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To think Mil is batshit and if I am unreasonable going low contact?

78 replies

UsernameTalk · 14/01/2023 07:52

For family members birthdays she contacts dh to make sure he sends cards and presents. Sometimes she even tries to pick the present he should get or tell him how much he should spend. She will contact dh many times reminding him and double checking he has done it.She does this if he goes to a friends wedding as well. This is the same for sending people flowers or than you cards. We were too busy to send thank you cards for gifts within a week after the birth of our son so she sent a pack of thank you cards in the post, telling us when we must send them.

She tries to control all family events and holidays. Dh would always have to visit at Christmas time and he has to stay for a bare minimum of 2 nights. When I would go to her house for Christmas she told dh I need to talk to other family members more, and I need to make an effort on Christmas day and dress up and wear make-up. You also would get woken up at 7am and told to come to living room in your pyjamas to open presents. It was because Sil wanted people to watch her open presents mostly. Maybe I am over thinking but it felt like the whole day was controlled. For years it was always us going there for Christmas and boxing day. When we got our first house, the first time we were going to spend it with my parents her reply was "but it could be your grandmothers last Christmas". Emotional blackmail is very common if you don't do what she wants. She tried to pick out the place we have our wedding meal at. She told my DH the maximum amount he should spend on my engagement ring. Even demanding to know how much we were going to donate at my sons Christening at the church in front of everyone.

She does this for family news as well, telling him to text or call friends or family about things. Like you must call so and so to tell them about such and such. Or telling dh that he must send our wedding and christening invites / information to people by a certain time. Or that we must announce the birth on facebook. She even told DH who to send our baby scan pictures to.

It feels like she thinks she can control every aspect of his/ our lives and treats us like we are incapable children. She didn’t want us to have a baby and told DH "I hope your not trying for a baby". When DH told her I was pregnant she was almost in tears on the phone asking how will we cope. She was also very against me breastfeeding. For the first month after having dc she would ring almost every day asking if I was still breastfeeding, as well as giving unsolicited advice and pointing out the obvious. She also came into my bedroom when I was trying to breastfeed and she told me “its just so difficult, there is really no shame in giving up”. She told dh if I stop breastfeeding she will buy him a perfect prep machine telling my husband “my friend started formula feeding and they and baby were much happier”. When we have decided I will be a sahm because of the cost of travel and childcare. MIL told DH I should just work because I need a job and even tried to bribe him by saying she will pay for part of nursery as my son will be better off in nursery. One weekend we said she couldn't visit because I was really ill with an infection. Because she couldn't visit that weekend she was shouting at DH over the phone saying "I'm just trying to help", and then she didn't visit for months and just sent texts implying we were stopping her from seeing her grandchild. She also looked for any minor excuse to try to blame him or scold him for something for months.
She tries to pick out different jobs for dh and even links him jobs. She got dh's step father to tell him its nice he enjoys his job but he should be earning more to support his family (we are financially fine and have never asked them for money). The jobs she picks out don't even pay much better. They are just a lot closer to her (we might even be worse off as the house prices are more expensive in that area). When we were were moving in together and DH was buying a house dh's step father sent an email to both of us insinuating I might be a gold digger so be careful, and make sure we both do what is right. If he puts on a little weight, she tells him he needs to walk to work (5 miles away), only have 1 meal a day, asks if he is eating to much junk food, and when she visits touches his belly and makes comments.

She wants to know everything. Even asking dh what vaginal exams I was having after giving birth, my own mother would not ask or want to know that.
My son has had a language delay and behaviour issues since the age of 1. She would constantly insinuate it was our fault asking things like are we even talking to him and pointing out his behaviour is not normal. One time commenting don't you even know your own age in an almost mocking way when he could not answer. He has since been diagnosed as being autistic. Since his diagnosis we have not had an apology for behaviour. She is fact denies she said any of it and uses emotional blackmail saying things like “how can you think that of me, an I wont tell step Fil that you think that of me”. She will lie and deny a lot of the things I'm saying here or say “I’m just trying to help”.

Over the years I have went more low contact and asked dh to stop sharing so information, especially about me. Because of this I am the black sheep of the family and seen as always being unreasonable by the family.

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HaggisBurger · 14/01/2023 07:54

Yeah. Batshit and super controlling. Go v LC

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 14/01/2023 08:02

Sounds as if she hasn't accepted that her son has grown up. The only thing I agree with her on is having a job, even super part time, maybe if dh could do condensed hours and have him one day a week. Tax wise it is better, it is always easier to get a job if you have a job and it will give you more financial security and a break.

Other than that sounds as if you are doing a great job but just don't fit in with her insta lifeview.

Onefootinthegroove · 14/01/2023 08:04

Christ alive !
She is a horror.

strawberry2017 · 14/01/2023 08:05

DH needs to politely tell her to mind her own business!

Unananana · 14/01/2023 08:05

Where is your DH in all of this? I'm not seeing a lot of push back from him in defence of his wife and child?

Block her number on your own phone too.

Hoppinggreen · 14/01/2023 08:08

What does your H do when she starts her nonsense?
The only way she can have this level of control is if he lets her. I suspect he is a big part of the problem

Beachloveramy · 14/01/2023 08:11

The first half of this I was ready to say she is super anxious about what other people think and just wants things to be perfect but after reading it all, I agree she's mental. Very narcissistic behaviour with the guilt trips (my mum does this).

Loads of the same things between my Nan (DD mum) and my own mum but luckily for me not all embodied in the same person so I'm able to cope with it.

