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Mum called social services

76 replies

shas19 · 28/01/2023 11:43

I've just got back in contact with my mum after 3 years of no contact. We have been speaking for just over a year. Back story is she tried to make me chose between her and my partner, we have 3 kids together. It all got very messy and a lot of arguments had and she didn't see my children for all that time. Some of the things she's said about me are shocking. Laughing about me having cervical cancer, calling me names, a bad parent, alcoholic (I only drinking on occasions or the odd time I go out) so don't know where that came from, partners a drug dealer (he works in trade). I've seen messages that she's sent saying that she's called social services back in 2019 and even wanted to go for guardianship of my son. Now, 3 days ago I got a call from them about a report that was logged from over 2 years ago but because of covid they're backed up and now want to investigate. I can never trust her again. The relationship is already frayed and this is basically the straw that broke the camels back. I can never trust her around my kids again. She obviously did it out of spite years back but the repercussions are happening now. I've told her about the call and she's pretending she knows nothing about it. If I cut ties this time it will be for good but once I do I will also lose the rest of my family and be made out to be the one in the wrong

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Hellybelly84 · 28/01/2023 15:01

I think you know you are much better off without her. Your own little family is really all that matters. She sounds like all she brings you is stress and unhappiness. I would call SS and explain what you think she is trying to do so its on record.

oakleaffy · 28/01/2023 15:01

No way would Social services be that far behind?
Could it be a concerned neighbour?
If there is a lot of shouting and crying
Nobody surely would “ Laugh “ at an adult child having Cervical cancer, surely.

CPL593H · 28/01/2023 15:05

shas19 · 28/01/2023 14:57

Thata fine for you not to agree but as a previous person has mentioned people are waiting that long and in my case that's just that! I cannot belive it and if it was someone else I'd be saying the same thing

OP, I mean no offence. Whatever she's said though will have some sort of child protection aspect and while I'm sure timescales did at times slip during Covid, CP was still done as priority. Even if a referral is thought likely to be malicious, it still has to be investigated. Waiting years for an advocate is not the same (dreadful as that is)

I would be raising a complaint in the circumstances you describe as something must have gone terribly wrong here.

Ihavedogs · 28/01/2023 15:08

shas19 · 28/01/2023 14:30

@Ihavedogs no I agree, but I have proof it was her. Unfortunately she fell out with a friend who showed them to me. I sish I didn't have the proof as then I would never be 100%.

Obviousloy we don’t know what the messages said, but I didn’t take it that ‘calling’ social services back in 2019 necessarily meant naming names and raising concerns and it was that which triggered a follow up between 3-4 years later.

shas19 · 28/01/2023 15:08

oakleaffy · 28/01/2023 15:01

No way would Social services be that far behind?
Could it be a concerned neighbour?
If there is a lot of shouting and crying
Nobody surely would “ Laugh “ at an adult child having Cervical cancer, surely.

No, was her. I mentioned previously about seeing proof of her admitting she'd called snd said she was concerned because she couldn't just say I'd withdrawn contact. And yes, yes she did. It's disgusting @ooakleaffy

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shas19 · 28/01/2023 15:09

CPL593H · 28/01/2023 15:05

OP, I mean no offence. Whatever she's said though will have some sort of child protection aspect and while I'm sure timescales did at times slip during Covid, CP was still done as priority. Even if a referral is thought likely to be malicious, it still has to be investigated. Waiting years for an advocate is not the same (dreadful as that is)

I would be raising a complaint in the circumstances you describe as something must have gone terribly wrong here.

I'll definitely be raising a complaint because its shocking!

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shas19 · 28/01/2023 15:10

antipodeancanary · 28/01/2023 15:00

No. There is not a two year waiting list for prospective child abuse cases.

Okay maybe you could let the social worker that called me know that there's not a two year wait then? This is very much the case in my situation.

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shas19 · 28/01/2023 15:11

To everyone that's given advice thank you! Will be closing this thread now as apparently there's so way social services can be so useless!

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CoorieInByTheFire · 28/01/2023 15:13

Is it possible that there was a report from 2 years previously, which wasn’t followed up as they felt it was malicious, but the mother has since made, or got someone else to make, another false report, which has triggered this and they’ve referenced the original call when talking to the OP?

Twazique · 28/01/2023 15:19

I think it would be helpful to get a copy of the messages between your mum and the friend she has fallen out with. I would keep a copy and would give a copy to the social worker who visits, and it might be handy in the future.

Did your mum have regular contact in the past?

MaireadMcSweeney · 28/01/2023 15:19

Tomselleckhaskindeyes · 28/01/2023 14:27

i work as an advocate and some people have been waiting three years for a social worker. It is an absolute scandal. yep

Not in child protection though! Adult services or children with disabilities maybe. Referrals are screened and assessed within 45 days, not 2 years! This is literally an impossible situation.

StaunchMomma · 28/01/2023 15:23

shas19 · 28/01/2023 15:11

To everyone that's given advice thank you! Will be closing this thread now as apparently there's so way social services can be so useless!

Just ignore them, OP.

Some people here just refuse to give the benefit of the doubt, even when others have agreed that this can happen (e the poster who is an advocate).

\If you need support then stick around and scroll past the nonsense.

harrassedmumto3 · 28/01/2023 15:24

What a bitch. You poor thing Flowers

StaunchMomma · 28/01/2023 15:25

Twazique · 28/01/2023 15:19

I think it would be helpful to get a copy of the messages between your mum and the friend she has fallen out with. I would keep a copy and would give a copy to the social worker who visits, and it might be handy in the future.

Did your mum have regular contact in the past?

I agree with this. I would also screenshot any abusive texts or letters etc and make sure they are forwarded to other family members so they can see what she's doing.

