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To ask if schools will close on 1st Feb?

354 replies

cosied · 17/01/2023 14:36

National teachers strike on 1st Feb so does that mean the schools are not open that day?

Has anyone received any communication from their schools relating to what impact the strikes may have?

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TheNinthLock · 17/01/2023 21:37

Swissmountains · 17/01/2023 21:21

I have just emailed our head and offered to run a Greek mythology day, I have enhanced dbs etc and can help out.

Support staff can easily set story writing or poetry. It can be done.

I can’t believe this is planned so soon after the pandemic.Some children are already so behind, many with significant mental health problems.
Time to step up and fill the void if you can. Our poor children deserve so much more.

Do you really not see how counter productive this is?

Yes, our children deserve so much more!
They deserve school buildings that are safe and clean.
They deserve well enthusiastic, motivated teachers delivering engaging lessons.
They deserve to learn using a multitude of resources and materials.
They deserve a rich offering of extra curricular activities.
They deserve adequate pastoral care within school.

They are getting none of this.

This is why teachers are striking. So your children get what they deserve. Support them, don’t undermine them.

MrsHamlet · 17/01/2023 21:37

If you're not currently a member of any union, join one. Preferably one whose policies you agree with.

pleasehelpwi3 · 17/01/2023 21:38

Shinyandnew1 · 17/01/2023 21:35

Teachers got a nearly 9% payrise a few months ago.

Did they really? Do you have a link to that please?

It would be fascinating reading for all those teachers who didn't receive it.

I didn't. I got 5%, ie a 6% pay cut.

June2008 · 17/01/2023 21:39

@Flameshame you're taking utter rubbish. The vast majority of teachers did not get a 9% pay rise. And the maximum a teacher with no responsibility can get paid is £43,685 outside of London.

BrutusMcDogface · 17/01/2023 21:40

I don’t think teachers’ pay is the biggest issue right now. It’s hard to explain that to our LSAs at school (special school) who mainly seem to think that they could do the job better and that we are grossly overpaid.

Twiggywinkle13 · 17/01/2023 21:42

We’re going through this in Scotland and the schools are closing the days the strikes are. Surely the same thing will happen?

Flameshame · 17/01/2023 21:44

Yes sure. Here is the link. www.tltp.co.uk/blog/teachers-pay-rise-2022-2023-what-the-increase-means-for-you

also see here www.tes.com/magazine/analysis/general/teacher-pay-rises-schools-strike-everything-you-need-know?amp

the whole reason there’s a CoL crisis is inflation is so high. This affects everyone and between 5-9% salary increase is not bad by most measures.

Pleasepleasepleaseno · 17/01/2023 21:44

Well i support the teachers right to strike BUT I want to know if the school will be open or not. I really think teachers should have to tell the head or the head should just go ahead and decide to shut the school in advance.
I can't go to work if school is shut. Which means I won't get paid. I could just about accept that being the case because I do support teachers (although I get paid a LOT less and really can't afford to lose the days pay) but if I don't know then I'm going to have to lose a day's pay on the off chance. Which is shit frankly. And I'm sure I'm not alone. surely teachers care about parents in this situation enough to just tell the head numbers? They say if you care about kids support the teachers- I agree, but support parents too!

FunctionalSkills · 17/01/2023 21:45

@MrsHamlet Not what I meant. I don't know which days my kids school will actually close yet. Which is part of a strike isn't it really.

neverbeenskiing · 17/01/2023 21:45

CongaLine · 17/01/2023 19:50

I work in a school and we haven't been told anything yet.

Same here. Not a word.

MrsHamlet · 17/01/2023 21:46

They probably don't know yet. There are lots of conversations to be had in schools before they can make those announcements.

cosied · 17/01/2023 21:47

Is it that teachers have tried to have discussions through their unions and have not been heard or have they jumped straight to strike action?

What are they asking for and what if anything have they been offered so far?

I back them 100% by the way, same as nurses.

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BlackeyedSusan · 17/01/2023 21:51

MrsHamlet · 17/01/2023 20:01

I quite fancy having a go at driving a train though...

Oo that might get me back working part time, if I get to drive a big yellow ambulance or a train as part of the job.

Cookiecrisps · 17/01/2023 21:51

Flameshame · 17/01/2023 21:28

I’d rather any additional government money went into the actual schools which are having such bad funding problems. Teachers got a nearly 9% payrise a few months ago. More than the 0% I got.

A teacher on the main pay scale can earn anything from £28,000 to £44,756.
On the upper scale, a teacher will earn anything from £40,625 to £53,482.

The major issue for me is that the current pay rise (which incidentally is recommended at 5% by the STRB for more experienced teachers) has not been funded by the government so the money must be taken from existing school budgets. This means the children are already missing out due to the squeeze on resources.

It is interesting that you chose to write the pay range in your post. Schools are broke so very few experienced teachers would be on the maximum money quoted and those who are work in London.

I feel that if we value experience in other industries then we should be prepared to pay for it in teaching to retain the skilled staff who mentor the ECTs. I have read countless stories of experienced teachers, who have had exemplary teaching records for years, being bullied out of schools. The common denominator is the cost of their wages.

noblegiraffe · 17/01/2023 21:51

This affects everyone and between 5-9% salary increase is not bad by most measures

Except the one that counts, which is the rate of inflation.