UsernameTalk · 14/01/2023 08:20

There has been alot of arguments about his mothers behaviour and taken ages to get him to agree to stop sharing infomration about me and even reduce contact by a little. He still thinks we should still visit her and stay the night rather than her visit us for the day. But she is far more controlling when on her turf and tries to control every aspect of your entire day, it is very draining being at her house. You are made to feel like a child. You are not even allowed to drink tea in living room incase you spill in on the carpet.

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UsernameTalk · 14/01/2023 08:23

Very narcissistic behaviour I was thinking she is narcissistic. She often accuses others of being narcissistic, like work colleagues and her own mum.

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WingingIt101 · 14/01/2023 08:34

Absolutely bananas

HeadNorth · 14/01/2023 08:38

You are not even allowed to drink tea in living room incase you spill in on the carpet.

That alone would be enough to stop be visiting - totally cuckoo!

Topseyt123 · 14/01/2023 08:45

I wouldn't want any contact with her. She's extremely controlling and has no sense of boundaries. She obviously has no idea what the phrase "mind your own business" means.

Your DH should not be sharing extremely personal information about you with his mother at her own whim. I would have been furious with mine if he had ever done that.

Block her on every platform. Also on your phone. I'd also be considering cutting her contact with the children too.

denishhol · 14/01/2023 08:56

Ducking hell. If I was in that position i'd have ran. I prefer it when my partners have little to do with their mothers at all. Can't stand mummy boys for one thing.

JennyForeigner · 14/01/2023 08:57

She sounds weird and exhausting but also deeply deeply anxious. We have someone in the family who does the 'just trying to help' thing. Whatever you do, she panics and tries to get you to do the exact opposite. And then gets fixated and super emotional when you point out that you had perfectly good reasons for the original decision.

Life is too short. Get yourself away from it.

HikingforScenery · 14/01/2023 09:00

He stops providing information about you and visits his parents on his own and/or with his child.
Some of the conversations, I’m surprised he’s told you about them tbh. Do you demand to know what they what about or something? Has he got two strong/overbearing women in his life?

Hiddenvoice · 14/01/2023 09:07

She sounds very controlling but she’s got away with it for so long because dh allows it! She can give her opinions on his life but it’s up to him to do as he pleases but he decides to give in and do what his mother asks to stop an argument breaking out.

He needs to learn to say no, you also need to start saying no to her demands. If she wants you over for Christmas then say with a baby you will be alternating between his family, your family and your own home as it will only be fair to both sets of grandparents. Honestly I wouldn’t have been going there for every Christmas.
if you want to be a sahm and breastfeed then great, if you chose to formula feed and be a sahm mum also great. If you choose to go back to work then great. That is yours and your husbands choice. She can give her opinions but that’s what they are, only opinions. A prep machine is a life saver but only if you’re formula
feeding. Childcare is ridiculously expensive so I think her offer of helping to pay is actually quite nice as long as it didn’t come with conditions.

You need to sit your husband down and tell him how you honestly feel again. He needs to see that he has his own family to take care of now and that he can’t bend and break to his mums wishes all of the time. He needs to start setting boundaries with her.
Do you live far away? Is that why you need to stay over all the time? If not then I’d suggest having her over for a couple of hours in between the baby nap times.

lookslikeabombhitit · 14/01/2023 09:27

Why isn't your DH backing off too? He's enabling her behaviour which makes you look like the unreasonable one rather than him pointing out that she's unhinged!

UsernameTalk · 14/01/2023 09:39

as long as it didn’t come with conditions she would have either stopped paying soon after signing dc up for nursery or used as a way to control us.

Do you live far away? about 60 miles away (1 and a half hours in car depending on traffic)

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MadeofElephantStone · 14/01/2023 09:48

YANBU, stay firm on your boundaries re your level of contact with her, you're not married to her and she has no business interfering the way she does. Though I had a little laugh when you mentioned the tea thing, it reminds me of the episodes of Hyacinth Bucket in Keeping up Appearances when her guests would be terrified of spilling tea.

CovertImage · 14/01/2023 09:50

Is she Marie Barone?

CuteBear · 14/01/2023 09:52

She sounds deranged. However, the only point I agree on is not giving up work. You could work part-time and put your ds in part-time nursery - you should take MIL’s offer of paying for nursery! Then when your ds is in Reception, you can go back to full-time work.

UsernameTalk · 14/01/2023 10:01

Also forgot to mention everyone in family is treat better than I am, this has always been the case. When Bil's gilfriend was in a car accient (nothing really serious) Mil kept asking Dh to send her a card and flowers. But when I was heavily pregnant with our second child and hospitalized for 5 days with pneumonia I got nothing, not even a card from anyone is dh's family.

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EL8888 · 14/01/2023 10:07

YANBU even reading your opening thread was draining and made me feel irritable! She sounds like a controlling nightmare. Doesn’t she have her own life?! She needs to butt out of yours. Your husband needs to step up and you need to go VLC

Bigbadfish · 14/01/2023 10:07

So when she's critisied you? Asked about your virginal exams? And bullied you, did you husband defend you without any encouragement or nagging from you?

Because if not he is the problem. You shouldn't have to teach a grown man simple rights and wrongs of life.

WineCap · 14/01/2023 10:18

Frankly, I would just cut all contact with her. Your DH can go and visit on his own if he wants.

Your children will pick up on your MIL's batshit behaviour as they get older and understand why they don't visit.