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Royals should send their children to State schools

173 replies

Possiblynotever · 01/02/2023 07:27

And politicians too. Just that really. I have nothing against private schools, but I think that if you head or represent a State you should proudly use the education it provides. Unless you think it is not good enough and then you should do something about it.

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mumda · 01/02/2023 09:50

All council employees should live in the local authority areas they manage.

All social housing provider staff should live on their estates.

All politicians should live in the areas they represent.

Children should go to their nearest school.

There should be no private healthcare or private schools.

Too harsh?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 01/02/2023 09:51

Sort of yes for RF, but maybe not practical as how would they manage the security?

Definite yes to politicians, esp government ministers. Don’t think there should be a law about it but there should be an expectation, as in it should be more frowned on.

Whatislove82 · 01/02/2023 09:51

BellePeppa · 01/02/2023 09:49

They’re usually a lot smaller so more manageable. My kids went to private and from the ages of 0-18 there were only about 350 pupils. That’s divided into three buildings: pre, prep and seniors (including 6th form). That’s a heck of a lot easier to manage than a one/two thousand pupil plus senior school in basically one building.

Mine going to a public boarding school with 950 secondary aged pupils

Whatislove82 · 01/02/2023 09:52

My kids went to private and from the ages of 0-18 there were only about 350 pupils

bloody hell that’s tiny. I went to private school, as do my children - and I’ve never come across such a tiny private school with such an age range

BellePeppa · 01/02/2023 09:52

hryllilegur · 01/02/2023 09:45

I’d move my child. Seriously.

I’d assume though that having that royal child there would bring in some of the best teachers and the school gov etc would be falling over backwards to make it the best state school in the country. I’d certainly keep my child there under those possibilities.

BellePeppa · 01/02/2023 09:54

Whatislove82 · 01/02/2023 09:52

My kids went to private and from the ages of 0-18 there were only about 350 pupils

bloody hell that’s tiny. I went to private school, as do my children - and I’ve never come across such a tiny private school with such an age range

I know 😁 I’ve just looked to see an update and yup, enrolment is 350.

KickingScreaming · 01/02/2023 09:56

"Royals should send their children to state schools" - @Possiblynotever - really?

No! I disagree.

I just wish all schools were on an equal footing, but unfortunately they are not. The truth is, private schools largely offer much more than the education syllabus - if you do your own homework you'd know this.

angstridden2 · 01/02/2023 09:58

Poster earlier said something about people sending their children to private schools until state schools ‘raise their game, which they probably won’t’. You’re comparing apples and oranges; state schools have to take children of all different abilities and behaviours and teach them in classes of up to 30.Academic private schools won’t accept, and certainly won’t keep, very disruptive pupils or those who have substantial additional learning needs (if they do, parents may have to fund a TA) Funding is set at a fraction of what is available to each child in the private sector. With the exception of a group of very selective state schools the two cannot be comparable.

GrantShappsAteMyBrain · 01/02/2023 10:00

If I was politician I'd put my kids in private school (assuming I can afford it then) while trying to sort out the mess that is state education. I wouldn't sacrifice my kids on the altar of my principles.

I think it makes much more sense to ask people to stop voting for the Tories so that something will be done about education.

HiddenGiraffes · 01/02/2023 10:06

It's interesting you see royals as accountable to us, like politicians. It's a common perspective, but that's not actually what the institution is. The power of royalty is greatly eroded but they're still royalty.

hryllilegur · 01/02/2023 10:14

BellePeppa · 01/02/2023 09:52

I’d assume though that having that royal child there would bring in some of the best teachers and the school gov etc would be falling over backwards to make it the best state school in the country. I’d certainly keep my child there under those possibilities.

not necessarily. Lots of teachers wouldn’t want that circus either.

I know that when William was considering universities, the edinburgh geography department (which was being considered - and was rejected for security reasons, presumably among other things) were horrified at the prospect and delighted that st andrews got lumbered with him instead.

Seymour5 · 01/02/2023 10:16

theworldhas · 01/02/2023 09:27

Schools just reflect the huge economic/class disparities in society. Many of the best schools are state school - but overwhelmingly in expensive areas of course. If you want a more equal/meritocratic society you need to tackle the rots of the problem (income disparity/parents low aspirations/community breakdown/crime/ poverty) etc. Schools are just a symptom, and unless you also randomise where people live/buy houses, banning private schools wouldn’t fix the issue.

This is it in a nutshell.

