Pudding or Dessert?

[TheShellBeach]

.........or even "Sweet" or "Afters"? What do you call it?
And what do you have, if anything?

Almost everything does in the UK tbf!

I guess if I had to draw the connection, I’d go:

Pudding = upper class
Dessert = middle class
Afters = working class

I’m not sure where ‘sweet’ would rank though

Dessert is what I was bought up with.

But neither because we're broke and can barely afford food let alone the luxury or dessert at the moment.

Dessert, always.
I'm in the North East.
As a few others have previously mentioned, pudding is a particular type of dessert. Like Christmas pudding, sticky toffee pudding, treacle pudding (generally a sponge based dessert, traditionally steamed in a 'pudding tin'.)

Five or six puddings (small quantities of each)

What?

I would only go if there were five or six large quantities of each pudding.

But then again, maybe that's me.

Agreed

Dessert if I'm about to eat a fancy cheesecake at a restaurant. Pudding if I'm stuffing down a spot dick at home with some custard.

Spotted dick.

@EasterIsland she’s asked you a linguistic question and she seems genuinely if dramatically puzzled. You’ve opened a class war unimaginable anywhere else I’ve lived but this insular island (where I am now bound by love).

No British person living in the real world can continue to claim that there is any true sense of superiority behind this. So why does it persist?

Dessert for me means anything sweet after dinner

At home, with family, typically I would use the name of the item. 'Would anyone like some cheesecake?

With guest, If there were several options, id ask a group if anyone would like some dessert.

only use pudding if it's in the name Christmas pudding/rice pudding, sponge pudding etc

@EasterIsland We're all common dear, there's billions of us.

I call it 'afters', just as my mother did. A 'pudding' is a specific dish to me and not always a sweet dish either. Special places in hell reserved for people who say there is fruit or cheese for pudding and those who call it 'pud' (unless talking to a toddler).

I confess that this puzzles me.

Pudding

My husband and I say pudding. But in restaurants I ask for the dessert menu, as that’s what it’s usually called there.

It is rather embarrassing if anyone is genuinely shuddering at words like ‘toilet’ and ‘dessert’ etc. Hopefully the next generation will be less disturbed by people saying words like ‘pardon’.

Depends on what it is. Crumble, sticky toffee pud and custard etc puds. Creme brulee, tarte au citron, something with apple 5 ways dessert

Basically school dinner ones = puds fine dining = desserts

Pudding. Always. Unless it’s cheese and biscuits (why it’s not cheese and crackers- which would be a closer descriptor- I don’t know).

Slightly off topic: settee for sofa I can cope with, but never, ever, couch!

It's dessert. Unless it is an actual pudding. Then it would be called sticky date/chocolate/lemon self-saucing/whatever "pudding for dessert".

@TheShellBeach At the bottom of p6, @EasterIsland quoted someone, not by name, who explained her reasoning that a pudding is a type of dessert.

@EasterIsland did not respond logically, but took refuge in the cheap British accusation that the first poster’s preference for the term ‘dessert’ is common

@EasterIsland had previously responded on p6 that certain terms make her want to ‘lob grenades’. As an outsider and an academic this does make me wonder about certain people, and it is not the users of suspect terminology. The latter may include me, of course, because in both my home country and America where I lived before I came here puddings are a type of dessert.

I'm so sorry. I wasn't very clear.
I meant that I did not understand PP's assertions about class and the terminology used to describe the course after the entree.

I suppose not, if you're at a formal dinner.

I meant after the meat or main course.

"The reason for using the word ‘pudding’ instead of dessert is actually based on the British class system. Traditionally, pudding referred to homely and rustic desserts that were commonly eaten by the lower classes, such as spotted dick and rice pudding. Desserts were the indulgences of the upper classes and included international cuisine like chocolate mousse, soufflé and Champagne jelly."

Some article I just glanced over after googling the word pudding.

@FuzzyPuffling what’s wrong with patio? And while we’re at it - mantelpiece?

Champagne jelly sounds awful.

I agree, pudding sounds very Hyacinth Bucket.

Starter
Main
Pud
Savoury (optional)

I'm sort of faded middle class