To think we had a ghost?

[SmartPony]

I have posted about this before, but DD had a scary dream about someone standing on our stairs which made me think of it again!

We moved into our dilapidated bungalow a few years ago. Previously owned by an elderly couple - husband had died. Wife went into care home. It had remained unoccupied for some months. Very dusty, old - imprint of a cross that used to hang on our bedroom wall.

First night - a car seat that I’d placed centrally on a table fell to the floor. Loud bang middle of the night in the darkness.

A week later I distinctly heard the piano being played. Called out well done to DD. She was in a different room and was not playing the piano.

One morning I woke to the sound of an alarm clock. Which stopped as I woke. Desperately searched bed for phone/clock. Nothing there. A few weeks later I looked at picture of bedroom as it was - on rightmove. There was once an alarm clock where I heard the noise.

I didn’t speak about any of this to DD, maybe mentioned to DP - but certainly not in front of DD as I wouldn’t want to scare her.

DD went to the toilet and DP saw her freeze. She said there was a man in the toilet wearing a suit. And he disappeared. DD then refused to go to toilet without an adult for several weeks.

Then - nothing more. And if I did perhaps wonder if we had a ‘ghost’ - I certainly don’t now. It’s our home.

My justification for this is : settling in to a new home, and my mind racing. The state it was in and an over active imagination on my part. All my communications to DD were rational and we always said the ‘ghost’ in the toilet was Daddy’s shadow. Only I spoke to our neighbour who knew the elderly couple - she remarked that he was always smartly dressed…

Tell me I’m mad!

@Elfidela1980 , I do think very young children can sometimes see things older people can’t.

A dd moved into a house where one of the owners had recently died in IIRC her late 60s. Not long afterwards dd noticed her first baby at about 8 months, just old enough to have learned to wave, smiling and waving at someone who wasn’t there. There was no mirror or any other reflection that could have accounted for it.
Her 2nd did exactly the same at the same sort of age, in the same place.

Dd was slightly spooked but not really scared - the house had always had a lovely warm atmosphere - you could tell it had been a happy family home. The woman who’d died had been a mother of 3.

Is that similar to certain meditation techniques, sounds very interesting. I really do think we will find answers to different types of phenomenon in the future.

@Daffodilis

Yes - I often think that in 100, 200 years time, we will think our current understanding of science is quite primitive. Of course ghosts currently have no scientific backing, and I was just reading what Brian Cox has to say on the matter! But there seems to be lots of convincing evidence to suggest otherwise. 70% here think I’m not being unreasonable. In day to day life I’d say I’m pretty boring, rational - I don’t rate horoscopes or pseudoscience - but I truly think I experienced ‘something’. And that ‘something’ has gone. It wasn’t a bad something, it didn’t make me feel terrified - it was just odd.

Someone asked about the lady who occupied the house. She went into a care home and I heard she passed away about 2 years ago.

I can't find the Savernake Forest thread via Search, can anyone link it?
I do remember it was also the place the peace convoy sheltered in after the Battle of the Beanfield back in '85 when they were attempting to camp at Stonehenge.

It’s been copied into this thread, it’s the sixth post down.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_unexplained/3695627-Where-has-the-Savernake-Forest-post-gone

@MadisonAvenue thank you

Just read the Savernaje one with an open mind.
Reads like a load of...balls

Nice try! We live in a bungalow...and have stairs...called a loft conversion 🙈

Scientists have managed to see inside atoms ( 0.000000000000001m) and to the far reaches of the universe (10000000000000000000000000000m), but no-one (billions of people with HD cameras on their phones) has yet to get a video of a ghost in their own home?

Ghosts (as in dead people wandering round) don't exist. It's clearly creaky houses and people being half-awake imagining them.

Yes, it’s hilarious to see credulous people who don’t know the first thing about science, far less it’s likely future developments, on these threads trying to use it as a way of legitimising their stories of strange noises, sleep paralysis, children waving at invisible things and Great Aunt Hilda dropping feathers in the garden after her passing.

Yes, it’s hilarious to see credulous people who don’t know the first thing about science, far less it’s likely future developments

Science doesn’t always get it right first time.

www.famousscientists.org/10-most-famous-scientific-theories-that-were-later-debunked/

@starfro
@Debtknell

But there are a great many questions that science has not fully answered : why do we dream? What is consciousness? Is time travel possible?

I don’t think our current thinking of ‘ghosts’ is a plausible explanation - but I do think there is ‘something’. And that I experienced something. I think science is fluid and surely in 100, 200, 1000 years time - there will be a better understanding of this phenomena which is experienced by a great many people.

If people didn’t question, or constantly dismissed their thoughts as poppycock - it wouldn’t allow for new discoveries?

Apart from the child seat, what you describe seems like a residual haunting not an actual haunting so wouldn’t worry me.

When I moved into my old house 1930 so not mega old I had the smell of cigarettes in the kitchen often

I'd also feel someone sitting on the edge of the bed at times.

I had a fun tarot card lady round when my son was a baby for some
Fellow mums
And she mentioned the
Feel if the house and asked if I'd felt anything. I told her what I had felt and she said if I wanted I could tell
Them to leave me alone and that I was fine. They didn't need to watch over me.

I did that a few months later and it never happened again.

I missed them in a way

It's easy for people to say it's an overactive imagination instead of a ghost . Most hauntings tend to be of the poltergeist type . Unless you have experienced it for yourself it's easy to scoff .

Contact the local vicar to bless the house, we did this and everything stopped and also was a lovely experience

Over the years I have considered doing this. The reason I haven’t is because I am worried it would annoy it and make things worse.

What did they actually do when they came around?

As far as I know sleep paralysis is defined by science.

Interesting to see how many people have such limited idea of what science is and how knowledge changes as new discoveries are made. The work is never finished, knowledge often debunked as we learn more.

And there are plenty of videos and other evidence of strange things happening, some people find it easy to pretend that what they don’t know or understand, no matter their personal limitations, does not exist.

The first “debunk” on that list, cold fusion, has not been debunked at all

www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/dec/13/us-scientists-confirm-major-breakthrough-in-nuclear-fusion

The first “debunk” on that list, cold fusion, has not been debunked at all

What about the rest?

The number of dogs changes in that story- says 4 at the start and 3 at the end

Based on what evidence do you claim ‘most hauntings ’ are poltergeists?

‘Most hauntings’ as described on Mn are a farrago of sleep paralysis, stuff glimpsed when half-asleep or in poor light, half-memories from early childhood or the behaviour of young children or pets, superstition about death, pure coincidence and people getting unnerved by unfamiliar noises in strange houses — and stringing these into a ‘haunting’ narrative..

Well no, the other 3 dogs that were left behind, she had one with her. Although I think after all these years everyone knows it's likely it was a short story. Same as the man in the night club one that's been doing the rounds on here forever

Absolutely. I mean, comparatively effective fiction by the standards of what passes for ‘woo’ experiences on Mn — remember Tristan, Molly and the Ill-fated glamping pods?

It rings a bell, I remember the slenderman one where the op and bf just make it to the front door, any slenderman talk gives me the creeps though 🤣