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To think this is the fairest way to share center parcs cost?

525 replies

needabreak5 · 23/01/2023 18:31

Am I right that this is the best way to split the cost of £1500 for a 4 bed lodge:

Room 1 - family 1: 2 adults and 1 DC (18 months) pays £375
Room 2 and 3 - family 2: 2 adults and 2 DC (age 4 and 6) pays £750
Room 4 - family 3 (parents/in-laws of adults and grandparents of all DC) pays £375

please let me know if you’d split differently?

OP posts:
MatronicO6 · 23/01/2023 22:02

Sugarfree23 · 23/01/2023 21:53

But a 4 bed will have bigger kitchen and a bigger living area. Everyone sharing will benefit from that extra space.

Paying per room is very unfair, when you consider the children are non-earners. It's also setting the precident what happens in 6 mths time when the baby is now 2 and a bigger lodge is required? Do they pay for an extra full room or half room?

I am sure it is and I personally would be happy to split the cost 3 ways.

But with the current financial pressures people may be under, I would understand if people wanted to pay in the way suggested.

SpringtimeCherries · 23/01/2023 22:04

No I’d divide it by 3 as you are also all sharing the same living spaces and kitchen. And it just makes things feel friendlier!

Shodan · 23/01/2023 22:04

I would think that family a should get some kind of discount tbh, seeing as there will be three of them in one room, while each of the other rooms will only have two people in...

Ottil · 23/01/2023 22:07

Are you all planning on eating out together? I'd start the spreadsheet now 😂

mewkins · 23/01/2023 22:07

rookiemere · 23/01/2023 21:59

Oh and I never get this argument about having more shared space with a bigger lodge that everyone benefits from. You get more space because it's needed for more people.

I say make a fair split by bedrooms now or it will get increasingly complex as DCs get older. We had to stop the extended family holiday this year as we were ok paying a disproportionate amount when everyones DCs were younger, but less amusing now they are earning adults.

If, for the sake of argument, family 2 also had an 18 month old who was sleeping in their room and they all decided on a 3 bed villa (between 6 adults and 2 toddlers) you would hate yourself for not booking the 4 bed with double the living space 😆😆😆

Sugarfree23 · 23/01/2023 22:07

Simplelobsterhat · 23/01/2023 22:01

What's earning got to do with it? If one parent is a stay at home parent, but in the other couple both work, would that affect how much they should pay? Children don't get to go on holiday for free in any other situation because they don't earn. Their parents have to choose their holidays, including whether to go on group holidays based on whether they csn afford to take the whole family, not just the earners! (Unless someone has explicitly offered to treat them / given as a gift).

Yes I have been to center parcs. If the distribution of people in rooms was even I would say pay per room. As it's not, and the family of 3 will presumably use more then 1/4 of other facilities, then per person works I think.

The amount of people here who would happily expect a couple to pay the same as a family of 4 is ridiculous!

Read my other post, dividing by room meant our 3 year old who spent most nights in our bed ended up costing the same as two adults.

How is that fair?

ChrisPPancake · 23/01/2023 22:07

If I was family 2 I'd be declining to come based on that split. Unless it's a 4 room place and they're having 2 rooms?

Simplelobsterhat · 23/01/2023 22:09

mewkins · 23/01/2023 21:57

But generally children are charged less eg. Swimming, theme park, cinema etc. I can't think of many day activities that adults and children do that charge the same for children even though they take up the same amount of space (eg. A whole seat at a cinema etc).

True, in many cases, so maybe children count as half could be fair, but not not paying at all.

Particularly as I believe in center parcs they charge per lodge not per person, so if the family of 4 went on their own they would be paying the same for a 2 bed lodge as 2 couples would if they shared a 2 bed lodge. So it's not comparable to the cinema.

Simplelobsterhat · 23/01/2023 22:10

ChrisPPancake · 23/01/2023 22:07

If I was family 2 I'd be declining to come based on that split. Unless it's a 4 room place and they're having 2 rooms?

My understanding was that's exactly what is happening?

ChrisPPancake · 23/01/2023 22:14

Simplelobsterhat · 23/01/2023 22:10

My understanding was that's exactly what is happening?

I misread Blush
i still don't necessarily think that's fair though. I think I'd discount the kids? Split the cost between adults only maybe.

Whattaboutit · 23/01/2023 22:14

If it was a family trip I’d probably just split it 3 ways, on the assumption that grandparents enjoy spending time with the kids so the whole trip is a win/win for them.

With friends then we all pay for the rooms we use, as in your original breakdown.

Simplelobsterhat · 23/01/2023 22:16

Sugarfree23 · 23/01/2023 22:07

Read my other post, dividing by room meant our 3 year old who spent most nights in our bed ended up costing the same as two adults.

How is that fair?

Because she literally did cost the group the same as the couple for accomodation. You needed an extra bedroom for her. However, yes that does seem a bit much hence me saying I think if the split of people in rooms is uneven, paying per person (or maybe even only half for children) is fair. I just don't think a childless couple should pay the same as a couple with 2 kids!

Greensleevevssnotnose · 23/01/2023 22:20

Divide by the 7 adults kids go free

Ottil · 23/01/2023 22:21

The family of 4 will still be getting double the use of the facilities / communal space / bathrooms than the couple, so I really can't understand why people are suggesting a 3 way split!

