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To be really worried about proposed teacher strikes.

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katedan · 16/01/2023 13:43

In England not Scotland for context. My twin daughters are year 11 and I am terrified about the impact of teacher strikes on their GCSEs. They have not yet covered the curriculum and every day counts to get them exam ready so strike days will be disastrous for year 11 and 13 pupils ( and lots of other children especially those who are vulnerable) these kids have had their education impacted by covid and now strikes. This will make the divide between state and private schools even bigger. Do you think they will go ahead or if a safety net will be put around exam years if it does.

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Inkpotlover · 17/01/2023 10:44

MissWings · 17/01/2023 10:35

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

Yep all the passionate ones have left the building. The strikes are a good thing but all a bit late really for the farce that is the education system.

Not true that ALL of them have. Lots are still in the system, but clinging by their fingertips!

MissWings · 17/01/2023 10:48

@Inkpotlover

They are and I admire them.

Inkpotlover · 17/01/2023 10:56

MissWings · 17/01/2023 10:48

@Inkpotlover

They are and I admire them.

On behalf of my DP, thank you. It's very hard to read some of the comments on these threads when I see every day how hard he works to be a good teacher and what he sacrifices – often at our DC's expense, missing their plays, performances, even parents' evening, because he's teaching other people's kids – so it's nice when teachers are acknowledged positively. 😊

noblegiraffe · 17/01/2023 11:43

Inkpotlover · 17/01/2023 10:44

Not true that ALL of them have. Lots are still in the system, but clinging by their fingertips!

Some are managing by going part time.

GuyFawkesDay · 17/01/2023 12:08

I have deliberately stayed part time to retain my sanity

I work on my day off to give me more weekend with my family.

iloveyankeecandle · 17/01/2023 13:53

Firstly, I woke in education and fully support the strike! Teachers are humans too with bills and families to support.
Secondly, how will this pan out? Will only the teachers who are in that union strike? Or will all of them be able to?

Angelil · 17/01/2023 17:39

Frankly if they still haven’t finished the curriculum then that’s probably what you should be more worried about, rather than the strike days themselves.

opalescent · 17/01/2023 17:43

katedan · 16/01/2023 13:43

In England not Scotland for context. My twin daughters are year 11 and I am terrified about the impact of teacher strikes on their GCSEs. They have not yet covered the curriculum and every day counts to get them exam ready so strike days will be disastrous for year 11 and 13 pupils ( and lots of other children especially those who are vulnerable) these kids have had their education impacted by covid and now strikes. This will make the divide between state and private schools even bigger. Do you think they will go ahead or if a safety net will be put around exam years if it does.

The word 'terrified' is used far too freely on MN 🙄
YABU

Pants0nFir3 · 17/01/2023 17:47

Banging! Truth right there!

Underparmummy · 17/01/2023 17:55

noblegiraffe · 16/01/2023 13:59

Strikes haven’t been announced yet.

If the cohort of Y11s and 13s perform a little bit worse in their exams due to missing a couple of days of school, then the grade boundaries will be lowered. The proportion of kids gaining each grade will be exactly the same as it would have been without any strikes.

Have to say I know some Y13s to whom a day of strikes will make very little difference as they do not have a subject teacher for their A-level due to a shortage of teachers and have been self-teaching for months.

If you are terrified of the impact, please let your MP know and ask that this be copied to Gillian Keegan, Secretary of State for Education. If the NEU ballot passes threshold, she’s the one who can stop strikes happening by negotiating a deal.

Keegan will do nothing, zilch, nada. She's a horrible, useless career politician.

NeedToKnowMoreThanThis · 17/01/2023 17:59

Yes YABU, as many people have already commented in this thread.

Cumbrianmum18 · 17/01/2023 18:03

Striking teachers won’t be setting cover work. That is working. I’m a teacher and a parent of a year 11. I will be striking. Not because I personally want to be paid more but because education is in a dire state. I will strike because our kids deserve better. my y11 daughter will be fine. 3 or 4 days will make no difference to her grades. she can use strike days to revise previous content.

GreenTreesAndRainbows · 17/01/2023 18:04

Yanbu

The strikes will effect a lot of students whose lives will be directly impacted by the strikes.
A lot of parents and carers will also be negatively impacted by the strikes.
Businesses will be impacted by the strikes as more parents need to take dependent days to look after their school aged children.

