Is being dry at night parenting or nature?

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I have DS nearly 11 and DD 8.

DD is just getting dry at night. She still wears a pull up but the last couple of weeks they’ve been dry in the morning and she’s either got up for a wee in the night or first thing in the morning.

DS however has never had a dry night in his life. Is it something we’re doing or not doing? I thought it was something would happen naturally without training for, unlike potty training, but it’s not. His school residential is fast approaching, he understandably doesn’t want to go if he is still in pull ups, I’d love for him to be dry to be able to go. Any advice would be gratefully received.
This is our routine… he wears a pull up to bed, takes desmopressin 1 hour before bed. This does cut down his urine output overnight but doesn’t stop it. Without desmopressin he would wee 3 times in the night on average, with it he wee’s twice I’d say. The reason we continue with the desmopressin even though it’s not fully effective is that without it, he would wee too much for the pull up to hold and wets the bed. Taking the medication at least makes it contained in the pull up.
Just for clarity, he sleeps all through this, he is such a deep sleeper (which I think is his problem), it’s me getting up checking in the early days to see if/when he had wee’d to give a proper description to the Dr before they prescribed desmopressin.

He only drinks water, occasional lemonade. Doesn’t drink an hour before bed. Wee’s before going to bed. On advice of Dr we make sure he has big drinks throughout the day so as to make his bladder work during the day.

Sorry for the long post but I’m willing to try anything to get him on his residential 🤞🤞

Just on the residential, for my son we packed a set of pyjamas for each night with a pull-up inside it so he could pull the whole thing on and off and then bundle pyjama-plus-pull-up in his laundry bag to come home. It worked completely fine for him.

I've been told this is genetic, so nature. This sounds awful for all of you, sorry. Maybe worth researching if it's something that stops when puberty kicks in... ?

I agree that it’s nature. My DD was dry overnight from about 3, reverted for a short time at 5 and fine ever since. DS took several years, he was about 10/11 before he was consistently dry. Like you, we tried an alarm and he slept through it (I didn’t). 😂 He did worry about sleepovers like Cub Scout camps, but he wore a pull-up under his pajamas and quietly binned it in the morning - I'm sure other kids did the same. Now he’s 14 and never wets the bed. I think puberty must play a role.

All my children have been under the enuresis clinic for years. They've continually been wet at night.

We've tried everything including alarms and tablets.

Each of them stopped being wet at night about the age of 14 when there was a change in their hormones.

The specialist said it can be a family thing, especially if it affected either of their parents!

Definitely nature. I had same problem growing up. But think got better not worrying about it as much. I had years stressing with pull ups , alarms, sleepover panic, and think that contributes. Not letting your kids think they are broken will help

Why not give the bed wetting alarm a try? I just had a look and they still sell them on Amazon.the one we had was the DryEasy one I think. Honestly they DO work. You just have to be prepared to wake DC up. And make sure they get up and go to the toilet EVERY time it sounds even if they have no pee left. They have to really wake up each time for their brain to be trained. And the sticker chart seems babyish but it does help you see progression. You'll be more likely to keep going if you see you're making improvements.

We got ours from the school nurse following a GP referral after extensive investigations.

Yes, Dp was a bedwetter until secondary school , and my youngest two DC seem set to follow