I guess because that's how we've always done it, before DC, after DC, and in every permeation of family members. We've always seen it as a group on holiday together, rather than three separate families striving for absolute financial fairness.

It's a much nicer way of doing it. Anyone who might 'benefit' from that arrangement usually brings a few extra bottles of wine and a nice cheese selection or something. A nod to fairness, without the spreadsheets and splitting hairs Grin

Sugarfree23 · 23/01/2023 22:25

Will the family of 3 be happy to pay the same as the family of 4 in a years time when their 2 yo is 3?

JudgeRudy · 23/01/2023 22:26

Highabovethetrees · 23/01/2023 21:36

But unlike hotel rooms, at Centre Parcs, the cost also includes the park and all the amenities, including swimming and playgrounds etc. And obviously the rest of the lodge! It's not fair to pay double just for one extra (small!) child. The rooms are literally just so every one gets a good night's sleep!

YABU OP.

Well yes, we get that it includes all the amenities ....of which family 2 are using pretty double! OK, arguably you could say that family 1 have 3 people, so they should pay more than grandparents but less than family 2. But then if they're paying 1/9 for toddler then I'd want 1/9 of chalet. You're saying it's just somewhere to get a good night's sleep. I disagree. A room to yourself is essential otherwise there wouldn't be arguments about who's sleeping in the living room.

Shamoo · 23/01/2023 22:27

Pay per room at CP, without a doubt. Why should one family get twice as many bedrooms as the others for the same price?! We always get a second room for our DD as we don’t like to share with her, it wouldn’t cost my mind to think I should basically charge other people for the luxury of her having her own room!

RuffledRaven · 23/01/2023 22:29

Aphrathestorm · 23/01/2023 19:58

I've used maths to calculate it.

In most situations a child is charged half the rate of an adult.

There are 6 adults and 3 DCs.

So 7.5 adult equivalent.

£1500 divided by 7.5 is 200.

So £200 per adult and £100 per DC.

Family 1: £500
Family 2: £600
Family 3: £400

This seems fair.

This kind of a split seems fair to me too.

Dutchesss · 23/01/2023 22:29

The £500 £600 £400 split is the fairest. Yes one family will get two rooms but they that's just for sleeping. Everyone will be using the communal spaces, swimming pools and bathrooms. If the two bedroom lodge is £1000 then the first and last families would pay £500 each if they went together.

TugboatAnnie · 23/01/2023 22:30

I wouldn't be paying half if I was going to be lumbered with both of the shitty twin rooms. At least make sure you get exclusive use of one of the bathrooms. A fairer split would have been 450/450/600 but probably too late now.

bumpytrumpy · 23/01/2023 22:35

The initial proposed split is right. Center parcs count anyone over 2 as needing a bed and you have to get the lodge of appropriate size. The benefit of having an 18m old is they're free! The perk doesn't last long and shouldn't be taken from them prematurely.

Big family just has to live with it.

Vivi0 · 23/01/2023 22:38

I’m actually shocked at the number of people who would be prepared to allow family 2 to pay 50% of the total holiday cost.

That doesn’t sit well with me. I’d be mortified suggesting that a friend or family member pay double what I’m paying for a holiday, simply because their little 4 and 6 year old are required by the accommodation to have their own room.

It’s not like family 2’s children are going to be staying in the Eloise Suite at the Plaza. It’s a fucking shitty twin (or bunk bed) room at Centre Parks, that none of the adults would want to sleep in any way.

The cost should be split between all the adults. Essentially, a three way split.

Anything else is just embarrassing.

mrsm43s · 23/01/2023 22:42

MatronicO6 · 23/01/2023 21:40

Seeing as the fourth room is costing £350, I think it's fair the family using it pay for it.

Or equally valid - 2 bed lodge to accommodate grandparents and couple with baby would be £1000. So the extra 2 bedrooms for family of 4 cost £500. Split of £500 per family would be fair.

(I'm not necessarily saying that's how I'd split it, but a perfectly logical way of doing so)

Simplelobsterhat · 23/01/2023 22:45

Ottil · 23/01/2023 22:21

The family of 4 will still be getting double the use of the facilities / communal space / bathrooms than the couple, so I really can't understand why people are suggesting a 3 way split!

I guess because that's how we've always done it, before DC, after DC, and in every permeation of family members. We've always seen it as a group on holiday together, rather than three separate families striving for absolute financial fairness.

It's a much nicer way of doing it. Anyone who might 'benefit' from that arrangement usually brings a few extra bottles of wine and a nice cheese selection or something. A nod to fairness, without the spreadsheets and splitting hairs Grin

I agree a lot of families would split it 3 ways for ease and because they are happy to see it as joint thing. Nothing wrong with that, as long as it's the smallest family who suggested it and they genuinely don't mind (which grandparents often don't, I know). I just don't see how you can call that the 'fair' or 'right' split, and I certainly wouldn't feel i could be the one to be suggest that split if I was the one needing 2 rooms for my family!

Everyonehasavoice · 23/01/2023 22:45

4 rooms divided by £1500.
seems right
Larger family obviously need more room so it’s only fair they have to pay for it
Dont understand why they would assume others subsidise, would they?

We often shared at Centre Parks and divided the cost like this
We re off to the Ballymahon one this year with cousin. We will have 3 rooms they will have 1. We will pay 3/4 they pay 1/4.

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