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Can't get any job

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Desperatetime · 17/01/2023 09:36

I'm so upset with everything please go easy on me.
My dp has been in the county 12 years with no work permission and has recently obtained his leave to remain so now as the right to work we have been together 6 years and I have been struggling along to support us both and I have also been using a inheritance to get by as well but now money has run out and we have nothing. I'm not in the best health either and we dont have enough money to cover house expenses currently we haven't a penny until the 30th of this month when I get paid low income by the way.
Since dp got his right to work he has applied for job after job only to suffer rejection after rejection this is most likely due to no work trail here in the uk so massive gap in cv which is impossible to produce. He didn't really have any skill back in his home country either. He can't get references nothing so we are stuck.
We are both in deep depression with no money I have left messages with training providers and nobody ever responds and we don't have money to pay for training he has signed on with agencies and they are not forthcoming with anything I'm not sure what to do but has anybody got any suggestions because we are heading into poverty.

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JorisBonson · 17/01/2023 18:10

Yoyooo · 17/01/2023 17:54

Something doesn't add up - OP has posted the same story numerous times, posts again this morning and magically by the afternoon he has a job?

Yep, very convenient.

Stompythedinosaur · 17/01/2023 18:11

Care work is absolutely skilled, and I would love to see a situation where only appropriately skilled staff took this route.

But that isn't reality currently. It is an area crying out for staff, where nearly anyone with a clean CRB check can get work and learn as the go along.

MrsCarson · 17/01/2023 18:13

Tell him Good Luck OP glad to hear he's finally got something.

Trinity65 · 17/01/2023 18:16

JorisBonson · 17/01/2023 18:10

Yep, very convenient.

Sorry OP but I tend to agree here.
Had you spoken to Him about finding a job, on the back of this post, or did he come home and say he had secured one?

teraculum29 · 17/01/2023 18:20

CaitCannoli · 17/01/2023 17:48

It’s true, care work is factually classed as low skilled labour. for a reason

Maybe to start,

but every care worker need to do lots of different mandtory trainings ie fire training, health and safety, manual handling, first aid, safegarding, infection control, and in some cases also need to do medication training, fire warden and all of them need to be refreshed yearly

CaitCannoli · 17/01/2023 18:28

Yoyooo · 17/01/2023 17:54

Something doesn't add up - OP has posted the same story numerous times, posts again this morning and magically by the afternoon he has a job?

Quite an impressive turnaround

CaitCannoli · 17/01/2023 18:29

teraculum29 · 17/01/2023 18:20

Maybe to start,

but every care worker need to do lots of different mandtory trainings ie fire training, health and safety, manual handling, first aid, safegarding, infection control, and in some cases also need to do medication training, fire warden and all of them need to be refreshed yearly

Basic training doesn’t make someone not low skill.

To work at McDonald’s you need to undertake a lot of training, doesn’t make it a less low skilled position

maddiemookins16mum · 17/01/2023 18:43

Security work ?

basketofsoftkittens · 17/01/2023 19:12

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I would love to see you spend 12 hours in a care home fulfilling a carer’s role looking after people with diagnosis of varying Dementia’s.
The skills required to manage behaviours that others find challenging, support people to make choices, work with them and build a rapport to gain trust so they allow you to support them to get washed. This requires a “skilled carer”.
You wouldn’t last a week in a care role with that attitude and I can guarantee the elderly and vulnerable will be very glad for that.
Never read some so short sighted.

ShittySanta · 17/01/2023 19:25

Desperatetime · 17/01/2023 09:50

We are west midlands

Hello. As some else said, hospitality roles are crying out for people, after Covid and Brexit. Studley Castle has a few vacancies at the moment, and if you can get someone to check over his CV and give pointers?

CaitCannoli · 17/01/2023 19:27

basketofsoftkittens · 17/01/2023 19:12

I would love to see you spend 12 hours in a care home fulfilling a carer’s role looking after people with diagnosis of varying Dementia’s.
The skills required to manage behaviours that others find challenging, support people to make choices, work with them and build a rapport to gain trust so they allow you to support them to get washed. This requires a “skilled carer”.
You wouldn’t last a week in a care role with that attitude and I can guarantee the elderly and vulnerable will be very glad for that.
Never read some so short sighted.

it might require a skilled carer, that doesn’t mean that all carers are skilled

It should be a role filled with people who not only want to be there, but are skilled in all the things they should be, but due to desperation and low pay that’s sadly often not the case.

I wouldn’t trust 90% of the carers in my nans home to look after my cat, know a few from school and let’s say it’s a certain ‘type’ of person who is recruited into these roles, you also see it a lot on FB ‘I have no skills, qualifications or experience what jobs can I find locally’ and within minutes people will be commenting from care homes saying they need staff.

Unfortunately you and other posters seem to be mixing up what should happen with what does happen.

Id never be a carer because of the pay and yes, I don’t want to spend hours wiping someone’s backside, doesn’t mean those that do it are skilled or anything of the sort, just more desperate than others.

basketofsoftkittens · 17/01/2023 19:50

CaitCannoli · 17/01/2023 19:27

it might require a skilled carer, that doesn’t mean that all carers are skilled

It should be a role filled with people who not only want to be there, but are skilled in all the things they should be, but due to desperation and low pay that’s sadly often not the case.

