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To be really worried about proposed teacher strikes.

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katedan · 16/01/2023 13:43

In England not Scotland for context. My twin daughters are year 11 and I am terrified about the impact of teacher strikes on their GCSEs. They have not yet covered the curriculum and every day counts to get them exam ready so strike days will be disastrous for year 11 and 13 pupils ( and lots of other children especially those who are vulnerable) these kids have had their education impacted by covid and now strikes. This will make the divide between state and private schools even bigger. Do you think they will go ahead or if a safety net will be put around exam years if it does.

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MrsHamlet · 17/01/2023 20:02

LovelyLisa2 · 17/01/2023 20:00

I feel exactly the same about my daughter in year 13. She has mocks in a few weeks and also hasn’t covered all the curriculum. They have already been told they will not have any basic checks of their coursework before it goes in. 😡😡

Some coursework can't be checked. Are you certain that's not the reason why?

marmiteadict · 17/01/2023 20:03

@TeenDivided clearly it depends on your own experience as a school.

I'm thankful that your experience was better than ours

Quincythequince · 17/01/2023 20:04

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Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:04

Quincythequince · 17/01/2023 20:01

Going to report you for calling me a bully!
I feel so insulted …

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Your posts have been removed from just now, and I didn't even need to report those! So it's not me being sensitive. The talk guidelines say not to use offensive, personal insults to others.

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:05

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I'm a domestic abuse survivor, so yes, certain language it very upsetting. Can you stop now please.

Completelydonechick · 17/01/2023 20:07

Absolutely behind you the whole way! There needs to be a significant evaluation in the purpose of teaching and being a teacher!

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Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:13

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Yes, even domestic abuse survivors have opinions, but bullying behaviour sits differently. So again, please stop.

PriamFarrl · 17/01/2023 20:14

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:13

Yes, even domestic abuse survivors have opinions, but bullying behaviour sits differently. So again, please stop.

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Please stop telling people with full time jobs that they work part time.

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:14

PriamFarrl · 17/01/2023 20:14

Please stop telling people with full time jobs that they work part time.

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I did?

Getinajollymood · 17/01/2023 20:15

You did actually @Roseberry1 . I was quite irritated with it last night.

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:16

Getinajollymood · 17/01/2023 20:15

You did actually @Roseberry1 . I was quite irritated with it last night.

I posted last night and reposted it this morning that I made a mistake about that. Let me find it...

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:17

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 00:39

Seasonal workers aren't classed as full-time. My apologies, however, that teachers are considered "full time" in the same way a student is a full-time student when they do a course, etc, but not in the same way a working doing say, 40 hours a week and paid 52 weeks a year with annual leave allowance. So we were both right in our own ways, as in both terms are correct just in different ways. Apologies again for all the confusion.

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Here

Quincythequince · 17/01/2023 20:19

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:17

Here

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That’s not an apology! You still think you’re right.

That’s a non-apology in fact!

Quincythequince · 17/01/2023 20:21

Quincythequince · 17/01/2023 20:19

That’s not an apology! You still think you’re right.

That’s a non-apology in fact!

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(Awaits being reported for the temerity of having an opinion…)

Inkpotlover · 17/01/2023 20:22

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Lapun · 17/01/2023 20:23

I was a teacher for many years but mainly overseas. I have no idea of the pay scales. How much does a teacher earn when she/he starts in the profession and how much is the salary for teachers with 10 years experience? I was shocked when I read that a teacher would earn more working at Asda!

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:24

Getinajollymood · 17/01/2023 20:15

You did actually @Roseberry1 . I was quite irritated with it last night.

I do apologise for that, I think I got caught up in the whole debate going so fast. On reflection today, I do support the strike because of the ever increasing workload. I didn't think of the marking they are probably doing at home and the constant pressure to meet targets with ever-changing goal posts. So I was a bit hasty, to be honest!

Getinajollymood · 17/01/2023 20:29

Not ASDA again. We earn a lot more than supermarket cashiers at ASDA, and we don’t have to work (as in turn up) on weekends or work anti social hours, usually.

There is a lot wrong with teaching but there’s also a lot wrong with minimum wage, especially zero hour, work, and I don’t think it’s a good look when we sneer we could get more working at ASDA. For one thing, it implies looking down on those who do that although maybe that’s not the intention, and it’s also quite ignorant.

We can state what’s wrong with our profession without dragging other ‘menial’ tasks into it.

Inkpotlover · 17/01/2023 20:29

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:24

I do apologise for that, I think I got caught up in the whole debate going so fast. On reflection today, I do support the strike because of the ever increasing workload. I didn't think of the marking they are probably doing at home and the constant pressure to meet targets with ever-changing goal posts. So I was a bit hasty, to be honest!

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You can definitely delete 'probably'! I'm currently watching my DP wade through a pile of books that need to be marked before the morning. He's had hardly any time with our DC tonight.

Nice one for apologising again. Hopefully the other posters will agree to draw a line under it now.

Quincythequince · 17/01/2023 20:32

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:24

I do apologise for that, I think I got caught up in the whole debate going so fast. On reflection today, I do support the strike because of the ever increasing workload. I didn't think of the marking they are probably doing at home and the constant pressure to meet targets with ever-changing goal posts. So I was a bit hasty, to be honest!

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Fair enough Roseberry1!

Roseberry1 · 17/01/2023 20:33

Inkpotlover · 17/01/2023 20:29

You can definitely delete 'probably'! I'm currently watching my DP wade through a pile of books that need to be marked before the morning. He's had hardly any time with our DC tonight.

Nice one for apologising again. Hopefully the other posters will agree to draw a line under it now.

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I was in a school today it's also shocking just how much is put on TAs!

CrazyLadie · 17/01/2023 20:34

Jellycatspyjamas · 16/01/2023 17:30

Strikes are challenging. I’m in Scotland and apparently there will be another 4 strike days before Easter. On top of tomorrow’s and the two previous ones.

Im in Scotland too, my kids have missed two days so far with another one planned for this week and another 4 in the pipeline.

I support the right to strike, but also think the contradictory narrative around school attendance is disingenuous to say the least. On one hand children can’t possibly miss a day of school (for their mental health, to nip off on holiday early etc etc) because it will impact their learning, on the other hand a few strike days will be fine, no impact on their learning.

Strikes do have an impact on kids and parents, otherwise there would be no point in striking - strikes cause inconvenience by their very nature. If they didn’t have an impact there would be no point.

I'm in Scotland too and my son can take a mental health day, week or so before end of term it just got too much for him and he was crying and couldn't stop. I phoned the school, told what happened and the wouldn't be in and she said no bother she would put it down as a medical day.

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LilyMumsnet · 17/01/2023 20:35

Hi all

Can we have a bit of peace and love now, please?

Tigerstotty · 17/01/2023 20:39

PyjamaFan · 16/01/2023 13:59

This.

I have 23 years teaching experience but left the classroom in July 2021 and will not be returning. It's not the pay for me (I earn less now) but the ridiculous amount of work, the bad behaviour, the rude, entitled parents, the demands from government, the contempt from media and parts of the general public.

I actually hope that teachers work to rule rather than strike, then everyone will see the hours and hours of unpaid work that (most) do every week.

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Well said 👏

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