Page 20 | To think this is the fairest way to share center parcs cost?

needabreak5 · 2023-01-23T18:31:24+00:00

Am I right that this is the best way to split the cost of £1500 for a 4 bed lodge: Room 1 - family 1: 2 adults and 1 DC (18 months) pays £375 Room 2 and 3 - family 2: 2 adults and 2 DC (age 4 and 6) pays £750 Room 4 - family 3 (parents/in-laws of adults and grandparents of all DC) pays £375 please let me know if you’d split differently?

Mumofsons87 · 25/01/2023 10:50

I don't think so. I would weight the children differently.
Family of 3 pay 500
Family of 4 pay 600
2 adult grandparents pay 400.
And I would expect the families with kids to get in all the groceries and just split the cost evenly between the two.

Renlea · 25/01/2023 10:59

needabreak5 · 25/01/2023 08:54

Thanks again for all the replies!

Im really just thinking of the fairest way to share the cost, there is quite a divide of opinion! Have been several times before but with another family with 2 DC that have also used 2 rooms so cost has always been an easy 50/50. I think I’m mainly torn on whether family 1 should pay anything for their DS (our nephew), given CP are not charging for him.

for those asking we won’t be splitting hairs on any of the other stuff.
E.g. For food we will have 3 meals out and each family will pay for 1 meal. We (Family 2) will pay the £5 pp deposit for each restaurant booking which effectively covers the kids food.

The other stuff we try to take turns, e.g. family 1 will do a Starbucks order in morning, then family 2 will buy drinks/pool snacks, then family 3 ice creams. just trying to have a rough feel that no one is buying too much.

Breakfast and lunch stuff Family 2 will bring most of it. Family 1 will bring beer, wine (not a massive amount) and soft drinks. Family 3 will buy the parc-market fresh stuff/top ups when we are there (milk, bread etc).

But you were splitting 50/50 then, based on 2 sets of adults paying. Now there's 3 sets of adults paying. Either split by 3, or £575 and 2 x £462.50. No charge for baby.

T1Dmama · 25/01/2023 11:05

needabreak5 · 23/01/2023 18:58

I will check this, thanks - I think it will make it more expensive for family of four as there are lots of 3 bed lodges.

the rooms there isn’t much difference. 2 twins and 2 doubles but similar sizes, I think one of the room may be slightly bigger - family 1 will get that for the cot.

No en-suites just 2 shared bathrooms between the 4 rooms.

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right we’ll if family one are getting the biggest room to fit the cot in… and family of 4 getting 2 smaller rooms then definitely not fair for family 2 to pay double!
I’d split it half way between the difference…
family one - £480
family two - £645

guessing family two are also being stitched up with the two twin rooms??
Think I’d drop out if I was family 2 as seems a bit of a stitch up

T1Dmama · 25/01/2023 11:20

needabreak5 · 23/01/2023 19:10

So just checked same dates and

3 bed lodge is £1150 (£1149)
2 bed lodge is £1000 (£999)

So if they drop out you and the 2 adults/parents will have to find £500 per family?!? Plus share one bathroom I expect ..
mot shouldn’t be split equally but you paying the same as the 2 adults even though you have a child isn’t fair and also you paying half the family of 4 isn’t fair either…. I guess you need to ask whether when your kid is older and shares a room with the cousins… will you expect to pay half the cost of the kids room (as it’s per room) or should you expect to pay 1 third of the shared room as it should be done per child???

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 25/01/2023 11:23

T1Dmama · 25/01/2023 11:20

So if they drop out you and the 2 adults/parents will have to find £500 per family?!? Plus share one bathroom I expect ..
mot shouldn’t be split equally but you paying the same as the 2 adults even though you have a child isn’t fair and also you paying half the family of 4 isn’t fair either…. I guess you need to ask whether when your kid is older and shares a room with the cousins… will you expect to pay half the cost of the kids room (as it’s per room) or should you expect to pay 1 third of the shared room as it should be done per child???

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The OP is the one who needs two rooms for her two kids.

threatmatrix · 25/01/2023 11:25

same price per room.

T1Dmama · 25/01/2023 11:29

The OP is the one who needs two rooms for her two kids.

m what a waste of a post then! If she’s happy to pay half for her family of 4 then just split it that way and be done with it. Family of 3 gains in my opinion, but if OP is happy with that arrangement then great.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 25/01/2023 11:31

Hah I know right!

Or she's not ok with it, and wants to gauge whether she would be a CF for asking to pay less.

