Royals should send their children to State schools

[Possiblynotever]

And politicians too. Just that really. I have nothing against private schools, but I think that if you head or represent a State you should proudly use the education it provides. Unless you think it is not good enough and then you should do something about it.

Why? People should do what they think is best for their kids. It would be wonderful if all state schools were excellent but they’re not. If you want to send your children to a state school on principle, good for you. We chose to do otherwise.

There are plenty of good state schools and they tend to be the ones with well behaved kids and supportive parents (who support & actually listen to the teachers, discipline their own children, value education, encourage homework, insist school rules are followed, create safe spaces for revision for key exams etc). Every parent should do what they can to support their child’s school and their child’s education, not just politicians and Royalty. A lot of education happens at home anyway. I think part of the problem in this country is precisely the expectation that government/them/the elite owe you something and should make changes happen. We can all contribute to society and matter.

Private schools are simply another form of schools where parents who support education and value it come together (when you pay so much you become invested). The same applies in plenty of state schools overall, but sadly does not apply in all state schools. When the balance is tipped that is when you have a problem, in certain state schools. Just ask any teacher - if every child was fell fed, turned up in clean clothes with all kit, was not neglected and read to and spoken to, helped with homework if they need help, spoke politely, followed rules etc our state schools overall would be fine (the only caveat being that some children do of course require specialist help which needs to be provided by government and staffed correctly). Private schools deal with the latter issue by only including as many as they can cope with or not including such children.

You are completely discarding the security issue. If the royal children were in a state school it would have been an ISIS target when we had a spate of attacks around 2017. Part of the prestige of the rich from Saudi, Nigeria etc is that royals attend the same schools. That brings in income for the UK, they wouldn't be allowed to pay for private places in a state school. How would the press invasion be handled by a state school? It just wouldn't work. They'd switch to home schooling.
It was hoped that the travel ban during Covid would force the rich/leaders to up the safety and standards in a lot of African hospitals and schools. It didn't. Loopholes were found. I wouldn't want the press reporting daily and hiding news, behind what's happening with the rich kids in state schools.

An hour’s work is an hour’s and all should be paid the same? You mean a Neuro Surgeon should be on the same hourly rate as a supermarket cashier? So is the Neuro Surgeon being paid £10 ph or is the supermarket cashier being paid £500+ ph?

I don’t believe that poster actually believes that nonsense, they probably just want to see the reactions.

Did you just second yourself op?! Errrr I think someone else has to do that. I don’t have an issue with where the royals go - they should be able to choose surely?!

There is massive inequality in state schools. If royals and politicians were compelled to send their kids state, they's still pick the elite schools, not your inner city comprehensive.

Likewise, all children are equally important. Why would we subject them to a more or less good education dependent on whether their parents can pay?

Communism doesn’t work. All day education and free childcare and camps for all were great in e.g. Socialist Russia - but the Communist leaders at the top abused their powers more than a democratic elite due to being all powerful. Add to that lack of freedom of speech - those at the top never hear a no or critique and society eventually implodes. If everyone gets paid the same regardless, people stop trying, that is human nature. Aspiration is really important.
I think the deterioration of behaviour in state schools that we currently hear about being the root cause of problems in state schools - yes, it is down to poverty, but also the internet, and the fact that kids do not get enough attention at home because both parents have to work or eg one parent is depressed or an addict.
Bringing up children is really hard work and society needs children and parents need more support. Psychological health of children cannot be ignored. That is where we are going wrong.
If a society expects both parents to work to function, then education has to be funded with more staff to make up for that so that those kids get the attention they are lacking at home at school. And the staff need to be trained such that the psychological health of the child is promoted.

Would you apply for ajob that dictates where you can and can't go on holiday, where you can send your kids to school etc?

@Dotjones

Just wanted you to know I got the joke.

In principle - yes. In reality i don't want my child in a school where there are armed security guards everywhere.

Thanks for all your thoughts.
I think that with the level of taxes and NC we are paying, the UK should have excellent schools and a fantastic NHS. You all agree that currently this is not the case.
Some of you think that we should thank those who go privately as they take some of the burden off the system, ignoring that in order to achieve this, they pay privately. This payment is nothing more than a hidden tax.
Most of you accept that schools are what they are and hospitals are what they are and that no improvement can be made and you better earn a lot of money to go privately.
Except: some cannot earn a lot of money because they did not go to the right schools.
It will be more and more difficult to climb the ladder which will become steeper.

But from what you say, the state we are in cannot be changed, and the Royals do not have to set an example ( so why are you all complaining about dear Harry?) and they should choose to send their children to the most expensive schools because it is what it is, and well done them to be born Royals ( or to have achieved the status).

Op we are not in year 10 and you are not our teacher, despite you quite clearly desperately wanting to be!

Every parent has the right (within limits of course) to send their child to the school that they think is best for them. Just because you are a royal or a politician this choice doesn't get taken away. No job should dictate what the child of the employee can or cannot do, that would be nuts.

Not sure what this has to do with the ginger whinger?

Maybe it’s just my age now, but is there anything more irritating than a fellow parent having a view on how you should educate and raise your child/children? Royal, famous or just hard working parents who can afford alternatives to the state offerings, I don’t care- it’s their choice. End of.

And people wonder just why the voting public in the UK keeps making disastrous decisions...

@Whatislove82 I do not need to teach you anything; you are happy to be milked.

Milked by whom?

i certainly don’t feel milked when I dropped my children off at their wonderful school this morning!

No, you happily part from around £11000 a year for the smug joy it gives you to think that when you are happy everyone else is.

I don’t
My ex’s parents do
bloody brilliant!

And it’s a heck of a lot more than £11k!