Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

Can't get any job

238 replies

Desperatetime · 17/01/2023 09:36

I'm so upset with everything please go easy on me.
My dp has been in the county 12 years with no work permission and has recently obtained his leave to remain so now as the right to work we have been together 6 years and I have been struggling along to support us both and I have also been using a inheritance to get by as well but now money has run out and we have nothing. I'm not in the best health either and we dont have enough money to cover house expenses currently we haven't a penny until the 30th of this month when I get paid low income by the way.
Since dp got his right to work he has applied for job after job only to suffer rejection after rejection this is most likely due to no work trail here in the uk so massive gap in cv which is impossible to produce. He didn't really have any skill back in his home country either. He can't get references nothing so we are stuck.
We are both in deep depression with no money I have left messages with training providers and nobody ever responds and we don't have money to pay for training he has signed on with agencies and they are not forthcoming with anything I'm not sure what to do but has anybody got any suggestions because we are heading into poverty.

OP posts:
Stompythedinosaur · 17/01/2023 11:10

I'd be astonished if he couldn't get care work.

RudsyFarmer · 17/01/2023 11:11

Is he connected with people who have gone through similar in the area? If not I wonder if there’s any Facebook groups where he could network.

viques · 17/01/2023 11:12

Desperatetime · 17/01/2023 09:50

No qualifications at all

He sounds as though he will be a real asset to the country doesn’t he? I think I remember previous posts from you. To be honest I think he might be moving on to pastures new since it doesn’t sound as though you will be able to keep him in the lifestyle he thinks he deserves.

thecatsthecats · 17/01/2023 11:12

To be fair, I've been applying for hospitality jobs near me to fit around studies. Can do any shifts etc.

But I've been rejected for "no experience", and because I have a long office based CV in senior roles. They can't be that desperate if they're turning up their nose at someone who needs a job for 12 months.

magma32 · 17/01/2023 11:12

He will need to be open to start from the ‘bottom’ and work his way up which requires patience, does he seem he will do volunteering? Warehouse, picking, night shifts. They’re the roles people in his situation usually start with, but he needs to be willing to graft and if you’re earning and using inheritance he may be thinking it’s no pressure but you need to stop using your savings.

Pringlesinthebath · 17/01/2023 11:15

I know this sounds a bit counterintuitive but maybe try entry level civil service roles? Civil service jobs is the website to look at. The applications might take time but they have robust ‘qualification blind’ recruitment processes and equality policies.

seineingefrohrenerpimmel · 17/01/2023 11:20

Haven't you posted several times before about him. I remember issues surrounding the right to remain etc.
I really don't believe he's trying hard enough OP. I don't think he really wants to work - he's become accustomed to living with you and not working. In the time he was here without a right to work there was plenty of things he could have been doing to get ready to work as soon as permission came through - voluntary work, improving his English skills - spoken and written, - things which have gone on a CV.
I live in Austria now and it's the same here as in the UK. Places are absolutely crying out for workers. The area I live in has 100% employment - imagine that!! So there are countless places needing workers and can't find them. My friends and relatives tell me it's the same in the UK. They may not be the best jobs in the world and not the best-paying but they are jobs.
I really don't understand why he can't get work in a warehouse, or care work, or cleaning, or any number of other similar jobs. I think he just doesn't want to. He's perfectly happy cocklodging with you.

Ontherainingday · 17/01/2023 11:21

I am emigrant as well and went through it. I have degree from my country but need to work in low paid jobs unfortunately. He needs to aplay wherever jobs are hospitality care etc is huge demand at the moment I have Polish friends calling me and asking if I know anybody willing to work. I think your partner has high expectation as an emigrant and needs reality check. I have better -ish job now after years of hard work not only in paid jobs but also volunteering. From my Polish cycle of people I know there is no one who works in their field and is making good money only the girls who marriage well are better off. He needs to crack in and start building his experiences.

seineingefrohrenerpimmel · 17/01/2023 11:24

Just wanted to add - when I arrived in Austria I immediately took a job cleaning while I established myself here. After a year I started my own business and have never looked back.
I went from teaching in the UK to cleaning toilets. Didn't bother me at all. It was a means to an end and has enabled me to have the outdoor lifestyle I dreamed of.
A friend also moved to Austria, couldn't get work at first as he had no German at all, so got a job in a kitchen as a kitchen help and from there worked his way up through all the professional qualifications (and language) to become a chef.
Where there's a will there's a way.

FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 17/01/2023 11:24

Has he walked into a recruitment agency that does warehousing temp roles and talked to a member of staff?

Not an online application, but face to face into an agency.