One teacher on one day will be responsible for the learning of up to 7 different classes or many different lessons.

What an impact on our economy and the education of so many.

It is unreasonable that it has come to teachers having to strike, (and therefore lose pay for each day that they strike and potentially run into problems with their employers as a result of striking, along with the potential for new laws being imposed to stop them from striking, along with nurses and railway workers).

It is unreasonable that teachers don't get a fair wage despite the massive impact that they have on our economy and the personal impacts a good teacher can have on the future of so many students in their care.

YANBU, the teachers ANBU,

The Government is BU. Please write to your local MP to let then know.

Lialou · 17/01/2023 18:08

It's 4 days for god's sake

DeanJuvenal · 17/01/2023 18:11

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Honestwife · 17/01/2023 18:12

Teachers deserve to strike, the conditions and demands on them are horrendous. There is no life out of work and those with children of their own have to sacrifice the time with their children for the children they teach. Often teachers can’t attend their own children’s performances -
Parents need to take responsibility that their children are becoming independent with their learning, teachers will teach but it’s the children that need to learn to apply.

A few days here and there won’t harm any children.

MannyTeddy · 17/01/2023 18:14

By year 11 they should have been taught everything anyway, so it is a revision year. Can't they get together with their friends and revise on their own for a few days? 🙄🙄

celticprincess · 17/01/2023 18:15

HowDoYouOwnDisorder · 16/01/2023 14:02

One teachers union (Nasuwt) are not calling a strike as they did not get enough teachers to vote (they blamed the postal strike for this, in part, which is somewhat ironic)

NASUWT are possibly going to re ballot their teachers. They could still then get the go ahead.

ilovechocolate07 · 17/01/2023 18:19

I have a year 11 and I also work in schools. I'm in favour of the strikes. Your kids could be off for a few days ill any time.

EarthlyNightshade · 17/01/2023 18:23

I support strikes, although easy for me to say as won't be very inconvenienced.
I have a Y11 and am a bit surprised that so many posters are confident they have been taught everything by now.
Not the case at DS's school where weeks have been lost on supply/cover teachers, not to mention the endless catching up caused by Covid.
Will have to hope DS will use these days to revise and that teachers can teach the new content on the days they are in.

Symposium123 · 17/01/2023 18:24

Hopefully most schools will have enough teachers that realise we’re in a cost of living crisis, that there isn’t enough money to give them a 29% pay rise and that teachers shouldn’t be sheltered from the cost of living crisis at the expense of the private sector.

My DW has complained to her union (NEU) as this course of action, where a minority of teachers have voted in favour, will massively undermine support for teachers.

Chubbymoo · 17/01/2023 18:27

Your being overly dramatic

noimaginationforausername · 17/01/2023 18:27

Yadbu. My son is in year 9 and has an endless supply of shit supply teachers since the end of year 8. He had a lovely newly qualified maths teacher in September who then left in October after telling the class he realised it’s not the career for him and he can earn more money elsewhere, he most definitely can but not any child in that class considering teaching has probably been massively put off now.

His science teacher is on long term sick and he has a woman who none of them can understand, one of the boys asked her to speak a bit slower and she went mental saying it was their problem if they couldn’t understand her and that they could all get on with it then sat there and read her book!

I would rather my kids miss 4 days of school and get the pay teachers deserve and decent quality teachers.

Parentandteacher · 17/01/2023 18:29

Symposium123 · 17/01/2023 18:24

Hopefully most schools will have enough teachers that realise we’re in a cost of living crisis, that there isn’t enough money to give them a 29% pay rise and that teachers shouldn’t be sheltered from the cost of living crisis at the expense of the private sector.

My DW has complained to her union (NEU) as this course of action, where a minority of teachers have voted in favour, will massively undermine support for teachers.

It’s the vast and overwhelming majority of those who voted (which had to be more than half of those eligible).

To be really worried about proposed teacher strikes.
noblegiraffe · 17/01/2023 18:31

Hopefully most schools will have enough teachers that realise we’re in a cost of living crisis, that there isn’t enough money to give them a 29% pay rise and that teachers shouldn’t be sheltered from the cost of living crisis at the expense of the private sector.

29% payrise? What bullshit is this you are spreading?

Also, take a look at the graphs of public sector versus private sector pay if you think the private sector is the one being hard done by.

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