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Candace Owens

139 replies

justheretoread111 · 14/01/2023 14:34

She’s just a female version of Piers Morgan / Jeremy Clarkson. Utterly obsessed with the Sussexes (however ridiculous they may be) but for the love of God woman give it a break.

OP posts:
AmwajAnnie · 14/01/2023 18:04

Sandy Lanez...What is this Gammon??

FrippEnos · 14/01/2023 18:06

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 14/01/2023 18:02

Notice which side resorts to name-calling first.

Do you really believe that all criticism of any POC is purely racism, never any other reason?

and racist name calling at that

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 14/01/2023 18:20

phoenixrosehere · 14/01/2023 18:03

*And yes, all black people should have the same opinions apparently. Must only be democrats/labour, must support BLM, and must follow the party line.

Why don't they see that black people are actual whole humans who can see the same things as you, but come to a different conclusion?*

That goes both ways doesn’t it.? Why is it assumed that Black people who disagree with her are democrats, support BLM, etc.

Because most people that I see criticising her online are the sort that is very proud of their leftwing credentials. The type with all the usual buzzwords in the Twitter profile.

I'm sure many people of all races and political persuasions dislike her and I can understand why but I still think she should be able to talk about and support what she wants. Other people can scroll by and ignore it, the world won't end if you accidentally see someone with the wrong opinion.

MissBattleaxe · 14/01/2023 18:22

Her colour has nothing to do with her being disliked. She is a very right wing Trump apologist.

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:23

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 14/01/2023 18:02

Notice which side resorts to name-calling first.

Do you really believe that all criticism of any POC is purely racism, never any other reason?

Gammon is fairly accurate considering this poster is displaying faux outrage, because they are likely a racist themselves.

And no one has said anything of the sort (except the racists on this thread) people call out when people are racist towards Megan and Dianne Abbot. Or when unfair levels of hate or scrutiny is levied against them due to their race.

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:24

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 14/01/2023 18:20

Because most people that I see criticising her online are the sort that is very proud of their leftwing credentials. The type with all the usual buzzwords in the Twitter profile.

I'm sure many people of all races and political persuasions dislike her and I can understand why but I still think she should be able to talk about and support what she wants. Other people can scroll by and ignore it, the world won't end if you accidentally see someone with the wrong opinion.

Looks like we have another sock puppet on this thread.

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:24

FrippEnos · 14/01/2023 18:06

and racist name calling at that

Ah the old ‘being called a gammon is racist’ said only by middle aged racists

FrippEnos · 14/01/2023 18:31

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:24

Ah the old ‘being called a gammon is racist’ said only by middle aged racists

As you appear not to be able to refute this in any adult way.
I suppose that the correct response is that
It takes one to know one.

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:32

FrippEnos · 14/01/2023 18:31

As you appear not to be able to refute this in any adult way.
I suppose that the correct response is that
It takes one to know one.

What an odd and frankly childish post

The only people offended by the label ‘Gammon’ usually are those who are being accurately described as such.

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 14/01/2023 18:33

I'm not a sockpuppet. Not everyone that disagrees with you is a bot.
Newsflash: People can have different opinions and that's OK.

You're the only one that's name-calling. You can scream racist as much as you like, I don't care. You don't know anything about me at all.

The discussion was fairly civil even though people are disagreeing until you came along. So far we've had the old favourite 'gammon' and calling people old.
Any other insults you'd like to throw out there?

phoenixrosehere · 14/01/2023 18:34

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 14/01/2023 18:20

Because most people that I see criticising her online are the sort that is very proud of their leftwing credentials. The type with all the usual buzzwords in the Twitter profile.

I'm sure many people of all races and political persuasions dislike her and I can understand why but I still think she should be able to talk about and support what she wants. Other people can scroll by and ignore it, the world won't end if you accidentally see someone with the wrong opinion.

I'm sure many people of all races and political persuasions dislike her and I can understand why but I still think she should be able to talk about and support what she wants.

Who is stopping her? I don’t think it is shutting her down by saying that her views about racism and the things she says about other groups is not only wrong but damaging, ignorant, and feeds into negative stereotypes.

No one is stopping anyone from having an opinion.

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:34

Flapjackquack · 14/01/2023 17:01

Are people on here really defending a pro-trump, anti-vaxxer, conspiracy theorist as intelligent?

Unfortunately many on here are right wing bigots, as shown by the almost laughable level of faux outrage aimed at the OP.

This post unfortunately just seemed to attract them (although a few posters seem to be sock puppets)

FrippEnos · 14/01/2023 18:35

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:32

What an odd and frankly childish post

The only people offended by the label ‘Gammon’ usually are those who are being accurately described as such.

I didn't say that I was offended, just that its a racist term. please quote where I have said that.

I am just responding in kind to your lack of adult discussion.

But if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and spouts racist terms
Then its a racist duck.

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:35

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 14/01/2023 18:33

I'm not a sockpuppet. Not everyone that disagrees with you is a bot.
Newsflash: People can have different opinions and that's OK.

You're the only one that's name-calling. You can scream racist as much as you like, I don't care. You don't know anything about me at all.

