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Furries in IKEA

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user19888891 · 16/01/2023 07:17

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Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t appropriate? Surely it’s no more appropriate to be naked in public than to walk around dresses up for a sex game? Do IKEA have a responsibility to safeguard their young guests?

I was particularly taken aback by this paragraph ;
‘Although many think it is a sexual fetish more often than not dressing up like animals is a fun escape for a community of people who enjoy expressing themselves in this way.’
is this true? I’ve never heard of this being done in a non sexual manner

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Anactor · 16/01/2023 22:14

BelperLawnmower · 16/01/2023 21:27

I think in the context of consent to sex it would have to involve positive permission to sexual physical contact or sexual nudity.

That’s a good beginning.

However, would that mean someone masturbating opposite someone on a train or a bus didn’t require consent? They’re not naked and they’re not in physical contact. Yet legally, that act would be very much a chargeable offence if the person sitting opposite was a child.

Maybe replace the ‘physical contact’ with ‘sexual activity’?

As I said, though, good beginning.

[Notice that our two friends who insist on a level of definition and articulation that’s usually only applied in law and philosophy both get very snippy and a bit personal when asked to define things for themselves. ]

Flowersandtattoos · 16/01/2023 22:17

It is not sexual and involving any active practice involving genitals. They are dressed up, that is it. People need to mind their own business.

XenoBitch · 16/01/2023 22:19

I think in the context of consent to sex it would have to involve positive permission to sexual physical contact or sexual nudity

I used to go to fetish clubs. There was a no solo masturbating rule, as there was no consent.

Balhammom · 16/01/2023 22:21

Who cares? As long as it isn’t indecent or pornographic (eg showing genitals).

Some people get turned on by stockings or high heels. Should we ban them too in case, heaven forbid, someone is wearing them as a kink / turn on?

No child seeing them would assume it is sexual.

Personally, I’d be much more worried about young girls in skimpy clothing.

HRTQueen · 16/01/2023 22:27

some people get off acting out sexual fantasies in public and and for some that is in front of children

now why would someone want to act this sexual playrole out in public where they know there will be families around and what will be the next boundary they get a kick out of pushing

lifeturnsonadime · 16/01/2023 22:28

Personally, I’d be much more worried about young girls in skimpy clothing.

Men can perform fetishes in public. Girls should know their place.

Could this be any more obvious?

Anactor · 16/01/2023 22:28

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 22:07

This has already been discussed scroll back.

Also - it’s kind of a bit self indulgent for you to expect people to answer your everlasting string of micro questions. Make your point.

It was not discussed by you.

I’m interested in whether you can articulate the definition of consent and non consent. You’ve quoted someone else; can you define it yourself?

How do you know when someone has given permission?

Moken · 16/01/2023 22:32

littleburn · 16/01/2023 08:59

Of course it's a kink - they're wearing LEATHER dog hoods, not cute disney dog cartoon masks: 'man dressed in normal clothing leads two men, both wearing leather dog masks with tails attached to their backs that appear to be wagging, through the cafe.'

Part of what they are getting off on is the exhibitionism/degradation of being in a public, family-orientated place dressed like this. Displaying kink in front of children and non-consenting adults is never ok.

Agree.

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2023 22:32

lifeturnsonadime · 16/01/2023 22:28

Personally, I’d be much more worried about young girls in skimpy clothing.

Men can perform fetishes in public. Girls should know their place.

Could this be any more obvious?

100%

GreenManalishi · 16/01/2023 22:33

I'm still waiting to find out about these blunt instrument gatekeepers that are going to be popping up.

DesertIslandCondiment · 16/01/2023 22:41

Flowersandtattoos · 16/01/2023 21:25

They aren't furries - that is pup-play, something totally different. Not that furries are not disgusting at times, but this is something else. They are fully dressed. Not really anyone's business, is it?

So you think dog gimp mask are OK in IKEA? You are as weird as them.

DesertIslandCondiment · 16/01/2023 22:42

Moken · 16/01/2023 22:32

Agree.

Me too.

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 22:43

LangClegsInSpace · 16/01/2023 21:48

I wouldn't say it's 'wrong' for you to have this weird hobby of championing men's sex rights on a female dominated parenting forum.

It's just a weird hobby and tbh it comes across as a bit creepy. I mean, championing boundary-violating dodgy fetishes is one thing, championing them to an audience of mostly mothers is a whole other level.

It's very informative though, there is that ...

That’s just speculatory ad hominem fluff.

There are plenty of women in the BDSM community. Much of this discussion applies regardless of the gender of the pup play gear wearers.

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 22:46

Anactor · 16/01/2023 22:28

It was not discussed by you.

I’m interested in whether you can articulate the definition of consent and non consent. You’ve quoted someone else; can you define it yourself?

How do you know when someone has given permission?

Because it’s already been defined adequately above. What the point in repeating the same stuff.

Your tone sounds a little bit Dom TBH.

Ludo19 · 16/01/2023 22:48

Flowersandtattoos · 16/01/2023 22:10

"A bit creepy" and 'strange' is not enough to ban people from a certain way of dressing. It becomes someone else's business when they are naked, showing genitals or indulging in public sexual acts. The entire world does not revolve around not offending the sensitive and parochial parts of the community.

Sorry I'm not sensitive nor would I class myself as parochial.

I agree that you can't ban someone for dressing (in a personal opinion) "weird" but surely this is pushing the boundaries way too far......

DesertIslandCondiment · 16/01/2023 22:48

EastLondonObserver Do you where gimp masks? I've already had a question removed though about your drug taking. I do realise you said it was it in the past and you liked it.

DesertIslandCondiment · 16/01/2023 22:49

DesertIslandCondiment · 16/01/2023 22:48

EastLondonObserver Do you where gimp masks? I've already had a question removed though about your drug taking. I do realise you said it was it in the past and you liked it.

I meant in public. I couldn't care less if you did it in private.

DesertIslandCondiment · 16/01/2023 22:50

WEAR

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 22:52

DesertIslandCondiment · 16/01/2023 22:48

EastLondonObserver Do you where gimp masks? I've already had a question removed though about your drug taking. I do realise you said it was it in the past and you liked it.

Not my scene. But I have no issues with those that do, including in IKEA, and in front of my kids, if you’re curious.

Anactor · 16/01/2023 22:54

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 22:46

Because it’s already been defined adequately above. What the point in repeating the same stuff.

Your tone sounds a little bit Dom TBH.

So you can’t define it.

DesertIslandCondiment · 16/01/2023 22:55

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 22:52

Not my scene. But I have no issues with those that do, including in IKEA, and in front of my kids, if you’re curious.

You are weird too then. That's my opinion, if you are curious. Fucking weird.

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 22:57

Anactor · 16/01/2023 22:54

So you can’t define it.

Keep up.

What consent is, whether it’s required in this circumstance, the challenges of securing it practically if it was decided it was required have all been discussed in detail hours ago. Including in multiple comments from
myself.

DesertIslandCondiment · 16/01/2023 23:00

😂

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 16/01/2023 23:01

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 22:57

Keep up.

What consent is, whether it’s required in this circumstance, the challenges of securing it practically if it was decided it was required have all been discussed in detail hours ago. Including in multiple comments from
myself.

i don't recall it. Why don't you copy and paste your previous definitions?

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