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Furries in IKEA

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user19888891 · 16/01/2023 07:17

www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-ikea-shoppers-confused-after-25983306?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t appropriate? Surely it’s no more appropriate to be naked in public than to walk around dresses up for a sex game? Do IKEA have a responsibility to safeguard their young guests?

I was particularly taken aback by this paragraph ;
‘Although many think it is a sexual fetish more often than not dressing up like animals is a fun escape for a community of people who enjoy expressing themselves in this way.’
is this true? I’ve never heard of this being done in a non sexual manner

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lifeturnsonadime · 17/01/2023 11:37

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:35

so you've never fancied anyone by sight, come on...

You said 'All the time'.

How is that the same as Never?

You seem keen on definitions except when you aren't.

Most people do not use bystanders in our sexual thoughts all the time.

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:37

DesertIslandCondiment · 17/01/2023 11:35

How do you know? Did you ask each and every one? They may have been laughing but you don't know how they felt.

Your children may have been bought up with Uncle Gary and their parents sat in gimp masks but most children haven't. There is really no need.

Well I know how the ones felt who were in the group we were in.

Whatineed · 17/01/2023 11:37

LangClegsInSpace · 16/01/2023 09:22

From the image these were 'puppers' not furries. Yes it's a fetish that should not be performed in public, especially not anywhere near children.

Exactly this. Plus...in the UK dogs aren't allowed in IKEA. So if you're going to fulfil the proper fantasy you should locked up at home.

picklemewalnuts · 17/01/2023 11:38

we all use bystanders in our sexual thoughts all the time

That ^^ is what women complain about. Men creeping about perving on women, mentally undressing them, using them as fantasy fodder.

Decent men dont do it. If you do it, you are not a decent man. It's grim.

People are not objects for you to lust over.

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:39

lifeturnsonadime · 17/01/2023 11:37

You said 'All the time'.

How is that the same as Never?

You seem keen on definitions except when you aren't.

Most people do not use bystanders in our sexual thoughts all the time.

whatever.

the specific level of frequency doesn't change the fact that it's a normal part of human life.

lifeturnsonadime · 17/01/2023 11:39

Well I know how the ones felt who were in the group we were in.

i'm sorry but this is absurd, you know what they told you. You can't possibly know how they felt.

Lots of children who have been subjected to abusive things lie about how they feel to their abusers.

KettrickenSmiled · 17/01/2023 11:40

Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t appropriate?
I hope so.

Surely it’s no more appropriate to be naked in public than to walk around dresses up for a sex game?
The furries were neither naked, or dressed for a sex game.

Do IKEA have a responsibility to safeguard their young guests?
All the young guests will see is some fun grown-ups dressed as dogs etc.
What do you think needs safeguarding here?
Do you realise that people walking around IKEA in what would term 'normal' clothing also have sex lives? Do young guests need safeguarding from those people too?

I’ve never heard of this being done in a non sexual manner
Ah. So this is a case of "people who are different from me must be sex fiends"?

It's hard to believe that you think you know all about a group of people's sex lives, but nothing about the group itself.

picklemewalnuts · 17/01/2023 11:40

Fancying someone is not 'using someone in our sexual thoughts'.

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:40

picklemewalnuts · 17/01/2023 11:38

we all use bystanders in our sexual thoughts all the time

That ^^ is what women complain about. Men creeping about perving on women, mentally undressing them, using them as fantasy fodder.

Decent men dont do it. If you do it, you are not a decent man. It's grim.

People are not objects for you to lust over.

hilarious!

how has the human race propagated itself for millennia if no one ever found anyone sexually attractive ant thought about that?

picklemewalnuts · 17/01/2023 11:41

Can you honestly not see the difference?

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:42

picklemewalnuts · 17/01/2023 11:41

Can you honestly not see the difference?

not in any way that has any meaningful implications, no

DarkShade · 17/01/2023 11:42

picklemewalnuts · 17/01/2023 11:41

Can you honestly not see the difference?