I wouldn’t trust 90% of the carers in my nans home to look after my cat, know a few from school and let’s say it’s a certain ‘type’ of person who is recruited into these roles, you also see it a lot on FB ‘I have no skills, qualifications or experience what jobs can I find locally’ and within minutes people will be commenting from care homes saying they need staff.

Unfortunately you and other posters seem to be mixing up what should happen with what does happen.

Id never be a carer because of the pay and yes, I don’t want to spend hours wiping someone’s backside, doesn’t mean those that do it are skilled or anything of the sort, just more desperate than others.

Wow, what a judgmental and could you try and stereotype anymore.
you are really just showing your complete lack of knowledge of the care sector.
Yes there are bad carers. There are also bad bus drivers, bad teachers, bad receptionists. Does make not the job anymore skilled does it.
I am a nurse, I am skilled, I am qualified and I am experienced, I have still wiped someone’s backside as you have so kindly called put it.
That is the smallest part of their role but the one everyone focuses on. They also hold your relatives hand as they take their pasts breaths, they reassure them and give them comfort when they are scared and cannot find who they are looking for. They get attacked and hurt because the service user is not able to verbally express themselves. They do not all do that role because they cannot do anything else. People may comment that care homes are crying out for staff, that is a systemic failure not because it’s an unskilled role. You will usually find they are just members of the public with opinions such as yours rather than actual care staff or home managers.

Hoplesscynic · 18/01/2023 06:37

Coasterfan · 17/01/2023 15:06

As others have said please stop suggesting care work!!

Care work is highly skilled and requires excellent verbal and written communication skills, a passion for helping others and kindness and compassion amongst many, many other skills. It is not something anyone can do and the care sector does not want or need people who see this as a last resort!!!

That's not entirely true, I've personally seen foreign carers with very bad English - so yes they do get hired. Also many companies require Zero experience and provide full training. So not as "skilled" and "qualified" as you make it out to be.

GinoVino · 18/01/2023 07:05

I think several posters are completely missing the points made about care work (maybe deliberately in some cases). There's a lot more to being a carer than just wiping peoples backsides. Yes there are lots of unsuitable people working in care. Yes there are lots of non English speakers with poor communication skills working in care. There shouldn't be. And the point is, it shouldn't be encouraged as something that anyone can do just because they can't do anything else or they think it's an easy ride.

Desperatetime · 18/01/2023 10:41

Mistake was I think applying for everything on indeed where there are loads of applicants he just happened to call a agency yesterday and they had something.

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Desperatetime · 18/01/2023 10:43

I work in care and its the elderly sector that's the most demanding really hard work and yes alot of incontinence to deal with but somebody has to do it so it shouldn't be frowned upon.

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CallTheMobWife · 18/01/2023 10:56

GinoVino · 18/01/2023 07:05

I think several posters are completely missing the points made about care work (maybe deliberately in some cases). There's a lot more to being a carer than just wiping peoples backsides. Yes there are lots of unsuitable people working in care. Yes there are lots of non English speakers with poor communication skills working in care. There shouldn't be. And the point is, it shouldn't be encouraged as something that anyone can do just because they can't do anything else or they think it's an easy ride.

That ship has sailed.

Care work SHOULD be a highly skilled profession undertaken by qualified, professional staff with excellent skills. But in reality care work is mostly done by those who can't find something better. It's very low paid, and many care workers have limited english skills and/or any experience or qualifications of any kind.
Itr absolutely IS a job for people who can't get any other job.
It's shit, but that's the reality.

monitor1 · 18/01/2023 10:58

Coasterfan · 17/01/2023 15:06

As others have said please stop suggesting care work!!

Care work is highly skilled and requires excellent verbal and written communication skills, a passion for helping others and kindness and compassion amongst many, many other skills. It is not something anyone can do and the care sector does not want or need people who see this as a last resort!!!

In theory I completely agree with you. In practice, it doesn't pay enough for skilled people who have other options to stay.

Yoyooo · 18/01/2023 12:40

How is the job going so far today OP?

JudgeRudy · 18/01/2023 12:47

Desperatetime · 17/01/2023 09:47

His spoken English is good but he is very slow with writing.

There are lots of free ESOL courses for adults. The JobCentre can also advise on training opportunities. He might not be entitled to benefits eg UC but it will still be worth speaking with them. Its important he mixes with native English speakers to improve his language skills so any course would be worth doing. I'd suggest getting a SIA license for security work or a Forklift license for warehouse work.
Good luck

Desperatetime · 18/01/2023 12:58

Yoyoo not sure won't see him until tonight

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uncomfortablydumb53 · 18/01/2023 13:36

I suggest he actually goes into bars/ cafes/ restaurants and ask rather than apply online and ring warehouses etc
There are many positions which offer training on the job and even transport to eg food processing factories
He needs to convey that he's actually willing to start at the bottom and is enthusiastic though
Tbh I think you need to get tough and set a deadline( in your head) and if no improvement send him on his way. You've supported him for so long he's seen no reason to change

uncomfortablydumb53 · 18/01/2023 13:44

Ahh That's good news
Hope his job goes well

Desperatetime · 18/01/2023 16:43

He called me on his break today and said the job is okay but standing for long periods of time.

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LIZS · 18/01/2023 17:03

Is that an issue? First day may not be indicative of the role itself especially if training is involved. Don't let him flake unless he has another job lined up.

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