However, even if incomes were more equalised, I’m not sure it would alter some negative views or lack of interest towards school, work, aspirations etc. The Michaela free school seems to work wonders with children from poor areas, high quality results etc. In that system, supportive parents who don’t complain about the way their child is taught is key.

BellePeppa · 01/02/2023 10:16

hryllilegur · 01/02/2023 10:14

not necessarily. Lots of teachers wouldn’t want that circus either.

I know that when William was considering universities, the edinburgh geography department (which was being considered - and was rejected for security reasons, presumably among other things) were horrified at the prospect and delighted that st andrews got lumbered with him instead.

So maybe state school for royals isn’t workable??🤷‍♀️Back to private then.

Whatislove82 · 01/02/2023 10:17

BellePeppa · 01/02/2023 09:54

I know 😁 I’ve just looked to see an update and yup, enrolment is 350.

I take it not a sporty school?!

NowThatIThink · 01/02/2023 10:18

Everyone should send their children to state schools. There should be no private/public divide in education. It perpetuates inequality in a hugely unequal society.

BellePeppa · 01/02/2023 10:21

Whatislove82 · 01/02/2023 10:17

I take it not a sporty school?!

On the contrary. Rugby, football, tennis, cricket all the usual suspects. My younger son hates team sports (prefers circuit training type stuff) so hated the sporty aspect of it.

Dotjones · 01/02/2023 10:22

NowThatIThink · 01/02/2023 10:18

Everyone should send their children to state schools. There should be no private/public divide in education. It perpetuates inequality in a hugely unequal society.

Everyone should be paid the same too. It perpetuates inequality that I work the same 8 hours a day that someone else does but they get paid multiple times what I do. Regardless of the job you do an hour's work is still an hour's work. Just set a standard pay rate and everyone gets that right from toilet cleaner to Prime Minister.

Nanny0gg · 01/02/2023 10:23

BellePeppa · 01/02/2023 09:54

I know 😁 I’ve just looked to see an update and yup, enrolment is 350.

My state grammar back in the 60s was that size plus a 6th form

I hate today's giant factories

Possiblynotever · 01/02/2023 10:23

@Whatislove82 I think Clarence Court produces great eggs and that the Prince of Wales, now King, did a great job with British produce. He has also done massive environmental campaigns and put Britain at the forefront much earlier than any other country.

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Possiblynotever · 01/02/2023 10:23

This said, there is a lack of voice about State education. We will never be able to level the playing field and improve the state system into a safe, nourishing and academically sound place.

About the dangers to the Royals...well, if the Royals represent this country, can we say that lovely prince George and princess Charlotte represent the children of Britain? When the last report is that 6 out of 10 children are on the poverty line? Just get real, and stop this insane class system.

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C1umsyGiraffe · 01/02/2023 10:23

Not sure if this has already been mentioned so apologies if I'm repeating it -

In Norway (I think) it is illegal to pay for education, which means politicians etc actually care about funding for state schools! So schools get more money and are a lot better funded! 100% think we should go that way!

Whatislove82 · 01/02/2023 10:24

BellePeppa · 01/02/2023 10:21

On the contrary. Rugby, football, tennis, cricket all the usual suspects. My younger son hates team sports (prefers circuit training type stuff) so hated the sporty aspect of it.

But 350 pupils from 0-18

how did they rustle up A and B etc teams for matches? Matches are a huge part of both my private school children and they play schools with A, B etc teams.

how many 18 year olds were there at the school?

im fascinated!

Brefugee · 01/02/2023 10:24

It's interesting you see royals as accountable to us, like politicians. It's a common perspective, but that's not actually what the institution is. The power of royalty is greatly eroded but they're still royalty.

wtf? are they special kinds of beings? They are accountable to us because they get all the palaces the jollies and taxpayer money. And you can quibble all you like about what comes out of their "private purse" - all that land and so on belongs to us. Their very existance is an absolute anachronism.

Whatislove82 · 01/02/2023 10:25

C1umsyGiraffe · 01/02/2023 10:23

Not sure if this has already been mentioned so apologies if I'm repeating it -

In Norway (I think) it is illegal to pay for education, which means politicians etc actually care about funding for state schools! So schools get more money and are a lot better funded! 100% think we should go that way!

Why would you post without doing a quick google to check?! 😂

listsandbudgets · 01/02/2023 10:26

I disagree. Technically people have a choice and should be allowed to exercise it.

Incidentally I find it amusing that the advert I'm getting next to this post is for a very expensive looking private school!!