They're conveniently ignoring the posts where many of us spelled out the difference, which tells us that they do see the difference really.

GreenManalishi · 17/01/2023 11:44

@picklemewalnuts

Men creeping about perving on women, mentally undressing them, using them as fantasy fodder.

Decent men dont do it. If you do it, you are not a decent man. It's grim.

People are not objects for you to lust over.

I think that you might have actually pickled your walnuts if you believe this. Do you have any knowledge about how human sexuality works? I mean, other than your own or possibly your very decent husband/brother/father?

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:44

lifeturnsonadime · 17/01/2023 11:39

Well I know how the ones felt who were in the group we were in.

i'm sorry but this is absurd, you know what they told you. You can't possibly know how they felt.

Lots of children who have been subjected to abusive things lie about how they feel to their abusers.

so taking a child to Pride is abuse?

thankfully no one with any authority agrees.

picklemewalnuts · 17/01/2023 11:44

Of course people find other people attractive.
They try and start a conversation, hope to find something in common, and begin a relationship/friendship of some kind- and no, not necessarily marriage and a mortgage.

They don't 'use those other people in their sexual thoughts'.

DesertIslandCondiment · 17/01/2023 11:44

All the young guests will see is some fun grown-ups dressed as dogs etc.

Rubbish. They gimps aren't cute dogs. They look weird.

sillybillyboo1 · 17/01/2023 11:45

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:26

what's the issue with that though?

we all use bystanders in our sexual thoughts all the time. we don't require their consent to do so.

obviously the IKEA incident isn't merely in their minds. but why does it bother you? it's only you that have decided to feel violated.

I never use bystanders in my sexual toughts, that doesnt sound normal.

GreenManalishi · 17/01/2023 11:46

@sillybillyboo1

So because you don't do something, it's not normal?

RichardBarrister · 17/01/2023 11:46

ArabellaScott · 17/01/2023 10:06

Actually what I'm concerned with on this thread is pointing out how some men are willing to invest so much time and energy specifically in trying to erode, and undermine boundaries - especially those relating to sexual behaviours.

It's worth noting how they will use certain predictable methods to do so - usually these include insults and labels such as the ones you've used above, as well as various logical fallacies including forced teaming, whataboutery, minimisation, and false equivalances.

Feminists on MN have spent years dealing with these patterns of behaviour, they're quite boringly predictable by now.

But instructive.

So my hope is that any lurkers on this thread who come across a person who is attempting to undermine their boundaries or make them doubt their own feelings with regards to what is sexually appropriate may be better equipped to say 'no, thank you' and feel comfortable with setting their boundaries and holding the line.

Very well said. It is amazing that some people will attempt to shame us for setting boundaries, especially around children. I wonder what their aims are?

sillybillyboo1 · 17/01/2023 11:47

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:40

hilarious!

how has the human race propagated itself for millennia if no one ever found anyone sexually attractive ant thought about that?

I have a kid and never use bystanders in sexual thoughts which tbh i rarely have. That's how

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:48

RichardBarrister · 17/01/2023 11:46

Very well said. It is amazing that some people will attempt to shame us for setting boundaries, especially around children. I wonder what their aims are?

I wonder what your aims are.

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:48

sillybillyboo1 · 17/01/2023 11:47

I have a kid and never use bystanders in sexual thoughts which tbh i rarely have. That's how

I feel sorry for you.

sillybillyboo1 · 17/01/2023 11:49

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:48

I wonder what your aims are.

Protecting women and kids something that seems to upset you.

GreenManalishi · 17/01/2023 11:50

If anyone did want to get more of an insight into human sexual response and desire, there's some great easy to access recent work by psychosexologist Dr Karen Gurney.

sillybillyboo1 · 17/01/2023 11:51

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 11:48

I feel sorry for you.

Okay? I'm happy and well adjusted. Sounds like a you problem.

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