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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask if schools will close on 1st Feb?

354 replies

cosied · 17/01/2023 14:36

National teachers strike on 1st Feb so does that mean the schools are not open that day?

Has anyone received any communication from their schools relating to what impact the strikes may have?

OP posts:
ofwarren · 17/01/2023 20:15

Will it mean that teachers will be outside of schools with banners on the picket line?
Would love to nip down and show support if so.

Hummusanddipdip · 17/01/2023 20:15

Lulu1919 · 17/01/2023 20:01

Some TAs are in that union too...

Not enough support staff voted to strike. So it's only teachers that will be.

MrsHamlet · 17/01/2023 20:17

ofwarren · 17/01/2023 20:15

Will it mean that teachers will be outside of schools with banners on the picket line?
Would love to nip down and show support if so.

Our intention is not to picket the schools but to picket the local education authority.

Perfect28 · 17/01/2023 20:17

I want to picket, but I'm worried about a)abuse from the public and b)tension with colleagues who 'cross the line'.

Sucessinthenewyear · 17/01/2023 20:17

Workyticket · 17/01/2023 19:52

Teachers don't have to tell school whether they are in a union, or if they plan to strike.

No but they normal do as a matter of courtesy.

ofwarren · 17/01/2023 20:19

MrsHamlet · 17/01/2023 20:17

Our intention is not to picket the schools but to picket the local education authority.

We live not too far from the LEA too. I'm a miners daughter and strongly support industrial action.
Will definitely pop by when I know where its going to be held in our region.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 17/01/2023 20:19

My dc's school have said they expect disruption and given some examples of what might happen, full closure, partial closure, some online learning or vulnerable and keyworker children. The head will update as and when. I expect my Y11 will be in if anyone is (EHCP and GCSE year). I imagine my Y7 will be home.

PurpleFlower1983 · 17/01/2023 20:20

Woeman · 17/01/2023 20:03

NEU is the largest union I believe

Just not at my school then.

We used to all be in the NASUWT until they were absolutely terrible in January 2021. Over half of us changed on that day.

Whendovescry03 · 17/01/2023 20:25

I'm really hoping our school stays open otherwise its 8 hours of TV and ignoring my 4 year old so that I can work in the other room. And I'm probably one of the lucky ones.

Three of my relatives are teachers and they've all said they don't want or plan to strike as they don't feel its the right thing to do to the kids. So I'm hoping it's not as disruptive as they're making out.

Lougle · 17/01/2023 20:29

The Intermediate UKMT maths challenge is on 01/02. It would be good to know if school will be closed, as the kids are preparing for it.

B1993 · 17/01/2023 20:29

For those who are saying teachers who strike are doing so without considering impact to kids or that striking isn't good for them etc. please consider the fact that this is a few days of disrupted education. Teachers are underpaid and overworked (abd have been for years!) - so many of us are not functioning at 100% because of this. The expectation of teachers is incredible and something needs to change, which, WILL only benefit children in the long run.

Lockeddownagain · 17/01/2023 20:30

We are on day 3 today pr strikes in Scotland with a fourth on 6th Feb.
It's chaos ad all the holiday clubs run by councils are shut as well. It doesn't look like they are doing anything either

Chickenkorma64 · 17/01/2023 20:30

Woeman · 17/01/2023 19:58

There's not too many teachers in that union. Schools might have to collapse some year groups. The problem will be if the other unions strike.

well, it’s the union with the most members in the large secondary school where I work (England)

Workyticket · 17/01/2023 20:33

Whendovescry03 · 17/01/2023 20:25

I'm really hoping our school stays open otherwise its 8 hours of TV and ignoring my 4 year old so that I can work in the other room. And I'm probably one of the lucky ones.

Three of my relatives are teachers and they've all said they don't want or plan to strike as they don't feel its the right thing to do to the kids. So I'm hoping it's not as disruptive as they're making out.

Unless the government accept that things need to dramatically change in education you'll be doing this more often

There's been talk of 4 day weeks because classes can't be covered

Ttbhappy · 17/01/2023 20:33

Don't forget support staff might also have children at home do won't be able to cover

YouCantBeSadHoldingACupcake · 17/01/2023 20:34

I want to support the teachers striking, but I hope they can keep some of the school going. My eldest has mocks that week (and a couple of the actual gcse exams) really hope they are able to still go ahead. Will happily keep the other 6 dc at home, but will be gutted for dd if this messes up her exams.

itsgettingweird · 17/01/2023 20:34

PuttingDownRoots · 17/01/2023 19:52

Have the Government suggested the Army covers for teachers yet?