Silvers11 · 25/01/2023 12:45

@needabreak5
I'm assuming this is JUST for the accommodation and food and other things will be divided up as per something different.

I did some calculations below for interest. Funnily enough calculations 1 and 3 come out to be the same, but there are different ways to get there!

If it were me I do think I'd be making the argument for £500 each family - but I'd be using the argument that if the Grandparents and Family #1 were going on there own it would cost £500 less than if Family 2 were also going who then need 2 extra rooms - but the additional cost of those 2 rooms is only £500 so that's what family 2 ought to be paying. It's not really a charge from the company on each bedroom because the costs also include having a kitchen, bathroom, other facilities all shared from which everyone benefits. I think it's not fair to expect you to pay double

S0 the calculations I did to get there:

Divide the cost by 3 ( 3 families @£500 each)
You say a 3 bed room would have cost £1149 . Divide that by 3 = £383 per family PLUS the difference of £ (£1500 - £1149 - £351)for the family needing 2 rooms = £ 734 for family #2
However ( and more fairly IMO) you say a 2 bed option would be £999 so divide by 2 to give £500 each family going if Family 2 weren't going and then add on the cost of Family 2 going as well = 500

THIS IS YOUR OPTION - Since every child needs a bed but they are not charging for the baby ( and we're only talking accommodation here) divide £1500 by 8 ( minus the baby) = £187.50 per person(adult OR paying child) which will work out at
a) Family #1 = £375
b) Family #2 = £750
c) Family #3 = £375

It doesn't change an awful lot if you divide by 9 to include the baby to be honest.

PerfectPlum123 · 25/01/2023 13:49

Have you looked at Butlin's? Loads more stuff to do and you can each have your own accommodation to your liking. You can add dining so no random food costs. I'm sure it would be much cheaper than CP too

TheBigWangTheory · 26/01/2023 09:24

PerfectPlum123 · 25/01/2023 13:49

Have you looked at Butlin's? Loads more stuff to do and you can each have your own accommodation to your liking. You can add dining so no random food costs. I'm sure it would be much cheaper than CP too

Much cheaper, sure. But also completely fucking hideous. I'd rather stay home and go to work, hell I'd rather be in hospital.

Lavendergreen34 · 26/01/2023 10:17

TheBigWangTheory · 26/01/2023 09:24

Much cheaper, sure. But also completely fucking hideous. I'd rather stay home and go to work, hell I'd rather be in hospital.

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Blimey it’s not that bad 🤣 we love Butlin’s!

Bookworm20 · 26/01/2023 10:42

This just seems nuts. You're one big family basically, so just split the accomodation between the 3 sets of adults.

Ok, so a 4 bed is more and the additional bedroom is needed for 2 of the kids, but its still cheaper than each couple getting their own place.
Plus you're all together, holidaying as a family, which is the entire point of the holiday isn't it?

AnotherEmma · 26/01/2023 19:45

needabreak5 · 25/01/2023 08:54

Thanks again for all the replies!

Im really just thinking of the fairest way to share the cost, there is quite a divide of opinion! Have been several times before but with another family with 2 DC that have also used 2 rooms so cost has always been an easy 50/50. I think I’m mainly torn on whether family 1 should pay anything for their DS (our nephew), given CP are not charging for him.

for those asking we won’t be splitting hairs on any of the other stuff.
E.g. For food we will have 3 meals out and each family will pay for 1 meal. We (Family 2) will pay the £5 pp deposit for each restaurant booking which effectively covers the kids food.

The other stuff we try to take turns, e.g. family 1 will do a Starbucks order in morning, then family 2 will buy drinks/pool snacks, then family 3 ice creams. just trying to have a rough feel that no one is buying too much.

Breakfast and lunch stuff Family 2 will bring most of it. Family 1 will bring beer, wine (not a massive amount) and soft drinks. Family 3 will buy the parc-market fresh stuff/top ups when we are there (milk, bread etc).

Lots of people have suggested £200 per adult and £100 per child (so F1 £500 + F2 £600 + F3 £400), that seems to be reasonably fair and quite a popular option so why not do that?

I also think you're going to massively short-change yourself when it comes to restaurant bookings. Why would you pay the £5pp deposit each time? Even if you don't pay a deposit for the kids that would still be £30 each time and surely 2 kids meals don't cost that?!

And you are also planning to bring most of the breakfast and lunch food - why?

It honestly sounds as if you're trying to subsidise the trip for everyone else and I can't think why, unless you are financially better off than the others.