Shinygreenbeetle · 17/01/2023 11:24

Engage the help of your local job centre, immigration services, and charities specifically designed to support in these types of circumstances - there will be some available, and they will offer good advice.

stayathomer · 17/01/2023 11:25

By the way I had to add don’t be disheartened by the people above who say That they don’t know how he hasn’t got a job etc. In both mine and countless friend’s’ experiences the people who are desperate for staff hire all together then wait, while others just take their time/ don’t get back to applicants. I’ve applied for the jobs you assume you will walk into and have been told they’re planning a huge drive to fund people in x months for example. A lot of job hunting is unfortunately right place right time. Ps it sounds like it’s been tough for you both, hope you can pull out of the blue head space and try and enjoy life together as much as is possible at the moment

rumred · 17/01/2023 11:26

There's free careers and jobs advice provided via many local councils.

Google what's offered in your area, hopefully there'll be something he can access advice from. They do online and face to face, support job hunting, cv writing etc

Nevermind31 · 17/01/2023 11:26

He must have done something in the last 12 years - he can’t just have sat at home? Can that be used to bolster his CV?
if his CV looks empty for 12 years without any explanation then yes, that will look a bit weird.
but if he has done volunteering, self training anything at all, then that might help.

Onesipmore · 17/01/2023 11:27

You don't need qualifications to work in the hospitality sector pubs, bars, restaurants etc. You can also pick up cleaning jobs, or jobs at fast food outlets. Places are closing down because they can't get staff!! I feel this may be more about him not wanting to put himself out there as he has grown used to living off you.

Teaandtoast3 · 17/01/2023 11:30

I hope he gets a job soon OP. I have nothing to add but I send my best wishes

Georgiarule · 17/01/2023 11:30

He should be eligible to do his maths and English for free.

I’m north west based and there are a lot of grants that provide free training for your CSC card (building sites) the card for security on the doors and some trade qualifications. Have you had a look to see if there is anything near you

shinynewapple22 · 17/01/2023 11:31

I agree with all the posters suggesting kitchen support, warehouse or packing work .

But please not care work - unless someone has shown that they have an interest or aptitude in this area it's really not appropriate.

CitizenofMoronia · 17/01/2023 11:32

look up amazon distribution centre, they provide transport and have lots of pickup stops, they are geared up for migrant workers so lack of CV wont be an issue,

Whichwhatnow · 17/01/2023 11:41

OP an awful lot of jobs advertised on Indeed etc are (notoriously) fake - some agencies just readvertise the same jobs every week to get more people on their books. In reality that means you're just dumped into a pool with a load of other potential applicants and it's largely pure chance whether you're ever actually picked. Some of the 'agencies' aren't even real employment agencies - they're online referral agents which will pass on your details to the 'real' agencies for a fee which mean you're one step even further away from being chosen.

In my experience you get far better results physically going into agencies on the high street, filling in their registration forms and making a decent impression so that the recruiters actually think of you when something suitable comes up rather than just being another anonymous CV. Where I live (Bristol) many of my friends are signed up to multiple agencies for manual/warehouse work or jobs in the hospitality or care industries and are inundated by job offers - not always the best paid or most secure or desirable roles but once you're employed your next role is always easier to get (and will again put you at the top of the list with that agency when something else suitable comes up).

Good luck!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/01/2023 11:48

I am thinking that he should go up town and walk into every single agency he can find

Why not walk into every place with a "wanted" sign in the window instead? Unless there's some issue with how he presents in person?

I hadn't realised you'd been posting about this for some time, but if there's still been no change - even in today's casual job climate - I'd be doing some serious thinking about his motivation

BigglyBee · 17/01/2023 11:48

I was applying for care work recently, and I have no references due to being self-employed for 20 years. Most places were happy to accept personal references from anyone who knew me well enough to say I'm not likely to be a huge risk to a vulnerable person. As it turned out, my GP doesn't think my own health will stand up to care work due to a worsening respiratory condition, but I only found out about the references thing because I contacted the employers direct and asked. The only one which wouldn't was the council.

VanGoghsDog · 17/01/2023 11:49

Desperatetime · 17/01/2023 10:08

Puzzledandpissedoff I don't know what's going on because nobody is calling back maybe they are dealing with too many applications.
I am thinking that he should go up town and walk into every single agency he can find.

It can't hurt him to do this.

Also, see if there are any local charities that can support him. He could also use the time to join online language groups to improve his English.

I am surprised he's not been able to even get shifts in a warehouse, going into the agencies himself might be the difference needed here.

eggsandbaconeveryday · 17/01/2023 11:55

Can I suggest a cleaning role ? The company that I work for are crying out for cleaning staff in the west midlands. As long as he can pass a DBS then he should be fine .

Qualculator · 17/01/2023 11:57

Can he do anything with his experience of using a sewing machine? Eg advertise to make curtains, to adapt dresses, etc?
I would think about self-employment. Eg sewing, window cleaning, gardening, DIY. Everything will be easier when he passes his driving test.