The discussion was fairly civil even though people are disagreeing until you came along. So far we've had the old favourite 'gammon' and calling people old.
Any other insults you'd like to throw out there?

Weird you think a sock puppet is a bot

And it’s a bit weird how you and 2 other posters are jumping to defend eachother with very similarly written usernames.

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:36

FrippEnos · 14/01/2023 18:35

I didn't say that I was offended, just that its a racist term. please quote where I have said that.

I am just responding in kind to your lack of adult discussion.

But if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and spouts racist terms
Then its a racist duck.

Gammon is not a racist term. the only people who consider it as such as usually the very racists the term describes.

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 14/01/2023 18:40

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:35

Weird you think a sock puppet is a bot

And it’s a bit weird how you and 2 other posters are jumping to defend eachother with very similarly written usernames.

I know exactly what a sock puppet is.

How is my username like anyone else's here? Is it because I've used capital letters very much like your own username?
This is a weird line of discussion and goes into tinfoil hat territory frankly. Why does it matter to you if I'm agreeing with someone on this thread?

Anyway, keep screaming racist and trying to shut people down, I'm sure it works well for you.

FrippEnos · 14/01/2023 18:41

SandyLanez · 14/01/2023 18:36

Gammon is not a racist term. the only people who consider it as such as usually the very racists the term describes.

Even if you don't believe it is racist you are clearly using a term that is derogatory towards another poster.

But then the rules of the forum are also clear on what you should do about people that you believe are sock puppets.
I will give you a clue,
Its not hunt them on the thread.

AmwajAnnie · 14/01/2023 18:46

Reported. The language being used by a certain person on this thread is utterly vile and defamatory. Gammon indeed.

Ponoka7 · 14/01/2023 18:50

"But if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and spouts racist terms
Then its a racist duck."

It's ironic that Candice would disagree. According to her the black people getting killed/assaulted by the police isn't because of racism. She thinks that the issue is trivial. According to her black people have a victim mentality. She defended Kanye West and wore a 'white lives matter' t shirt along with him. She thinks that African Americans have it worse now than during the Jim Crow era. She failed to denounce the KKK. She'd probably agree that gammon is very much a racist term and that person needs defending. She's been shut up about Hitler, but said enough.

FrippEnos · 14/01/2023 19:15

Ponoka7 · 14/01/2023 18:50

"But if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and spouts racist terms
Then its a racist duck."

It's ironic that Candice would disagree. According to her the black people getting killed/assaulted by the police isn't because of racism. She thinks that the issue is trivial. According to her black people have a victim mentality. She defended Kanye West and wore a 'white lives matter' t shirt along with him. She thinks that African Americans have it worse now than during the Jim Crow era. She failed to denounce the KKK. She'd probably agree that gammon is very much a racist term and that person needs defending. She's been shut up about Hitler, but said enough.

She definitely has some weird views.
But that doesn't mean that she shouldn't be allowed to voice them.
I would rather people were allowed to speak and show themselves for what they are and be able to debate with them, than them be silent and people not know what they stand for.

phoenixrosehere · 14/01/2023 19:26

FrippEnos · 14/01/2023 19:15

She definitely has some weird views.
But that doesn't mean that she shouldn't be allowed to voice them.
I would rather people were allowed to speak and show themselves for what they are and be able to debate with them, than them be silent and people not know what they stand for.

Again, who is stopping her? Those who are in disagreement of her views have not said that she shouldn’t be able to
voice them.

123ROLO · 14/01/2023 19:38

I don't rate her, or peirs Morgan.

She is very hypocritical and inconsistent with her views.

She claims that some of the views of the left are harmful and abusive, yet feels andrew tate is ok as he is 'upfront' about being abusive.

She believes the black lives matter movement is wrong as black women especially need to take more responsibility about getting out of poverty, yet does not support reproductive freedom.

She tries to tear Taylor swift and other left wing singers to shreds, saying their lyrics are objectively bad, and she makes fun of their harmless yet more wacky behaviours/comments. But supports Kanye West who has actually come out with legitimate harmful comments. She supported him through his Jewish people were responsible for holocaust rant...but is offended when Sam Smith wears high heels?

Bugeyedowl · 14/01/2023 19:43

Nobody is obsessed with H&M

😂😂😂😂😂😂

ToWhitToWhoo · 14/01/2023 19:48

FrippEnos · 14/01/2023 19:15

She definitely has some weird views.
But that doesn't mean that she shouldn't be allowed to voice them.
I would rather people were allowed to speak and show themselves for what they are and be able to debate with them, than them be silent and people not know what they stand for.

No one is saying that she shouldn't be allowed to voice them. But by the same token we have the right to voice our objections to her views.

NewFoxOldTricks · 14/01/2023 19:54

justheretoread111 · 14/01/2023 15:22

I keep seeing her everywhere - TV, Twitter, TikTok etc. I’m not seeking her out to be annoyed by her opinion.

The wider point I’m making is that I think it’s dangerous to allow people a platform to incessantly target the same people again and again.

I have no idea who this person is, so i am sure she is easy to avoid