I'm inclined to agree with the PP who suggested a kitty for food and drink while you're there. Put in £100 each per adult and something less per child (£50? £30?) and see how it goes.

PeachyPeachTrees · 26/01/2023 21:24

We went on holiday with exactly same number of people. GPs had double room. sil &bil & baby in cot had biggest room with ensuite. We had double room with ensuite. Our 2 children had twin room, shared bathroom with GPs. We paid 50%. GPs 25%. sil &bil 25%.
It's a tricky one as sil &bil get good deal. We are using 2 rooms but our young DCs are not earning. If I'm honest I would have preferred if we could have paid a slightly lower percentage but not as low as split 3rd each as 3 households.

PeachyPeachTrees · 26/01/2023 21:31

When I went on holiday with my Dad and DB the split was again worked out by rooms. We had double for the 2 of us, twin room for our 2 DCs. My Dad had double just for him and my DB had double just for him. We paid 50% they paid 25% each.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 27/01/2023 12:20

PeachyPeachTrees · 26/01/2023 21:24

We went on holiday with exactly same number of people. GPs had double room. sil &bil & baby in cot had biggest room with ensuite. We had double room with ensuite. Our 2 children had twin room, shared bathroom with GPs. We paid 50%. GPs 25%. sil &bil 25%.
It's a tricky one as sil &bil get good deal. We are using 2 rooms but our young DCs are not earning. If I'm honest I would have preferred if we could have paid a slightly lower percentage but not as low as split 3rd each as 3 households.

What does the fact that children aren't earning have to do with the situation?

Zoeyclash · 27/01/2023 12:54

You must be one of the adults in Family 1. You seem too ok with the arrangement to be any of the others.

HoldingTheDoor · 27/01/2023 12:59

What does the fact that children aren't earning have to do with the situation?

I've seen a few people mention that. Is it really news to people that they have to pay for the children they chose to have?

TheBigWangTheory · 27/01/2023 13:30

HoldingTheDoor · 27/01/2023 12:59

What does the fact that children aren't earning have to do with the situation?

I've seen a few people mention that. Is it really news to people that they have to pay for the children they chose to have?

Yes that is weird. If one of the adults is a SAHP, are they free too? What about the GP's, if retired, are they free? Maybe only 2 or 3 of the 6 adults and 3 kids are actually earning right now, they can split it?

Sugarfree23 · 27/01/2023 13:52

Children who aren't earning should not be paying the same as an adult. Different once kids are young adults.

They are going on a extended family holiday they shouldn't be charging the same for kids as adults.

I also don't think Op paying the £5 deposit for every meal is right either that's 8×5=£40 no way are her kids eating £40 every meal. She is really short changing herself. And needs to be careful she isn't paying far more than she should be.

PeachyPeachTrees · 27/01/2023 14:01

TheBigWangTheory · 27/01/2023 13:30

Yes that is weird. If one of the adults is a SAHP, are they free too? What about the GP's, if retired, are they free? Maybe only 2 or 3 of the 6 adults and 3 kids are actually earning right now, they can split it?

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If you notice, I paid for our room and our kids room. A lot of posters have said kids should be free or pay half as they don't earn. I can see their logic that's all. At the end of the day the families just need to do a fair split that everyone is happy with.

Maroon85 · 27/01/2023 15:18

Sugarfree23 · 27/01/2023 13:52

Children who aren't earning should not be paying the same as an adult. Different once kids are young adults.

They are going on a extended family holiday they shouldn't be charging the same for kids as adults.

I also don't think Op paying the £5 deposit for every meal is right either that's 8×5=£40 no way are her kids eating £40 every meal. She is really short changing herself. And needs to be careful she isn't paying far more than she should be.

Maybe someone should tell Center Parcs this, because they charge exactly the same for 2 adults and 4 children in a 3 bed lodge, as they do for 6 adults in a 3 bed lodge.

As other have said, if you have children you pay for them and shouldn't expect other people to subsidise them, even if those other people are family members.

HoldingTheDoor · 27/01/2023 16:11

Children who aren't earning should not be paying the same as an adult. Different once kids are young adults.

No one is shaking them down for the contents of their piggy banks. The people who chose to have them and who chose to book a holiday, pay for them.

sanityisamyth · 27/01/2023 16:26

If the children weren't present, fewer rooms would be needed. This would result in small accommodation which would have been cheaper. So the parents of the children needing the extra room need to pay the extra. 2 rooms instead of 1 is fair.