also off. For childcare resound. Genuine question, how do you tell students which classes to turn up to and which to not without telling them which teachers are off?
surely if that not possible you have no option but to shut the school which so many people have also complained about.

SupportiveDad · 03/02/2023 07:57

I agree Data Protection can be difficult but at the end of the day it’s law and protects individuals.
As difficult as it would have been for the school they could have created distribution lists for each class and sent them out just saying that the class had been cancelled.
All people dealing with personal data have these problems but sending an e-mail such as the one sent seems such a fundamental lack of understanding of data protection. Again, willing to be proven wrong.

InsomniacVampire · 03/02/2023 08:14

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 03/02/2023 04:46

I understand the data breach but it wasn’t saying who was striking just who was off, so presumably included teachers who were also off. For childcare resound. Genuine question, how do you tell students which classes to turn up to and which to not without telling them which teachers are off?
surely if that not possible you have no option but to shut the school which so many people have also complained about.

The headteachers do not know who is in union, but they know the numbers of teachers in the union that is taking the industrial action. They should assume all of them are striking. If some people don't strike and turn up, then the head finds on the day after they turned up. But they should plan for the school operating on the numbers of teachers who are not in the striking union, unless some decide to inform head in advacne they will be in.

Soontobe60 · 03/02/2023 08:20

fUNNYfACE36 · 01/02/2023 11:32

Of course there's a legitimate interest.He needs to know whether his classes are on and if and when he should come to school!

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He’s in 6th form for heavens sake! He goes to school, if there’s no teacher to teach second period, he has extra study time!!!

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 03/02/2023 10:09

InsomniacVampire · 03/02/2023 08:14

The headteachers do not know who is in union, but they know the numbers of teachers in the union that is taking the industrial action. They should assume all of them are striking. If some people don't strike and turn up, then the head finds on the day after they turned up. But they should plan for the school operating on the numbers of teachers who are not in the striking union, unless some decide to inform head in advacne they will be in.

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Ok but in sixth form unless a teacher is off long term you probably wouldn’t have someone else covering a class so the students need to know of their teacher is in to know whether to go to class or not. I know it’s wrong to share the information but I am also struggling to see how schools should do it unless the students just turn up to class and see that the teacher isn’t there. Maybe that is the solution.

Piggywaspushed · 03/02/2023 11:18

They don't normally get told if teachers are off sick unless the teachers tells them herself.

InsomniacVampire · 03/02/2023 12:18

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 03/02/2023 10:09

Ok but in sixth form unless a teacher is off long term you probably wouldn’t have someone else covering a class so the students need to know of their teacher is in to know whether to go to class or not. I know it’s wrong to share the information but I am also struggling to see how schools should do it unless the students just turn up to class and see that the teacher isn’t there. Maybe that is the solution.

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Sadly part of the strike is about inconveniencing people- so it is just that, inconvenience. Some of the schools in my area said work would be posted in the morning by teachers who don't strike, in some teachers informed students in advance if their lessons would go ahead. Schools could also not say anything until they know who is in and email list of classes goign ahead from let's say p2 or whever.

At worst, it is just one day- if a student turns up and there is no lesson they can at least go to the library and do private study.

Eleganz · 03/02/2023 12:49

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 03/02/2023 04:46

I understand the data breach but it wasn’t saying who was striking just who was off, so presumably included teachers who were also off. For childcare resound. Genuine question, how do you tell students which classes to turn up to and which to not without telling them which teachers are off?
surely if that not possible you have no option but to shut the school which so many people have also complained about.

You tell them which classes are running, end of.

It doesn't immediately follow that because a class is cancelled it is because that teacher is on strike. It could be that other classes are being prioritised and non-striking staff are being deployed to prioritise that for example (even though there is advice from the NASUWT to not cover for striking NEU members) members of schools SLT could be covering in various ways.

So, there is a huge difference between a headteacher publishing which classes are cancelled due to industrial action and a list of striking teachers, regardless of how easy some parents think making inferences between the two.

Original poster
Motherland2624 · 03/02/2023 14:25

Yes it did it said who was absent due to strike action

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Sartre · 03/02/2023 14:34

It was obvious which teachers had chosen to strike at my DC’s school without the need for this. They listed which classes would be in and which wouldn’t do it was pretty clear the ones who weren’t had a striking teacher. DD’s teacher went on strike and I was proud of him.

Pizza79 · 03/02/2023 17:05

May I add this is not the first indication of incompetence from this particular head teacher, and thererefore there has been a feeling of dicontent ever since her appointment. She should never have been given this role.

InsomniacVampire · 03/02/2023 17:38

Sartre · 03/02/2023 14:34

It was obvious which teachers had chosen to strike at my DC’s school without the need for this. They listed which classes would be in and which wouldn’t do it was pretty clear the ones who weren’t had a striking teacher. DD’s teacher went on strike and I was proud of him.

Not necessarily, some would be absent because their kids' schools were closed or had prearranged dosctors' appointments or were ill.

Crumpetdisappointment · 03/02/2023 18:36

funnily enough, my dc shcool didnt send email til 2.40 pm Confused
and said industrial action

DreadlocksMadeMeHappy · 27/02/2023 16:28

Hey @Motherland2624 have you seen your latest email from the school?

Original poster
Motherland2624 · 27/02/2023 17:27

👋 hey yes I have I kind of feel partly responsible the kids are all pleased about it though

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InsomniacVampire · 27/02/2023 17:29

Motherland2624 · 27/02/2023 17:27

👋 hey yes I have I kind of feel partly responsible the kids are all pleased about it though

I think we need to know what was in the email! :)

Motherland2624 · 27/02/2023 17:33

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Pizza79 · 27/02/2023 20:01

I wouldn't feel too bad about it from what I heard people were shocked she'd managed to become headmistress anyway. She was no where near as good as her predecessor.

saraclara · 27/02/2023 20:04

That's not on @Motherland2624 . You've identified the school and therefore the headteacher in your post.

Womencanlift · 27/02/2023 20:44

For someone who was complaining about names being released and people losing their privacy, you have done a shitty job of keeping the old and new head teacher’s names private. Looks very much like you have/had an agenda here OP.

JenniferBarkley · 27/02/2023 20:56

I can't believe that post has been left up,I reported it and got the "we're having a look" email but it's still there. Confused

declutteringmymind · 27/02/2023 21:00

So you complained about someone revealing identifying info and then you do the same?

Classy.