No they have suggested volunteers though!

I'm half hoping they don't have enough DBS checked volunteers to cover and half hoping they do so they can actually see what teachers have to do day in and day out.

I'm also hoping TAs don't cover either as that won't help.

I'm not a teacher but I support all striking public sector workers who are finally making a stand against real time pay and budget cuts.

Even more so after learning today there's millions to push through the removal of EU from all the workers rights legislation and they are going to affect the rights of 8 million owners of which 3/4 are expected to be woman. And woman are more often teachers and nurses.

itsgettingweird · 17/01/2023 20:37

noblegiraffe · 17/01/2023 19:57

they'll still have to consider staff/pupil ratios,

The government was very quick to point out that there aren't any staff pupil ratios past the age of 7.

I was going to point that out!

Not even in send education.

Under that it's 30 per class but I would be interested to know if that's 30 per teacher only and if TAs and lunch staff have ratios they must adhere to.

phlebasconsidered · 17/01/2023 20:39

@watchfulwishes thankyou so much for your support.

Reading through this thread this evening after getting home your reply stood out.

I teach in a PSU. The excluded and very needy students that don't fit elsewhere. This sector is growing. Tls you a lot. This is after 19 years in mainstream.

And I can tell you this- schools are on their knees.Schools and special schools, and PSU and FE. I'm seeing more and more referrals with less money because the system is collapsing. Really dying.

I've taught since 2000. In retrospect, I taught in a golden time during the Blair years. I had books, paper, a photocopying budget, money to run clubs and LEA support. It's very different now. My photocopying budget for this half term is £5.00.

My own children are almost out of ks4. I am thankful because I genuinely see the whole system struggling. Fund it. Value it. Respect the staff and their public sector values. Keep them. Don't treat them like shit and hound out thè older, more expensive teachers. Be honest about what the job entails, renumerate it fairly and make it a job worth having again.

There is no way as a graduate now, given my time again, i'd teach. And that is horrifying. We surely want bright graduates, as I was, to teach?

WonderingWanda · 17/01/2023 20:41

Teachers can sign up to the NEU anytime up to and even on the day of the strike and then participate in strike action. Quite a few NASUWT members in my school have already signed up.

NellePorter · 17/01/2023 20:41

Aren't the other unions balloting again? If this happens I think most schools will have to close.

amonsteronthehill · 17/01/2023 20:42

I hope non-NEU teachers and HLTAs realise that they CAN and SHOULD refuse to cover a striking teacher! We are striking for their benefit too! Just because their unions and members didn't get enough ballots, doesn't mean that they won't benefit from any negotiations.

Can they? Can 'regular' TAs and 1:1 TAs refuse to cover as well? Legally?

Setyoufree · 17/01/2023 20:43

There's due to be a train strike that day as well, so unless school is running totally as normal I'll probably keep them at home. There's no point in them going in for a day of being crowd controlled, they'll get better education from YouTube 😬

MrsHamlet · 17/01/2023 20:44

YouCantBeSadHoldingACupcake · 17/01/2023 20:34

I want to support the teachers striking, but I hope they can keep some of the school going. My eldest has mocks that week (and a couple of the actual gcse exams) really hope they are able to still go ahead. Will happily keep the other 6 dc at home, but will be gutted for dd if this messes up her exams.

Guidance is that public exams go ahead. Teachers don't get involved in those so they should be protected.

amonsteronthehill · 17/01/2023 20:45

watchfulwishes · 17/01/2023 20:00

The children will be fine, and would be far better off if the government is forced to respond properly to teachers' reasonable demands. You don't care about kids if you don't care about teachers.

I agree with watchfulwishes.

If you don't care about teacher's working conditions, pay and what they're having to deal with in schools, then you don't care about children. Because schools are grossly underfunded, understaffed, and teachers are quitting in droves and almost impossible to replace in some subjects/locations, and many people who would have considered teaching are being put off. There won't be enough teachers if this continues in this manner.