Fixesplease · 17/01/2023 21:52

People appear to have forgotten just how bloody hard it was to reach our kids during lockdown as non teachers!

I asked as DS's school this morning, ( small village primary) the head and a couple of TAs were outside to greet the kids.
Head basically said she isn't allowed to ask, but given her own kids school teachers are likely to strike along with 75% of her staff's kids teachers she'll have no option but to close.

I fully support the strikes, the schools are sinking under the weight of budget cuts / pay and conditions.
I want happy, fulfilled teachers and TAs to educated my DS (Not random solders of parents thanks!) , they shouldn't have to strike but I back them all the way.

GlassBunion · 17/01/2023 21:53

I hope they close .
Alas I don't think they will.

Shinyandnew1 · 17/01/2023 21:54

FunctionalSkills · 17/01/2023 21:45

@MrsHamlet Not what I meant. I don't know which days my kids school will actually close yet. Which is part of a strike isn't it really.

I can't imagine any school has been able to release that information to parents yet! The strike was only announced yesterday early evening.

Fixesplease · 17/01/2023 21:55

Also MN, you really need an edit button!!

^^ sorry for all the autocorrect/ fatfingers errors.
😬

pleasehelpwi3 · 17/01/2023 21:57

Oxterguff · 17/01/2023 21:26

🙄

Based on your bizarre logic of wanting to undermine strikes, I might:

a) email train companies and tell them I have a driving licence, and I've also seen Speed in the 90s, so I could probably help them out.
b) and if those pesky liberal lawyers go on strike again, I can help out as I've watched Suits (it's American- doesn't matter, most of the laws are the same) and I also know someone who did jury service.
c) As for the doctors, that'll be really easy to help as I've been to hospital before and my mum's cousin has even played a dead body in Casualty a few times, so I could ask her for advice. I could be a consultant for the day!
I am sure the support staff can easily set it all up for me.

I'm sure the last thing a HT would want is a strike breaking amateur in their school all day, with a DBS from somewhere else, who would need to be supervised.
But really- do you not understand why we are striking? It's so much more than just pay, it's about shitstorm of underfunding that is state schools under this Conservative government.

Fourdayweekplease · 17/01/2023 21:58

Swissmountains · 17/01/2023 21:21

I have just emailed our head and offered to run a Greek mythology day, I have enhanced dbs etc and can help out.

Support staff can easily set story writing or poetry. It can be done.

I can’t believe this is planned so soon after the pandemic.Some children are already so behind, many with significant mental health problems.
Time to step up and fill the void if you can. Our poor children deserve so much more.

My lower ability y10 boys would throw pens at you as well as insults, and mock your Greek myths. The behaviour is challenging for class teachers, let alone cover or supply, and let alone a random in the middle of a strike when loads of other schools are off = party time.

I have put blood, sweat and tears into getting them engaged since September. I'm now at a point where they give me reasonable enough respect and produce a half page of ok written work per lesson.

We are currently doing Macbeth and it is hell. Lessons are a balancing act of cajoling, gallows humour, sarcasm, the odd film clip, a constant steer back on track of any - irrelevant and rude, often insulting, sometimes sexually crude or inappropriate + class conversation, a mix of (mostly unfocused) paired and group work to break up the limited independent work they're capable of, appealing to their nicer natures which DO exist.. sometimes begging! And at times, kahoots and chocolate. I frequently involve SLT and issue sanctions, phone parents, put them on report etc. It is exhausting. I psyche myself up for them daily. And, according to the wider school and colleagues, they LIKE me.

i work with a colleague who is ex army. He's done various tours of duty and says even that has not prepared him for this job.

I think I can safely say, you do not.Have.A.Clue. about what our job, daily, entails. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes and all that.

Good luck with Greek day and poetry though. ☘️👍

MrsHamlet · 17/01/2023 21:58

I can actually drive a train. Next time my train to work is cancelled, I will alert the TOC and drive it myself.

Wingingit11 · 17/01/2023 21:59

Pleasepleasepleaseno · 17/01/2023 21:44

Well i support the teachers right to strike BUT I want to know if the school will be open or not. I really think teachers should have to tell the head or the head should just go ahead and decide to shut the school in advance.
I can't go to work if school is shut. Which means I won't get paid. I could just about accept that being the case because I do support teachers (although I get paid a LOT less and really can't afford to lose the days pay) but if I don't know then I'm going to have to lose a day's pay on the off chance. Which is shit frankly. And I'm sure I'm not alone. surely teachers care about parents in this situation enough to just tell the head numbers? They say if you care about kids support the teachers- I agree, but support parents too!

Completely agree. I don’t understand how the majority of people on here seem entirely unphased at losing almost a weeks wages (4 days of strikes) which I cannot afford at all at the moment. Everyone I know who’s relaxed about it has a non working parent to care for kids

Wheelz46 · 17/01/2023 22:00

I have been reading on the news articles that the non striking teachers may be asked to upload work to students remotely.

Well I am all for the teachers striking and support them all the way, they do an amazing job, certainly for my kids.

However, there is no way, I am going back to homeschooling, even for 1 day 😆

Helpyou · 17/01/2023 22:01

Surely it's better for schools to close for bigger disruption? Unless people don't agree with the strikes. I for one am supporting those teachers.