Yes, she will get some of them onside with her lies and manipulations, but that doesn't mean you can't stick up for yourself!

I think you do need to call your auntie, too. Having family onside at the moment will help.

StaunchMomma · 28/01/2023 15:27

MaireadMcSweeney · 28/01/2023 15:19

Not in child protection though! Adult services or children with disabilities maybe. Referrals are screened and assessed within 45 days, not 2 years! This is literally an impossible situation.

Then her Mother has made another report in the last few months, which is even worse!

LemonSwan · 28/01/2023 15:29

Wow! pure evil.

realmsofglory · 28/01/2023 15:30

why are people saying 2 years?
A complaint made in 2019 is 3-4 years old!

realmsofglory · 28/01/2023 15:34

In fact OPs whole timeline seems out of whack

Soontobe60 · 28/01/2023 15:39

shas19 · 28/01/2023 15:10

Okay maybe you could let the social worker that called me know that there's not a two year wait then? This is very much the case in my situation.

They may well have had a report made 2 years ago and deemed it to be malicious, but they must also have had another report very recently in order to trigger this phone call. That may, or may not, have been from your mother.

I would be absolutely amazed that a report of child neglect about someone who had a history of post partum psychosis has not been followed up in 2+ years. Anything could be happening to that child in that time!

Soontobe60 · 28/01/2023 15:42

StaunchMomma · 28/01/2023 15:23

Just ignore them, OP.

Some people here just refuse to give the benefit of the doubt, even when others have agreed that this can happen (e the poster who is an advocate).

\If you need support then stick around and scroll past the nonsense.

All I can say is that I hope the advocate has whistleblown about this horrendous delay in allocating social workers wherever she lives. I’ve certainly not heard about it anywhere.
As a teacher and DSL for many years, I’ve never had any trouble getting a social worker to deal with an allegation via the MASH team in less that 24 hours!

Soontobe60 · 28/01/2023 15:43

StaunchMomma · 28/01/2023 15:27

Then her Mother has made another report in the last few months, which is even worse!

Not if her mother has genuine concerns.

KhrushchevNZ · 28/01/2023 15:57

I’m so sorry you are going through this. She sounds utterly toxic. Hopefully social services will see through her BS.

NaturalBae · 28/01/2023 17:22

I work in Children’s Services (CS). I’ve worked in two busy inner London LA’s since COVID has been around. MASH/Front Door Teams have a Social Worker on duty 24/7. It wouldn’t and shouldn’t take years for a referral to be followed up, COVID lockdowns or not.
We all worked throughout the lockdowns, even those of us with young children who should have been in school (another story!).
Query exactly why it’s taken so long for CS to contact you. Either way, you’ve been contacted now. A SW will be visiting to carry out a Welfare Check and will take it from there depending on the outcome of the visit.

Re. your Mum - go NC. It doesn’t seem to have changed.

I realised that I should have been on a Child Protection Plan (CP Plan) as a child due to Emotional Abuse, once I started working in Safeguarding. The Physical Abuse happened on the day that my Mum, toddler Sister and I finally packed up and left the family home after an overnight visit to A&E.
I’m practically NC with my Father. He last saw our middle DC 10 years ago when they were 2yrs old and he’s never met our 8yr old DC. He sends me a Birthday text once a year if he remembers, which I respond to. He never sends a text to my younger Sister on her Birthday. She changed her surname as soon as she went to Uni, which he had the audacity to be upset about it when he found out over a decade later. He was sending me random conspiracy videos, eg. COVID over the last few years which I ignore. I told him to stop 1yr ago and it took him a few months to actually stop sending them. I unfortunately see him at family gatherings, such as funerals where he tries to grind me down about not seeing his GC and never setting eyes on our youngest DC. At the last family funeral, he had the brass neck to suggest that I and DH and I should be helping to support him financially in his old age, including giving him a vast amount of money to enable him to buy land abroad so he can build a home, live off the land and retire out there. This after repeatedly messing up his own job prospects/future financial security when I was a child, having no home of his own since then up until now, no private pension, nada!

My Mum is not a bad as yours but I’ve also had a strained relationship with my Mum.
Our relationship has improved over the years as she finally realised that I had no qualms about going NC with her if she did not change her attitude and behaviour towards me and at the time, our eldest DC. Although, I still have to occasionally reinforce boundaries. I also had our first DC when I was quite young. I was 20. My Mum resented being made a young Grandma and was always busy on the 2-3 times I asked her to babysit, even though she admitted to not having any advance plans on the dates in question. I was in my early 20’s, at Uni and also working PT at the time so was not trying to be a party animal. She also used to say inappropriate and not very nice comments around our eldest DC when they were young. The last straw was a refusal to attend eldest DC’s Birthday Party, as she didn’t understand why she needed to be there as it was a kids party. She turned up in the end.

My family members and current friends have seen that I will remove toxic people from my life if necessary. I’m very clear about how I expect people to treat me and my family. I also treat people the way I expect to be treated.

Get receipts! Obtain copies of the messages from your Mum’s friend. Screen shot or print all other forms of communication/ proof re. the CS referral being malicious.
Also last but not least, confront your Mum and record the conversation.
Parents are meant to be loving, caring, nurturing, kind and protective. Cut the toxic BS out of your life and continue to protect your children from this toxic cycle of abuse. Best wishes🍀

NaturalBae · 28/01/2023 17:47

*She doesn’t seem to have changed.

softswirlingsnow · 29/01/2023 16:32

To clear things up re the report make a subject access request to social services. Ask for all data they hold on you and your children, including correspondence with other agencies or individuals, for the past 5 years or more. The name of the person who reported you will be redacted but you will know from reading exactly what was reported and will be able to deduce who it was.